Comments on: Ghajar residents say they are Syrian http://www.yalibnan.com/2009/12/11/ghajar-residents-say-they-are-syrian/ World News Live from Lebanon Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:43:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Louay Faour http://www.yalibnan.com/2009/12/11/ghajar-residents-say-they-are-syrian/#comment-477 Louay Faour Fri, 25 Dec 2009 19:36:05 +0000 http://www.yalibnan.com/?p=1473#comment-477 Tom: Syria, for your information, does recognize Lebanon's independence. If it didnt, no-one would have made the slightest effort to co-operate. It might wish that it stayed longer in the Beqaa valley, but thats now over and done with. I agree that it was originally Syrian, but then again, why would Syria tell Israel its Lebanon's? Tom: Syria, for your information, does recognize Lebanon’s independence. If it didnt, no-one would have made the slightest effort to co-operate. It might wish that it stayed longer in the Beqaa valley, but thats now over and done with. I agree that it was originally Syrian, but then again, why would Syria tell Israel its Lebanon’s?

]]> By: tom http://www.yalibnan.com/2009/12/11/ghajar-residents-say-they-are-syrian/#comment-471 tom Fri, 25 Dec 2009 16:56:13 +0000 http://www.yalibnan.com/?p=1473#comment-471 syria still doesn't recognize lebanon's independence, so what difference does it really make? the interests of the people of ghajar would be to not divide the town, and to remain under israeli rule, for economic and religious reasons, even if israel makes a peace treaty with lebanon or syria. as israeli citizens, how could israel just hand them over to either country? and technically, the area was syrian prior to 1967, so it must first be returned to syria, if at all, before any dispute with lebanon can be settled. syria still doesn’t recognize lebanon’s independence, so what difference does it really make?

the interests of the people of ghajar would be to not divide the town, and to remain under israeli rule, for economic and religious reasons, even if israel makes a peace treaty with lebanon or syria. as israeli citizens, how could israel just hand them over to either country? and technically, the area was syrian prior to 1967, so it must first be returned to syria, if at all, before any dispute with lebanon can be settled.

]]> By: Louay Faour http://www.yalibnan.com/2009/12/11/ghajar-residents-say-they-are-syrian/#comment-442 Louay Faour Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:49:16 +0000 http://www.yalibnan.com/?p=1473#comment-442 George: I've heard wrong then, because I heard the UN recognized it as Lebanese. But anyhow, Syria does say it's for Lebanon... And yes, we all hope another war doesn't happen again. George: I’ve heard wrong then, because I heard the UN recognized it as Lebanese. But anyhow, Syria does say it’s for Lebanon… And yes, we all hope another war doesn’t happen again.

]]> By: George http://www.yalibnan.com/2009/12/11/ghajar-residents-say-they-are-syrian/#comment-425 George Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:25:35 +0000 http://www.yalibnan.com/?p=1473#comment-425 Louay: According to the UN, the Shebaa farms are in Syria. If Syria recognizes Lebanon sovereignty on the farms, it should officially say so. Instead they say that this is an issue to be resolved after Israel returns the Golan. That's the only reason that Israel keeps them. The Shebaa farms don't have a strategic value on a potential future war which I hope never happens again. Louay: According to the UN, the Shebaa farms are in Syria. If Syria recognizes Lebanon sovereignty on the farms, it should officially say so.
Instead they say that this is an issue to be resolved after Israel returns the Golan. That’s the only reason that Israel keeps them. The Shebaa farms don’t have a strategic value on a potential future war which I hope never happens again.

]]> By: Louay Faour http://www.yalibnan.com/2009/12/11/ghajar-residents-say-they-are-syrian/#comment-364 Louay Faour Thu, 17 Dec 2009 23:53:12 +0000 http://www.yalibnan.com/?p=1473#comment-364 I am NOT trying to be steryeotypical or disisive here, but why is it that every 'Christian' person here leaves a negative comment about Hezballah, lol. But George, dont the UN recognize it as Lebanese? Because of that, Israel isnt negotiating (they want a base for any future attacks on Hezballah).. Bad yes, but Syria should engage more and say it's Lebanese, because to be honest its in the Golan Heights yet the Lebanese government asks for it.. ? I am NOT trying to be steryeotypical or disisive here, but why is it that every ‘Christian’ person here leaves a negative comment about Hezballah, lol. But George, dont the UN recognize it as Lebanese? Because of that, Israel isnt negotiating (they want a base for any future attacks on Hezballah).. Bad yes, but Syria should engage more and say it’s Lebanese, because to be honest its in the Golan Heights yet the Lebanese government asks for it.. ?

]]> By: George http://www.yalibnan.com/2009/12/11/ghajar-residents-say-they-are-syrian/#comment-356 George Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:16:30 +0000 http://www.yalibnan.com/?p=1473#comment-356 The Shebaa farms are recorded as Syrian by the UN. Lebanon should negotiate with Syria for a formal transfer of rights to the area to Lebanon. Israel will then be more than willing to give them to Lebanon within hours. No more "resistance" excuses from Hesbollah, the occupying Iranian and Syrian force in Lebanon. The Shebaa farms are recorded as Syrian by the UN.
Lebanon should negotiate with Syria for a formal transfer of rights to the area to Lebanon. Israel will then be more than willing to give them to Lebanon within hours.
No more “resistance” excuses from Hesbollah, the occupying Iranian and Syrian force in Lebanon.

]]> By: Louay Faour http://www.yalibnan.com/2009/12/11/ghajar-residents-say-they-are-syrian/#comment-329 Louay Faour Tue, 15 Dec 2009 09:46:19 +0000 http://www.yalibnan.com/?p=1473#comment-329 ASK MY MUM? The problem evolves around the occupied Golan Heights, which is Syrian, but the Shebaa farms are in it. Lebanon doesnt have much of a problem with Israel in terms of land and territory as it use to back from 1982-2000. Its Syria which is in crisis, but Israel took away the northern Ghajar again after the 2006 conflict. So if theres anyone to blame here, its Israel. ASK MY MUM? The problem evolves around the occupied Golan Heights, which is Syrian, but the Shebaa farms are in it. Lebanon doesnt have much of a problem with Israel in terms of land and territory as it use to back from 1982-2000. Its Syria which is in crisis, but Israel took away the northern Ghajar again after the 2006 conflict. So if theres anyone to blame here, its Israel.

]]> By: Louay Faour http://www.yalibnan.com/2009/12/11/ghajar-residents-say-they-are-syrian/#comment-320 Louay Faour Mon, 14 Dec 2009 09:53:35 +0000 http://www.yalibnan.com/?p=1473#comment-320 Lawrence, I couldn't agree more with you. Lawrence, I couldn’t agree more with you.

]]> By: Ask my mum http://www.yalibnan.com/2009/12/11/ghajar-residents-say-they-are-syrian/#comment-317 Ask my mum Mon, 14 Dec 2009 05:55:21 +0000 http://www.yalibnan.com/?p=1473#comment-317 To be proud of ones identity/nationality, what a shame. A line drawn in the sand separates families or maybe in this case the line had to be drawn over some stone a bit of sand and the most beautiful piece of dirt on earth unless you compare Lebanon to Australia  Who cares about villages, borders and everything else that is a problem in the middle east, aren’t you people sick of the same story over and over and over again. To be proud of ones identity/nationality, what a shame.
A line drawn in the sand separates families or maybe in this case the line had to be drawn over some stone a bit of sand and the most beautiful piece of dirt on earth unless you compare Lebanon to Australia 
Who cares about villages, borders and everything else that is a problem in the middle east, aren’t you people sick of the same story over and over and over again.

]]> By: lawrence http://www.yalibnan.com/2009/12/11/ghajar-residents-say-they-are-syrian/#comment-294 lawrence Sat, 12 Dec 2009 10:47:37 +0000 http://www.yalibnan.com/?p=1473#comment-294 As far as I am aware Louay Faour, the Shebaa Farms and Ghajar are seperate, but are both attached to the Golan. However I believe instead of retracting our claim to Ghajar, as you suggested, I believe we should claim it so long as Israel occupies Lebanon (the Chebaa Farms). You made a good point, Israel is not interested in returning the Farms, but if we cede Ghajar to them, we have just gave away a card. Lebanon is a small country, we can't afford to give away land for nothing, especially land recognised as Lebanese by the UN. Israel never does the right thing because it is right, if they are ever interested in peace with Lebanon, they will only give back the Chebaa Farms for something to benefit them. That could be Lebanon retracting it's claim to the small village of Ghajar and the adjasant feilds in the occupation, and it being recognised by the Lebanese government as land in the occupied Golan Heights, which is clearly, as you said, never going to be returned to Syria. So if we have any hope of seing our land returned, we must keep Ghajar as a negotiating card. The inhabitants of Ghajar are Syrian because they carry Syrian passports, and as you said, they feel so strongly about their identity. As far as I am aware Louay Faour, the Shebaa Farms and Ghajar are seperate, but are both attached to the Golan. However I believe instead of retracting our claim to Ghajar, as you suggested, I believe we should claim it so long as Israel occupies Lebanon (the Chebaa Farms). You made a good point, Israel is not interested in returning the Farms, but if we cede Ghajar to them, we have just gave away a card. Lebanon is a small country, we can’t afford to give away land for nothing, especially land recognised as Lebanese by the UN. Israel never does the right thing because it is right, if they are ever interested in peace with Lebanon, they will only give back the Chebaa Farms for something to benefit them. That could be Lebanon retracting it’s claim to the small village of Ghajar and the adjasant feilds in the occupation, and it being recognised by the Lebanese government as land in the occupied Golan Heights, which is clearly, as you said, never going to be returned to Syria. So if we have any hope of seing our land returned, we must keep Ghajar as a negotiating card. The inhabitants of Ghajar are Syrian because they carry Syrian passports, and as you said, they feel so strongly about their identity.

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