Saudi Arabian woman sentenced to flogging for driving

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A court in Jidda, Saudi Arabia, has sentenced a woman to 10 lashes for defying the kingdom’s ban on female drivers, Amnesty International said Tuesday.

News of the decision came just two days after King Abdullah surprised his ultraconservative nation by announcing that women would be given the right to vote, run for local office and serve on the Shura Council, the king’s advisory board.

Human rights activists at the time said the reforms did not go far enough to address the plight of women in a country where they cannot work, marry or travel abroad without the permission of a male guardian — and can’t obtain a driver’s license.

“The whole system of women’s subordination to men in Saudi Arabia needs to be dismantled,” Philip Luther, an Amnesty International regional deputy director, said in a statement. “Belatedly allowing women to vote in council elections is all well and good, but if they are still going to face being flogged for trying to exercise their right to freedom of movement, then the king’s much-trumpeted ‘reforms’ actually amount to very little.”

The Associated Press identified the woman sentenced Tuesday as Shaima Ghassaniya. Two other women are believed to be facing charges for driving, one in Jidda and one in Khobar, Amnesty said.

A number of women were arrested over the summer for participating in a campaign protesters organized via Twitter and Facebook urging those who held international driving licenses to start driving on Saudi roads. But this is the first time one of the women has been sentenced.

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41 responses to “Saudi Arabian woman sentenced to flogging for driving”

  1. FLOGGING,,,HMMMM HOW ROMANTIC
    FROM THE LOOK ON HER FACE THE LEXUS RX 330 IS NO MATCH FOR THE FLOG MOBILE IN THE REAR VIREW MIRROR…YOU GO GIRL.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      And I’m sure it won’t be something done in front of women only, by a woman sadist.
      Torture is extended by the embarrassment of it … and in the future marks left on the body.

      1. i say settle the matter with spanking 😉

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Geo !! You Naughty boy …. 😉

        2. 5TH , I CANT BE GOOD ALL THE TIME 😉

      2. Patience2 Avatar

        With a view toward elimination of any permanent marks, I’d volunteer to be the ‘state spankist’!

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          If you were the right woman, I’d lie over your knee. 😉
            Hmmm … maybe we could bring Saudis into an ‘Age of Enlightenment’ time period.

          But we are all becoming naughty by deviating to ‘kinky’ human pleasures in here … tsk, tsk.
          For women wishing for freedom, it is too serious a problem in and for their lives.
          And corporal punishment should have gone with the Dodo.

      3. Patience2 Avatar

        With a view toward elimination of any permanent marks, I’d volunteer to be the ‘state spankist’!

  2. FLOGGING,,,HMMMM HOW ROMANTIC

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      And I’m sure it won’t be something done in front of women only, by a woman sadist.
      Torture is extended by the embarrassment of it … and in the future marks left on the body.

      1. i say settle the matter with spanking 😉

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          Geo !! You Naughty boy …. 😉

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          Geo !! You Naughty boy …. 😉

        3. 5TH , I CANT BE GOOD ALL THE TIME 😉

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        With a view toward elimination of any permanent marks, I’d volunteer to be the ‘state spankist’!

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          If you were the right woman, I’d lie over your knee. 😉
            Hmmm … maybe we could bring Saudis into an ‘Age of Enlightenment’ time period.

          But we are all becoming naughty by deviating to ‘kinky’ human pleasures in here … tsk, tsk.
          For women wishing for freedom, it is too serious a problem in and for their lives.
          And corporal punishment should have gone with the Dodo.

  3. 5thDrawer Avatar

    Which makes us believe the ones ‘voted in’ on ‘Shura Council’  are to be regarded as tokens only, and probably will be women who agree with their ‘men’ about flogging  women for being ‘upstarts’. They DO have a long way to go.

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    Which makes us believe the ones ‘voted in’ on ‘Shura Council’  are to be regarded as tokens only, and probably will be women who agree with their ‘men’ about flogging  women for being ‘upstarts’. They DO have a long way to go.

  5. What a backward monarchy. Where in the Quran and Sharia law does it say woman can’t drive?

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Some kind of ‘modern’ chastity belt … 

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    What a backward monarchy. Where in the Quran and Sharia law does it say woman can’t drive?

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    What a backward monarchy. Where in the Quran and Sharia law does it say woman can’t drive?

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      Some kind of ‘modern’ chastity belt … 

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      Some kind of ‘modern’ chastity belt … 

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      Some kind of ‘modern’ chastity belt … 

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    What a backward monarchy. Where in the Quran and Sharia law does it say woman can’t drive?

  9. Reading such rules and such punishments against women in some of the Arab countries is so puzzling… How many more centuries are some of the Arab countires need before they even come close to the 19th century?

  10. Reading such rules and such punishments against women in some of the Arab countries is so puzzling… How many more centuries are some of the Arab countires need before they even come close to the 19th century?

  11. nagy_michael2 Avatar
    nagy_michael2

    I think they should spank her instead of flogging her. that outa show her not to drive again lol.

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    I think they should spank her instead of flogging her. that outa show her not to drive again lol.

  13. The problem with Islam is it is open to hundreds of Interpretations and Fatwas , there is no one rule , a woman could run the country in Pakistan like Bhutu and Malaysia, and drive a car in most Arab countries , but when it comes to Saudi Arabia which suppose to be the legislative capital of Islam ,it becomes more confusing .Same when it comes to relation with Christianity  and Jew and so on, there is several Ayat that call for violence against them, and some that calls for peace , and it up to the Sheiks to manipulate the masses using the versus as how it suit them,

    1. antar2011 Avatar

      you are right there are usually many interpretations to a single issue in islam which should be a good thing considering the diversity in culture and race of muslim community but they all have a basis to start from. this basis is shariah. so, for example if both of us are qualified to give fatwas, for example, but we come from different cultures, our interpretation of an issue most likely to be different because of the environment we both live in. both fatwas are different but both fatwas do not go outside shariah laws…it is completely acceptable and more so, it is logical. 

      something very important to note is that contrary to your statement above, Saudi Arabia is not the legistlative capital of islam…there is a shura council of all muslim prominent contemporary scholars [europe, middle east, south east asia etc] that meet on a regular basis [i assume in egypt but not sure] and target various issues. they cannot do new laws because there is no mujtahids in the muslim community and a mujtahid is a must for new laws to be made.
      what this shura council does is it tries to relate the new issues that occur to some old issues that had been already resolved by previous mujtahids and scholars of islam and apply the same fatwa to the new issue, it’s called qiyaas…it’s a complex issue and a whole scientific domain for it.

      i cannot let your comments about the ayaats in the Qura’n that deals with violance against disbelievers let go without clarification. 

      it is that ayah that deals with very specific content not a generalisation…the ayah you mentioned has been revealed in the anticipated conquest of the sanctity city of Makkah, where fighting was usually forbidden…and the permission to kill the disbelievers comes with SPECIFIC CONDITIONS…. ehnce disbelievers not poeple of the book or christians or jews.

      the ayah means NOT you must kill unbelievers in Makkah, but you CAN and you are ALLOWED to, BUT…:
      1- ONLY after the grace period is over [this grace period is the one of mutual peace agreement between the two sides]
      2- ONLY if there is no other pact is in place
      3- And ONLY if they tried to stop you getting to the Ka’bah and if they haven’t, it is forbidden to kill them.
      4- AND ONLY if they ATTACK YOU first
      even then…God is Merciful, and Forgiveness is supreme….and so essentially, BETTER IF YOU DON’T (kill them).

      some sheikhs can manipulate the masses..but so do priests,monks, and other religious leaders and it does not necessarily have to be with religious issues. it is not exclusively muslims.

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Paraphrasing an old poem …
        “I shot a rocket into the air. It fell to earth, I know not where.” 
        … and thus, with no specific person being targeted, we can drop little bombs on women and children anytime …

        But thanks Antar … a LOT of clarification is surely needed. Which is why religion shouldn’t be in politics.

  14. The problem with Islam is it is open to hundreds of Interpretations and Fatwas , there is no one rule , a woman could run the country in Pakistan like Bhutu and Malaysia, and drive a car in most Arab countries , but when it comes to Saudi Arabia which suppose to be the legislative capital of Islam ,it becomes more confusing .Same when it comes to relation with Christianity  and Jew and so on, there is several Ayat that call for violence against them, and some that calls for peace , and it up to the Sheiks to manipulate the masses using the versus as how it suit them,

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      you are right there are usually many interpretations to a single issue in islam which should be a good thing considering the diversity in culture and race of muslim community but they all have a basis to start from. this basis is shariah. so, for example if both of us are qualified to give fatwas, for example, but we come from different cultures, our interpretation of an issue most likely to be different because of the environment we both live in. both fatwas are different but both fatwas do not go outside shariah laws…it is completely acceptable and more so, it is logical. 

      something very important to note is that contrary to your statement above, Saudi Arabia is not the legistlative capital of islam…there is a shura council of all muslim prominent contemporary scholars [europe, middle east, south east asia etc] that meet on a regular basis [i assume in egypt but not sure] and target various issues. they cannot do new laws because there is no mujtahids in the muslim community and a mujtahid is a must for new laws to be made.
      what this shura council does is it tries to relate the new issues that occur to some old issues that had been already resolved by previous mujtahids and scholars of islam and apply the same fatwa to the new issue, it’s called qiyaas…it’s a complex issue and a whole scientific domain for it.

      i cannot let your comments about the ayaats in the Qura’n that deals with violance against disbelievers let go without clarification. 

      it is that ayah that deals with very specific content not a generalisation…the ayah you mentioned has been revealed in the anticipated conquest of the sanctity city of Makkah, where fighting was usually forbidden…and the permission to kill the disbelievers comes with SPECIFIC CONDITIONS…. ehnce disbelievers not poeple of the book or christians or jews.

      the ayah means NOT you must kill unbelievers in Makkah, but you CAN and you are ALLOWED to, BUT…:
      1- ONLY after the grace period is over [this grace period is the one of mutual peace agreement between the two sides]
      2- ONLY if there is no other pact is in place
      3- And ONLY if they tried to stop you getting to the Ka’bah and if they haven’t, it is forbidden to kill them.
      4- AND ONLY if they ATTACK YOU firsteven then…God is Merciful, and Forgiveness is supreme….and so essentially, BETTER IF YOU DON’T (kill them).

      some sheikhs can manipulate the masses..but so do priests,monks, and other religious leaders and it does not necessarily have to be with religious issues. it is not exclusively muslims.

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        Paraphrasing an old poem …
        “I shot a rocket into the air. It fell to earth, I know not where.” 
        … and thus, with no specific person being targeted, we can drop little bombs on women and children anytime …

  15. antar2011 Avatar

    the king has overruled the sentence lashing for her anyway.

    so things are good for her now.

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Perhaps the harem showed him the writing on the wall … 😉

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    the king has overruled the sentence lashing for her anyway.

    so things are good for her now.

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      Perhaps the harem showed him the writing on the wall … 😉

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    the king has overruled the sentence lashing for her anyway.

    so things are good for her now.

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