Syrian rebels blame ‘heinous’ executions on ‘extremists’

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A Syrian rebel brigade blamed “extremists” for a grisly massacre now gone viral on the Internet, and it vowed to punish the perpetrators.

Hossam al Sarmani, a spokesman for the Free Syrian Army’s Daoud Brigade in northern Syria, said rogue revolutionaries carried out the killings in Idlib province.

“This execution did take place, and this is the heinous truth,” al Sarmani told CNN on Friday. “We will find them, capture them and hold them in a prison until they can by tried by international law or the new Syrian law, God willing.”

The gruesome video surfaced Thursday on the Internet.

In it, an armed group of angry men appear to force a smaller group of frightened unarmed men to the ground. They yell at them and kick them, and open fire with automatic rifles until their bodies go lifeless.

Before carrying out the execution, the gunmen yell at them: “You dogs of Assad!” The poster of the video said the footage was taped in the city of Saraqeb after rebels overran a government outpost.

The opposition Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said “rebel fighters” rounded up and summarily executed more than eight soldiers.” It said the rebels also “physically abused the victims before the massacre, kicking them repeatedly.”

But al Sarmani — whose Daoud Brigade is one unit in 6,000-member coalition in the Idlib countryside called the Sham Falcons — said the attackers have no connection to the FSA rebels.

He said that rebels did indeed fight government soldiers in a raid at a military outpost. In that fighting, rebels killed soldiers, and six to eight troops surrendered.

He said the rebels advanced to another part of the outpost during clashes and left the surrendered soldiers behind. The “extremists” emerged, apparently from Saraqeb and nearby Trambee.

These rogue gunmen took the opportunity to assault the unarmed prisoners, al Sarmani said.

“At this point, a strange group of about 20 men entered among us. We did not know them, but we recognized they were from Saraqeb and the nearby village of Trambee. They were revolutionaries, too, but they were extremists.”

He said the “extremists” fled and government warplanes shelled the area, forcing the rebels to retreat and leave the bodies behind. The Observatory said rebels had killed at least 28 government soldiers in fighting in the city Thursday.

On Friday, Saraqeb fell into rebel hands, after the last government checkpoint had been vanquished, the Observatory said. Holding the city would allow opposition fighters to control the main highway to Aleppo, which runs through the city.

“You can’t imagine how saddened we are by this crime,” al Sarmani said of the massacre.

“We were happy with liberating this outpost. This is not the behavior of Daoud Brigade, and we will always be saddened and disturbed by this story. But we will not stay with our hands tied behind our back. We will find these men and they will face justice,” he said.

Mahmoud Bakur, an activist in Saraqeb, condemned the actions and also said they were conducted by extremists.

“We aim to be better than the authoritarian regime that plants these actions among the rebels,” he said.

The gruesome scenes drew condemnation from Amnesty International, which said the video showed “a potential war crime in progress.”

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Amnesty acknowledged being uncertain who the gunmen are and said no one had claimed responsibility. It is investigating the case and admonished all sides “to refrain from torturing, ill-treating or killing their prisoners.”

The United Nations said the video is hard to “verify immediately” and must be “examined carefully.” But its human rights watchdog said it looks “like a war crime. Another one.”

“The allegations are that these were soldiers who were no longer combatants. Unfortunately this could be the latest in a string of documented summary executions by opposition factions as well as by government forces and groups affiliated with them, such as the Shabiha,” a spokesman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Human Rights said.

“We were willing to do anything that brings fairness, equality, and freedom. We will work with UN or anyone else to achieve this goal. Without receiving instruction from anyone we have already begun our own investigation.”

Rafif Jouejati, a spokeswoman for the opposition Local Coordination Committees of Syria, said “crimes are crimes” and her group doesn’t condone “any crimes against humanity.”

“However, if this crime was committed by the armed opposition, we still cannot compare it to the Assad regime’s daily and continuous bombardment of civilian areas; rampant detention and torture of activists, humanitarian relief workers, and doctors; and systematic terrorism of all communities across the country.”

Government aircraft bombarded Damascus and its Idlib and Homs suburbs Friday, the LCC said.

Homs government officials received a delegation from the International Committee for the Red Cross, which is attempting to negotiate with both warring parties over the safe delivery of aid to the hardest-hit areas of the historic center of town.

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The Red Cross and the U.N. refugee agency have recently reported accomplishing inroads in aid delivery despite the dangers of battle and unexploded ordnance.

“We need to make sure both sides stop shooting before we move around,” ICRC spokesman Alexis Heeb said from Geneva, Switzerland.

Government and opposition fighters clashed on the ground in Homs on Friday — as well as in Damascus, Aleppo, Deir Ezzor and Daraa, according to opposition groups.

Fighting has killed 133 people so far Friday, the LCC said. Forty-two of those deaths occurred in Damascus and its suburbs.

Death tolls reported by Syria’s opposition usually mount exponentially in the course of a day. At least 149 died Thursday, 121 on Wednesday and 163 on Tuesday, the LCC said.

CNN cannot independently confirm government or opposition reports out of Syria, as the government has restricted access by journalists.

Photo: Buildings lie destroyed by what activists say were missiles fired by a Syrian Air Force fighter jet loyal to Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, in Erbeen, near Damascus on Thursday Nov 1, 2012.

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  1. breakthemould Avatar
    breakthemould

    Were some of them uniformed?

  2. breakthemould Avatar
    breakthemould

    Were some of them uniformed?

  3. 5thDrawer Avatar

    “looks “like a war crime. Another one.”
    And that sad ‘another one’ is a reflection of everything Assad began when he refused to listen to what people wanted. He created the whole mess, and has opened the door to the ideologues with the same mentality.

    1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      i am answering your silliness, though i willl be very brief and skip many of the poetic part, because i do not believe there are stupid ideas but stupid people; geagea is the M14 candidate for next elections to become president; from criminal to president; i would prefer an idiot to a criminal. Second, concerning condoms, you missed the point and you answered something that most would agree on: prevention of diseases yet prevention does not mean a guarantee you wont get the disease by using them. By the use of condoms i meant salafism and harirism are infectious diseases and need condom protection, near miss: capito!!! as far as hariri father and son are concerned, maybe you were one of those who profited from his salafi kingdom, a cousin of mine did, they both failed and yet had their chances to prove themselves: min jarrab al moujarrab bi koun 3a’lo moukharrab; hariri is dead and needs to be buried: by hariri i mean father and son; open your eyes very well: the shia crescent has been created, still needs some refinement in syria and iran; now they are building the sunna crescent: hariri’s role is over; imam assir and other more eloquent and more genuinely representing this philosophy are there; and of course our 5thmoufti

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Oh I got your attempted point well enough on the condoms … which was another of your silly uses of a word unrelated to anything real.

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          i dont think you did otherwise you would have condomed your pen and reduced the nonsense

    2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      you may need a pair of glasses; it is just “it looks”; come on, if that is not a war crime, then i wonder what in secular terms is a war crime!!! and on top now you are transgressing to assad; omg, you should be a professional propagandist; you are losing your talents on this desert blog

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Obviously you don’t understand what ” quotes ” mean.
        The quotes were something something in the article which someone else said. And I only commented on one part of that, the sad feeling of inevitability in the words ‘Another one’.
        How you can bend it to assume all manner of things I said nothing about, such as whether or not I am a propagandist, immoral, radical, brilliant, blind, professional, using wikipedia, etc, etc, – by my statement – is beyond me. You assume all manner of things about people – and have not understood what was said – and join together a pile of adjectives which relate to nothing of the thought which was written down, simply to attack the person and not the thought.
        Who indeed is the propagandist?

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          let me make your reply more eloquent & more logical: “obviously i do not have the same definition of quote as you do since i do not use wikipedia”. How does that suit you? not having the same understanding of a word like you do does not mean i do not understand it except in dictatorships

        2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          regardless of whether you were quoting or not, your blog was installing doubts in the mind of the reader concerning the nature of that manslaughter; your blog needed clear indignation & precise non umbiguous denomination; it was a kind of kleinefelters syndome with umbiguous genitalia; omission is a lie

      2.  Do you have a life other than on this blog? You are on here 24/7. Are you paid to “blog” (yes quotation marks, the exact same ones 5th used and you didn’t understand)?

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          no, i  am a pensionned shiite and as part time i am 5th’s hubby; we are distributing roles to keep the blog active; i have 6 other wives

    3. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      when i see the moral bankrupcy of so called radical seculars, which you are brilliantly exhibiting, i say to myself: better to believe in a God, even if virtual, than to be as blind, irrational and immoral as radical seculars; again i do distinguish between the occasional secular and the radical one, which is as fanatic, if not more, than the salafis, hence the alliance and the philosophical symbiosis

      1. wargame1 Avatar

        The moral bankrupcy happened with you when you ignore the daily aerial bomberedment by these sick secular regime. These are the Shaitans representatives and when they kill civilians then thats ok to you; Islam is peace and there is no radical Islam rather there is radical secularist who worship Shaitan. 

  4. 5thDrawer Avatar

    “looks “like a war crime. Another one.”
    And that sad ‘another one’ is a reflection of everything Assad began when he refused to listen to what people wanted. He created the whole mess, and has opened the door to the ideologues with the same mentality.

    1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      i am answering your silliness, though i willl be very brief and skip many of the poetic part, because i do not believe there are stupid ideas but stupid people; geagea is the M14 candidate for next elections to become president; from criminal to president; i would prefer an idiot to a criminal. Second, concerning condoms, you missed the point and you answered something that most would agree on: prevention of diseases yet prevention does not mean a guarantee you wont get the disease by using them. By the use of condoms i meant salafism and harirism are infectious diseases and need condom protection, near miss: capito!!! as far as hariri father and son are concerned, maybe you were one of those who profited from his salafi kingdom, a cousin of mine did, they both failed and yet had their chances to prove themselves: min jarrab al moujarrab bi koun 3a’lo moukharrab; hariri is dead and needs to be buried: by hariri i mean father and son; open your eyes very well: the shia crescent has been created, still needs some refinement in syria and iran; now they are building the sunna crescent: hariri’s role is over; imam assir and other more eloquent and more genuinely representing this philosophy are there; and of course our 5thmoufti

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Oh I got your attempted point well enough on the condoms … which was another of your silly uses of a word unrelated to anything real.

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          i dont think you did otherwise you would have condomed your pen and reduced the nonsense

    2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      you may need a pair of glasses; it is just “it looks”; come on, if that is not a war crime, then i wonder what in secular terms is a war crime!!! and on top now you are transgressing to assad; omg, you should be a professional propagandist; you are losing your talents on this desert blog

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Obviously you don’t understand what ” quotes ” mean.

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          let me make your reply more eloquent & more logical: “obviously i do not have the same definition of quote as you do since i do not use wikipedia”. How does that suit you? not having the same understanding of a word like you do does not mean i do not understand it except in dictatorships

        2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          regardless of whether you were quoting or not, your blog was installing doubts in the mind of the reader concerning the nature of that manslaughter; your blog needed clear indignation & precise non umbiguous denomination; it was a kind of kleinefelters syndome with umbiguous genitalia; omission is a lie

      2.  Do you have a life other than on this blog? You are on here 24/7. Are you paid to “blog” (yes quotation marks, the exact same ones 5th used and you didn’t understand)?

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          no, i  am a pensionned shiite and as part time i am 5th’s hubby; we are distributing roles to keep the blog active

    3. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      when i see the moral bankrupcy of so called radical seculars, which you are brilliantly exhibiting, i say to myself: better to believe in a God, even if virtual, than to be as blind, irrational and immoral as radical seculars; again i do distinguish between the occasional secular and the radical one, which is as fanatic, if not more, than the salafis, hence the alliance and the philosophical symbiosis

      1. wargame1 Avatar

        The moral bankrupcy happened with you when you ignore the daily aerial bomberedment by these sick secular regime. These are the Shaitans representatives and when they kill civilians then thats ok to you; Islam is peace and there is no radical Islam rather there is radical secularist who worship Shaitan. 

  5. Executing prisoners of war is necessary if it hinders the progress of the uprising. The rebels have not the facilities to keep dangerous enemies in their midst. The hypocrites who call this a war crime are the same people who stood in silent inaction while The regimes forces continue to commit genocide. The rebels have nothing to answer, but the hypocrites have shame pitched over them. Allahu Akbar.

    1. Constantin7 Avatar
      Constantin7

      Yeah finish it as usual with “Alahu Akbar”, insert God in every ugly or not ugly thing you do or say. Alahu akbar indeed on Mohammad and all his followers. Your God promotes revenge and killing and my God promotes Love and Peace, and for this reason wherever there are muslims in the world there will always be random killing, wars, suicide bombers, tyrants like Assad/Saddam/Gadhafi, and rebels like these criminals who  kill unarmed prisoners. Until the CROSS and Jesus Christ reigns, the muslim world will remain in constant turmoil of unrest and war. After all this is what your prophet promoted: Imposing himself by sword and eliminating all opposition, and Assad and all these tyrants are implementing what they learnt from Islam and its prophet.

      1. You must be defending the supporters of genocide. Is this how all your fellow Christians feel. The cross will reign.The usual hypocritical “he died fr our sins argument, . Wake up to yourself. The genocidal murderers deserve death, and you are an islamaphobe who pretends to preach love.. That is why the christian voice is insignificant. You do not belive in justice or the triumph of the right. Youhave no argument. Go and and live in your sin cities with your alcohol and porn, and I’ll see you on judgement day.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          And that assumes there is a God passing judgement. You might be better off not pretending to be one.

        2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          yesss indeed the flea syrian rebels were all christians and killed their prisoners coldly after torturing them and putting a cross on them

        3. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          Let’s compare Jesus and Mohammad:
          Jesus was born by a virgin in a holy family and was raised in a family that believed in the only God, while Mohammad was born and raised in an atheist family that did not know God.
          Jesus lived without sin and observed the ten commandments given by God to Moses (among them “Don’t Kill and Don’t steal and Don’t envy your neighbor’s wife”, Mohammad lived in sin all his life and did not observe any of God’s commandments (killed, stole, fornicated with as many women as he allowed himself).
          Jesus gave his life so others can believe in him, Mohammad took the lives of others to force them to believe in him.
          Jesus’ coming was announced in the old testament, but Mohammad’s coming was announced by nobody.
          Jesus healed the sick and gave life to the dead, Mohammad took the life out of the living.
          Every single day miracles happen all over the world in the name of Jesus Christ, did Mohammad ever do any miracle to heal anybody ? Pray for Jesus once from your heart and see how he will answer you, pray to Mohammad and his God for eternity and nobody will answer you.

          What do you need more of proof, can’ t you SEE ? Or you have eyes but cannot see, you have ears but cannot listen.

          And yes Jesus Christ is our Lord, our God (who came to earth to save humanity from the original sin) and our Savior. Poor those who do not believe in him  because they will never reach our father, because he himself said: I AM the WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.

          The followers of Mohammad asked him once: Ya rassoul allah are you going to heaven after your death ? and he answered them: I am a human like you and Allahu Aalam.

          A criminal who was crucified near Jesus askedJesus to pray for him when he goes to heaven, because he knew that he was a criminal and getting the right punishment for his crimes, but because he reprented, Jesus had mercy on him and told him: TODAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE.

          You still doubt that Jesus Christ is LORD ? I only wish that you know him and you know his love and peace before you pass away and leave this life so that you can be saved from sin and the devil.

        4. patriotss Avatar

          you sound like jewish extremist 

        5. whats the difference? you guys are hypocrites, you drink and watch porn like no tomorrow, and then you go talk like your angels. My muslim friends drink more than me, go to the skybar in beirut and see all the muslims drinking.

        6. beiruti no reply button on your comment but I just want to wish you and yours well and salute you  for being a straight shooter and reminding me of  a time when this blog shared different views and experiences  without  being rude and inflamitory as it has become lately.

        7. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          Beiruti, Good to see you here again. I second what my good friend,geo said below.

        8. Hannibal Avatar

          I always asked myself… How come cigarettes kill more. much more , people than alcohol and yet Islam forbids alcohol and allows smoking. The obvious answer is that cigarettes and smoking were practiced by the native Americans and the West had yet to discover the Americas and bring that smoking disease to the rest of the world.
          My second observation, and feel free to correct me, is that the Quran mentions only the alcohol made with grapes, al-5amra, how on Earth did that extrapolate to like Arak which is not from the vine or beer which is made of barley.
          Lastly, study after study shows that the resveratrol and other proanthocyanidins in wine have health benefits and that wine prolongs life by lengthening the telomeres in your cells. So why does the Quran prohibits something good for you and allows smoking, a deadly habit? May be Allah wants to limit the population of Muslims because he anticipated a population explosion since they love sex and they reproduce like rabbits.
          Enlighten me please…

      2. wargame1 Avatar

        It is the Syrian regime who are committing the war crime. Jesus(peace e upon him) is a Muslim and he never died on the cross. He will descend in Syria and according to some analysis it is likely in 2020-22. Do not support war crimes. We have seen many prisoners of war already captured by the Syrian Mujaheddin; They were treated good.One video like this which is still subject to investigation is already storming around the world …war crime war crime…

        The video has some description where you learn that these shabiha were killing civilians. So they dont even fall in the category of the prisoners of war. The prisoners of war are those Armed solders who are fighting the armed enemy combatant. But according to the statement of the Syrian mujaheddin they were convicted murders of woman and children.

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          you salafis are the biggest kouffars in God: we even have to teach you your own koran: go read sourat mariam 33 and come back to tell us if issa (what you erroneously believe is Jesus), died and resurrected on the third day

        2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          please keep your peas or your piece (anything but peace, you are allergic to peace) to you; Jesus does not need your peace and certainly dont try to insult Jesus by attributing these things to Him

        3. Hannibal Avatar

          How is Jesus gonna descend in Syria? With a parachute? You see Santa descends on Xmas every year and brings gifts and toys and good vibes to all… Islam descends on nations and bring us Bin Ladin and wars, mayhem, beheadings and killing of innocent children with car bombs and suicidal nitwits. BTW the virgins waiting for you in heavens are all Christian nuns… They never take their clothes off but they will whip your collective asses for pleasure.

      3. wargame1 Avatar

        To all of you CHRISTIANS: JESUS Will Say to You “I never Knew You! DEPART FROM ME!” Jesus said: “Not everyone who says to Me,’Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day,’Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ “And then I will declare to them,’I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'[Matt. 7:21-23].

        Let us analyze the verse of the Bible

        Jesus (peace be upon him) will not say to Muslims “I never Knew You!” because if you read that passage, Jesus (PBUH) will say those harsh words to those people who call him “LORD, LORD”..Muslims never call Jesus “Lord”! Then who is calling Jesus “LORD”!!!? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!You..CHRISTIANS ..are the only people who call Jesus “LORD”.

        Muslims do not call Jesus LORD, but only Christians do!
        Muslims do not cast out demons in Jesus name, but only Christians do!
        Muslims do not perform miracles in Jesus name, but Christians do!
        Muslims obey the Laws of God and practice them in their life, but Christians do not!

        So, in the Day of Judgment, Jesus (PBUH) will say to you -Christians-: ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS’

        We Muslims say “In the name of Allah the most gracious the Most Merciful” Allah Hu Akhbar !!

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          obviously you know very little about christianity and about islam too; maybe Jesus may not recognise the christians (we never said we are angels yet the teaching of christianity unlike the teaching of salafism does not preach violence but peace and love of even your enemy) but i am sure aysha will recognise you, salafi criminals

        2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          i have a feeling, because you are bankrupt morally and ideologically, you want to convert this into a religious war on this blog; my advice to you is: go and study your islam first, because, if you want, we can have a debate you and i on your koran, and i can prove to you that you know yourself very little about your own belief

        3. Hannibal Avatar

          Let us revisit this with actions on this Earth… How come wherever you find Christianity as the dominant religion you find a civil society and wherever Islam rules the country is as filthy as shit? Answer that then we move on to the second level of argument…

      4. PeaceintheME Avatar
        PeaceintheME

        Constantin, not trying to have a go at you or your religion my friend as I believe most religions in their own right are a beautiful thing. However you claim that Jesus is the lord. Isn’t the Lord God and if so that means you believe that Jesus was above God. Or does it mean that Jesus was
        equal to God. Why I ask this is because doesn’t Jesus himself refer to God as his Lord.

        I look forward to your response my friend.

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          It is really simple… God, Jesus (God’s manifestation on Earth), and the Holly spirit are ONE!!! If you are judged by Jesus you are judged by God. Jesus and God are not two entities… When you say that this trinity is not one you are then blaspheming. Look at it this way. God is like an ice cube, Jesus is water, and the Holly Spirit is vapor, three forms of the same substance… really, REALLY simple… 

        2. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          Hi PeaceintheME,

          For Christians, Jesus Christ is the only Son of God, not son in the sense of “God got married and had a son”, No. In the sense that all of us humans are the sons of God and God is our father, because when God created Man, he created Man at HIS own image (on God’s own image – Aala sourat al-llah). However, God had his perfect image with him already and was the perfect reflection of GOD, which is Jesus Christ, the only Son of God without Sin.  And the perfect reflection of GOD is GOD. The perfect reflection of God came to earth to save humanity. Yes when he was within humans he acted liked humans too and prayed for the creator too because it was the perfect human praying for the perfect GOD and he wanted to show humans how to pray and behave to be closer to GOD. Therefore, we believe that the perfect human is one with GOD. For this we pray in the name of the Father, the Son, and the wholly Spirit. The only son of God, the perfect human, who is the reflexion of God appeared in the flesh and gave himself as the offering to the creator in order to reconcile the sinner humans with their perfect creator GOD.

          Muslims on Eid Al Adha sacrifice a sheep to offer to God and reconcile with him. The lamb of God is Jesus Christ who is the only one who can reconcile humans with their creator if they believe in him and ask for his mercy.

          So Jesus Christ is not above God, Jesus Christ is equal to God because he is the reflexion of God in the human body, and since he is the only reflexion of God in human form then he is the only Son of God. In the bible, Jesus calls himself “the Son of Man”. If he was just a regular human, he would not call himself the Son of Man, only God would call himself the “Son of Man”, and Man would call him the “Son of God”.

          In Islam, muslims say that Issa is the spirit of God (Rouh allah), but the spirit of God is GOD.

          In Islam, all day long muslims say: “Rassoul Mohammad salla allah aalayhi wa aala ahlihi wa sahbihi wa sallam” Meaning God is going to pray on Mohammad, his family and his friends and greet them”.  Don’t muslims put Mohammad above God in this saying ? God who created Mohammad and everything living and not living in this wolrd is going to pray upon Mohammad ? Do muslims realize what they are saying or they are in complete denial ?  

          I hope I was clear in my explanation. If not please read the New Testament, it is very powerful spiritually and it could help you understand. In any case, your questions are enough to tell me that you are seeking the TRUTH. Keep on your journey my friend. Who seeks finds. As Jesus said knock on my door and I will open it for you.

          Peace for you PeaceintheME !!!

    2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      you need to be referred to den haag; even if what you are saying is just stupid words, in europe you go to jail for this; i am reporting you to europol

      1. If europol have the nerv to look me in the eye and tell me I’m wrong , il will tell them to stick their morals where the sun don’t shine. I do not cow down to scumbag oppressors little man.

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          strong from far but far from strong; min 3antarak? eh 3antaret wa ma hada radneh

    3. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      soon they will have to answer den haag, and you, if you come to europe, got to spend some time fi bayt khaltak

      1. wargame1 Avatar

        There are hundreds of videos of captured Shabiha and they are treated good. But we also have seen some execution of known criminals after the investigation. There are Iranian Majoosis who were executed too after being proved that they were engaged in killing civilians. Many more such incident is yet to come. The Majoosis Iranian have no business to meddle with this conflict so stay away. According to the international law if these execution is war crime then they will be punished but you need to prove it. 

        The whole assad war is illegal , unjust and war crime and the Syrian mujaheddin are not crying to den-hag rather they are dealing with the criminal.If you brand something as war crime doesnt make it a war crime. The international authority is complicit with this war crime and in the future some of those will face justice too for turning a blind eye against the genocide committed by the Syrian regime Iranian Majoosis and Hezbushaitan. And to bring these bastards in to justice you need righteous people.

        1. PeaceintheME Avatar
          PeaceintheME

          Wargame, You say that Iran and Hezbollah have no business meddling in this war. So how about all these animals that are coming from Iraq, Turkey, Afghanistan, Yemen, and list goes on and on. Do they have a right. You see you are blinded by your hate for all other religions that are not Salifi. As long as you have this hatred in your heart, You will never know peace. Keep saying Allah Akbar kill these evil infidels who are not Salifi, As I promise you the devil him self will greet you at the doors of hell.  

    4. PeaceintheME Avatar
      PeaceintheME

      Your blog is joke; any execution of any human under any circumstances is wrong whether it be The Syrian regime or the Terrorist. I don’t blame you however for thinking the way you do. Your fake Salifi religion
      teachers you to scream Allah Akbar and kill innocent people. How the F@@K can you associate Allah with what these FSA animals are doing. Furthermore, if the regime kills innocent people, you call it
      genocide. But if these animals kill innocent people, it’s ok because of a fatwa given by one of your fake Sheiks.

      If this is what’s really in your heart then you are no better than these FSA animals. No man deserves to take another man’s life and no true religion preachers it either. Especially Islam which is what the
      FSA terrorist are not.

      1.  ““You can’t imagine how saddened we are by this crime,” al Sarmani said of the massacre.
        “We were happy with liberating this outpost. This is not the behavior
        of Daoud Brigade, and we will always be saddened and disturbed by this
        story. But we will not stay with our hands tied behind our back. We will
        find these men and they will face justice,” he said.”

        This must’ve slipped past your biased eyesight. Obviously the FSA didn’t commit this crime and they are doing everything they can, considering the circumstances, to find and prosecute the perpetrators. 
        Your hatred for anything “salafi” is quiet obvious but that doesn’t justify calling freedom fighters “animals”… Hopefully you and your family never have to experience what these poor Syrians are experiencing at the hands of a cold blooded regime, not to mention their supporters.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Too many ‘semi-sects’ with their own ‘glorious leaders’ making up rules as they go along.

        2. PeaceintheME Avatar
          PeaceintheME

          Oh so because Al Sarmani said it wasn’t the FSA who committed this crime, we are just supposed to believe him. So it would be fair to say you believe the Syrian regime when they say they are not committing genocide. Or is it really you my friend who is biased. And how dare you call them freedom fighters. More like mercenaries being paid by we all know who to come and destroy a once beautiful country. What is this war really about. Let me guess freedom. What have all these animals that are coming from all these other countries have to do with the freedom of the Syrian people.

          Further, how about the majority who support the govenment, do they have a say. You see like most on this blog, you are brainwashed by the main stream media and only can do what you are told. Keep telling yourself that the FSA are freedom fighters. Wont change a thing, These ANIMALS are being destroyed by the hundreds everyday. The Syrian regime has won the war. Now they are cleaning up the scaps.

          One more thing, I thankyou for not wishing death upon me and my family, Something other bloggers on this site have wished in the past.

      2.  “blah blah blah As I promise you the devil him self will greet you at the doors of hell.”

        LMFAO now you are acting as if you are god and promising people hellfire. wow
        Is this a new shia sect you have created?

        1. PeaceintheME Avatar
          PeaceintheME

          What can I say Preview. If that’s how you understood my blog, well it only tells me how smart you really are.

  6. Executing prisoners of war is necessary if it hinders the progress of the uprising. The rebels have not the facilities to keep dangerous enemies in their midst. The hypocrites who call this a war crime are the same people who stood in silent inaction while The regimes forces continue to commit genocide. The rebels have nothing to answer, but the hypocrites have shame pitched over them. Allahu Akbar.

    1. Constantin7 Avatar
      Constantin7

      Yeah finish it as usual with “Alahu Akbar”, insert God in every ugly or not ugly thing you do or say. Alahu akbar indeed on Mohammad and all his followers. Your God promotes revenge and killing and my God promotes Love and Peace, and for this reason wherever there are muslims in the world there will always be random killing, wars, suicide bombers, tyrants like Assad/Saddam/Gadhafi, and rebels like these criminals who  kill unarmed prisoners. Until the CROSS and Jesus Christ reigns, the muslim world will remain in constant turmoil of unrest and war. After all this is what your prophet promoted: Imposing himself by sword and eliminating all opposition, and Assad and all these tyrants are implementing what they learnt from Islam and its prophet.

      1. You must be defending the supporters of genocide. Is this how all your fellow Christians feel. The cross will reign.The usual hypocritical “he died fr our sins argument, . Wake up to yourself. The genocidal murderers deserve death, and you are an islamaphobe who pretends to preach love.. That is why the christian voice is insignificant. You do not belive in justice or the triumph of the right. Youhave no argument. Go and and live in your sin cities with your alcohol and porn, and I’ll see you on judgement day.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          And that assumes there is a God passing judgement. You might be better off not pretending to be one.

        2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          yesss indeed the flea syrian rebels were all christians and killed their prisoners coldly after torturing them and putting a cross on them

        3. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          Let’s compare Jesus and Mohammad:
          Jesus was born by a virgin in a holy family and was raised in a family that believed in the only God, while Mohammad was born and raised in an atheist family that did not know God.
          Jesus lived without sin and observed the ten commandments given by God to Moses (among them “Don’t Kill and Don’t steal and Don’t envy your neighbor’s wife”, Mohammad lived in sin all his life and did not observe any of God’s commandments (killed, stole, fornicated with as many women as he allowed himself).
          Jesus gave his life so others can believe in him, Mohammad took the lives of others to force them to believe in him.
          Jesus’ coming was announced in the old testament, but Mohammad’s coming was announced by nobody.
          Jesus healed the sick and gave life to the dead, Mohammad took the life out of the living.
          Every single day miracles happen all over the world in the name of Jesus Christ, did Mohammad ever do any miracle to heal anybody ? Pray for Jesus once from your heart and see how he will answer you, pray to Mohammad and his God for eternity and nobody will answer you.

          What do you need more of proof, can’ t you SEE ? Or you have eyes but cannot see, you have ears but cannot listen.

          And yes Jesus Christ is our Lord, our God (who came to earth to save humanity from the original sin) and our Savior. Poor those who do not believe in him  because they will never reach our father, because he himself said: I AM the WAY, THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE.

          The followers of Mohammad asked him once: Ya rassoul allah are you going to heaven after your death ? and he answered them: I am a human like you and Allahu Aalam.

          A criminal who was crucified near Jesus askedJesus to pray for him when he goes to heaven, because he knew that he was a criminal and getting the right punishment for his crimes, but because he reprented, Jesus had mercy on him and told him: TODAY YOU WILL BE WITH ME IN PARADISE.

          You still doubt that Jesus Christ is LORD ? I only wish that you know him and you know his love and peace before you pass away and leave this life so that you can be saved from sin and the devil.

        4. patriotss Avatar

          you sound like jewish extremist 

        5. whats the difference? you guys are hypocrites, you drink and watch porn like no tomorrow, and then you go talk like your angels. My muslim friends drink more than me, go to the skybar in beirut and see all the muslims drinking.

        6. beiruti no reply button on your comment but I just want to wish you and yours well and salute you  for being a straight shooter and reminding me of  a time when this blog shared different views and experiences  without  being rude and inflamitory as it has become lately.

        7. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          Beiruti, Good to see you here again. I second what my good friend,geo said below.

        8. Hannibal Avatar

          I always asked myself… How come cigarettes kill more. much more , people than alcohol and yet Islam forbids alcohol and allows smoking. The obvious answer is that cigarettes and smoking were practiced by the native Americans and the West had yet to discover the Americas and bring that smoking disease to the rest of the world.
          My second observation, and feel free to correct me, is that the Quran mentions only the alcohol made with grapes, al-5amra, how on Earth did that extrapolate to like Arak which is not from the vine or beer which is made of barley.
          Lastly, study after study shows that the resveratrol and other proanthocyanidins in wine have health benefits and that wine prolongs life by lengthening the telomeres in your cells. So why does the Quran prohibits something good for you and allows smoking, a deadly habit? May be Allah wants to limit the population of Muslims because he anticipated a population explosion since they love sex and they reproduce like rabbits.
          Enlighten me please…

      2. wargame1 Avatar

        It is the Syrian regime who are committing the war crime. Jesus(peace e upon him) is a Muslim and he never died on the cross. He will descend in Syria and according to some analysis it is likely in 2022. Do not support war crimes. We have seen many prisoners of war already captured by the Syrian Mujaheddin; They were treated good.One video like this which is still subject to investigation is already storming around the world …war crime war crime…

        The video has some description where you learn that these shabiha were killing civilians. So they dont even fall in the category of the prisoners of war. The prisoners of war are those Armed solders who are fighting the armed enemy combatant. But according to the statement of the Syrian mujaheddin they were convicted murders of woman and children. 

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          you salafis are the biggest kouffars in God: we even have to teach you your own koran: go read sourat mariam 33 and come back to tell us if issa (what you erroneously believe is Jesus), died and resurrected on the third day

        2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          please keep your peas or your piece (anything but peace, you are allergic to peace) to you; Jesus does not need your peace and certainly dont try to insult Jesus by attributing these things to Him

        3. Hannibal Avatar

          How is Jesus gonna descend in Syria? With a parachute? You see Santa descends on Xmas every year and brings gifts and toys and good vibes to all… Islam descends on nations and bring us Bin Ladin and wars, mayhem, beheadings and killing of innocent children with car bombs and suicidal nitwits. BTW the virgins waiting for you in heavens are all Christian nuns… They never take their clothes off but they will whip your collective asses for pleasure.

      3. wargame1 Avatar

        To all of you CHRISTIANS: JESUS Will Say to You “I never Knew You! DEPART FROM ME!” Jesus said: “Not everyone who says to Me,’Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. Many will say to Me on that day,’Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ “And then I will declare to them,’I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'[Matt. 7:21-23].

        Let us analyze the verse of the Bible

        Jesus (peace be upon him) will not say to Muslims “I never Knew You!” because if you read that passage, Jesus (PBUH) will say those harsh words to those people who call him “LORD, LORD”..Muslims never call Jesus “Lord”! Then who is calling Jesus “LORD”!!!? hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!You..CHRISTIANS ..are the only people who call Jesus “LORD”.

        Muslims do not call Jesus LORD, but only Christians do!
        Muslims do not cast out demons in Jesus name, but only Christians do!
        Muslims do not perform miracles in Jesus name, but Christians do!
        Muslims obey the Laws of God and practice them in their life, but Christians do not!

        So, in the Day of Judgment, Jesus (PBUH) will say to you -Christians-: ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS’

        We Muslims say “In the name of Allah the most gracious the Most Merciful” Allah Hu Akhbar !!

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          obviously you know very little about christianity and about islam too; maybe Jesus may not recognise the christians but i am sure aysha will recognise you, salafi criminals

        2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          allat wa akbar wa al 3izzatou lil jarab

        3. Hannibal Avatar

          Let us revisit this with actions on this Earth… How come wherever you find Christianity as the dominant religion you find a civil society and wherever Islam rules the country is as filthy as shit? Answer that then we move on to the second level of argument…

      4. PeaceintheME Avatar
        PeaceintheME

        Constantin, not trying to have a go at you or your religion my friend as I believe most religions in their own right are a beautiful thing. However you claim that Jesus is the lord. Isn’t the Lord God and if so that means you believe that Jesus was above God. Or does it mean that Jesus was
        equal to God. Why I ask this is because doesn’t Jesus himself refer to God as his Lord.

        I look forward to your response my friend.

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          It is really simple… God, Jesus (God’s manifestation on Earth), and the Holly spirit are ONE!!! If you are judged by Jesus you are judged by God. Jesus and God are not two entities… When you say that this trinity is not one you are then blaspheming. Look at it this way. God is like an ice cube, Jesus is water, and the Holly Spirit is vapor, three forms of the same substance… really, REALLY simple… 

        2. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          Hi PeaceintheME,

          For Christians, Jesus Christ is the only Son of God, not son in the sense of “God got married and had a son”, No. In the sense that all of us humans are the sons of God and God is our father, because when God created Man, he created Man at HIS own image (on God’s own image – Aala sourat al-llah). However, God had his perfect image with him already and was the perfect reflection of GOD, which is Jesus Christ, the only Son of God without Sin.  And the perfect reflection of GOD is GOD. The perfect reflection of God came to earth to save humanity. Yes when he was within humans he acted liked humans too and prayed for the creator too because it was the perfect human praying for the perfect GOD and he wanted to show humans how to pray and behave to be closer to GOD. Therefore, we believe that the perfect human is one with GOD. For this we pray in the name of the Father, the Son, and the wholly Spirit. The only son of God, the perfect human, who is the reflexion of God appeared in the flesh and gave himself as the offering to the creator in order to reconcile the sinner humans with their perfect creator GOD.

          Muslims on Eid Al Adha sacrifice a sheep to offer to God and reconcile with him. The lamb of God is Jesus Christ who is the only one who can reconcile humans with their creator if they believe in him and ask for his mercy.

          So Jesus Christ is not above God, Jesus Christ is equal to God because he is the reflexion of God in the human body, and since he is the only reflexion of God in human form then he is the only Son of God. In the bible, Jesus calls himself “the Son of Man”. If he was just a regular human, he would not call himself the Son of Man, only God would call himself the “Son of Man”, and Man would call him the “Son of God”.

          In Islam, muslims say that Issa is the spirit of God (Rouh allah), but the spirit of God is GOD.

          In Islam, all day long muslims say: “Rassoul Mohammad salla allah aalayhi wa aala ahlihi wa sahbihi wa sallam” Meaning God is going to pray on Mohammad, his family and his friends and greet them”.  Don’t muslims put Mohammad above God in this saying ? God who created Mohammad and everything living and not living in this wolrd is going to pray upon Mohammad ? Do muslims realize what they are saying or they are in complete denial ?  

          I hope I was clear in my explanation. If not please read the New Testament, it is very powerful spiritually and it could help you understand. In any case, your questions are enough to tell me that you are seeking the TRUTH. Keep on your journey my friend. Who seeks finds. As Jesus said knock on my door and I will open it for you.

          Peace for you PeaceintheME !!!

    2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      you need to be referred to den haag; even if what you are saying is just stupid words, in europe you go to jail for this; i am reporting you to europol

      1. If europol have the nerv to look me in the eye and tell me I’m wrong , il will tell them to stick their morals where the sun don’t shine. I do not cow down to scumbag oppressors little man.

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          strong from far but far from strong; min 3antarak? eh 3antaret wa ma hada radneh

    3. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      soon they will have to answer den haag, and you, if you come to europe, got to spend some time fi bayt khaltak

      1. wargame1 Avatar

        There are hundreds of videos of captured Shabiha and they are treated good. But we also have seen some execution of known criminals after the investigation. There are Iranian Majoosis who were executed too after being proved that they were engaged in killing civilians. Many more such incident is yet to come. The Majoosis Iranian have no business to meddle with this conflict so stay away. According to the international law if these execution is war crime then they will be punished but you need to prove it. 

        The whole assad war is illegal , unjust and war crime and the Syrian mujaheddin are not crying to den-hag rather they are dealing with the criminal.If you brand something as war crime doesnt make it a war crime. The international authority is complicit with this war crime and in the future some of those will face justice too for turning a blind eye against the genocide committed by the Syrian regime Iranian Majoosis and Hezbushaitan. And to bring these bastards in to justice you need righteous people.

        1. PeaceintheME Avatar
          PeaceintheME

          Wargame, You say that Iran and Hezbollah have no business meddling in this war. So how about all these animals that are coming from Iraq, Turkey, Afghanistan, Yemen, and list goes on and on. Do they have a right. You see you are blinded by your hate for all other religions that are not Salifi. As long as you have this hatred in your heart, You will never know peace. Keep saying Allah Akbar kill these evil infidels who are not Salifi, As I promise you the devil him self will greet you at the doors of hell.  

    4. PeaceintheME Avatar
      PeaceintheME

      Your blog is joke; any execution of any human under any circumstances is wrong whether it be The Syrian regime or the Terrorist. I don’t blame you however for thinking the way you do. Your fake Salifi religion
      teachers you to scream Allah Akbar and kill innocent people. How the F@@K can you associate Allah with what these FSA animals are doing. Furthermore, if the regime kills innocent people, you call it
      genocide. But if these animals kill innocent people, it’s ok because of a fatwa given by one of your fake Sheiks.

      If this is what’s really in your heart then you are no better than these FSA animals. No man deserves to take another man’s life and no true religion preachers it either. Especially Islam which is what the
      FSA terrorist are not.

      1.  ““You can’t imagine how saddened we are by this crime,” al Sarmani said of the massacre.
        “We were happy with liberating this outpost. This is not the behavior
        of Daoud Brigade, and we will always be saddened and disturbed by this
        story. But we will not stay with our hands tied behind our back. We will
        find these men and they will face justice,” he said.”

        This must’ve slipped past your biased eyesight. Obviously the FSA didn’t commit this crime and they are doing everything they can, considering the circumstances, to find and prosecute the perpetrators. 
        Your hatred for anything “salafi” is quiet obvious but that doesn’t justify calling freedom fighters “animals”… Hopefully you and your family never have to experience what these poor Syrians are experiencing at the hands of a cold blooded regime, not to mention their supporters.

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Too many ‘semi-sects’ with their own ‘glorious leaders’ making up rules as they go along.

        2. PeaceintheME Avatar
          PeaceintheME

          Oh so because Al Sarmani said it wasn’t the FSA who committed this crime, we are just supposed to believe him. So it would be fare to say you believe the Syrian regime when they say they are not committing genocide. Or is it really you my friend who is biased. And how dare you call them freedom fighters. More like mercenaries being paid by we all know who to come and destroy a once beautiful country. What is this war really about. Let me guess freedom. What have all these animals that are coming from all these other countries have to do with the freedom of the Syrian people.

          Further, how about the majority who support the govenment, do they have a say. You see like most on this blog, you are brainwashed by the main stream media and only can do what you are told. Keep telling yourself that the FSA are freedom fighters. Wont change a thing, These ANIMALS are being destroyed by the hundreds everyday. The Syrian regime has won the war. Now they are cleaning up the scaps.

          One more thing, I thankyou for not wishing death upon me and my family, Something other bloggers on this site have wished in the past.

      2.  “blah blah blah As I promise you the devil him self will greet you at the doors of hell.”

        LMFAO now you are acting as if you are god and promising people hellfire. wow
        Is this a new shia sect you have created?

        1. PeaceintheME Avatar
          PeaceintheME

          What can I say Preview. If that’s how you understood my blog, well it only tells me how smart you really are.

  7. wargame1 Avatar

    @tayyyyar10452:disqus 
    I know about shia taqyaa and the fraud. According to the Prophesy the Muslims will defeat the Iranian Majoosis. The Romans and the Muslims together will attack Iran. But this event is yet to take place but before that Iran will try to take over Saudi oil. It is possible that the Syrian regime and Iranian majoosis have already planned that so there might be a saudi invasion during hajj where the unarmed pilgrims will be killed by these shia of Dajjal. This event will trigger the whole Muslim world to wake up and organize against the Majoosis. 

    But after the defeat of Iran the Roman will break the treaty over booty distribution and invade Syria. Here is the place the great battle will occur but long before that the Alawite regime and the Iranian regime will be gone in to oblivion. Your last hope is your supposed 12 Imam who will supposedly rule the world with the Law of David i.e. Talmud. This 12 Imam character is none other than the Dajjal i.e. AntiChrist who will be killed by Jesus(Peace be upon him) near the gate of Lod i.e. Near Bengorian Airport in Israel!! 

    Well thats going to happen in a distance future but what is coming is end of Alawite rule in Syria and Assads death and the Advent of Al Mahdi i.e. The guided one who will conquer Syria and before that his first mission will be to attack Iran and Russia. 

    1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      am sorry, i like to answer all blogs; but this one, i am terribly sorry, i have no words to answer; i cant work with lack of logic; i am sorry again

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        LOL.It was a matter of time .Sooner or later He can get to anyone,including 10452.
        It is easier Waring with the admin than having a dialogue or playing a game with “peaceful” war.I noticed the sense of humility that comes out of this.He can make anyone feel so humble,and you just throw your hands up in the air, or in the direction of whoever/whatever you believe in,and than walk away.

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          i did not throw my hands up in the air, but you cannot have a logical discusion with irrationality; even the irrational 5th have some logic compared to wargame; look at him, he still considers me a shia; how can i handle this; as far as the long irrational senseless story about crucifixion, he can go to sourat mariam 33

        2. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          10452, Keep talking to him, you might even become one,lol.I only remember my shiism when I read his twisted theories.
          It’s a loose loose situation.

        3. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          are you a shia? just curious

        4. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          Mahdi Kenaani, Curiosity ?Not surprised at all.All Lebanese Ask you about your name, which won’t always tell your sect,and then ask you about your last name,hoping it reveals more about you,and then ask you where you are from.All for the purpose of knowing exaclty what your religion and your sect is. then they try to find out who you support or follow. If You are a maronite christian, they are curious as  to who you support Geagea ,or Aoun. If you are Muslim Sunni, they assum you are either a Hariri follower, or an Islamist/salafi.If you follow neither, you won’t be beleived.Now,If your are a Shiia Muslim, they assume you support HA or Amal.To answer your questions,Yes I’m Shiaa, from the very very south.No,I’m not a follower of either HA or Amal, But I’m  BIG supporter of the resistance against Israel. I supported the Resistance before the creation of HA,and will suport the resistance  against Israel even if it was lead by Geagea , Al-Assir,or the devil.lol
          So yes, Born In Bint-Jbeil.,left Lebanon in the early eighties.But I’m Lebanese before anything else.I understand that in Lebanon, your faith and sect is always associated with what you are supposed to believe,and that is one of the reasons I find it hard to live in Lebanon again.
          My Question is;Do I Need To Wear A Helmet now?lol

        5. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          well i reciprocate your feelings towards me by telling you you got good points; some i share and others i do not; however i respect your opinion. Having left Lebanon in the 80’s as you claim, a period where i, as a lebanese, supported israel; sorry to deceive you; yet, thru the years, i realised my stance was wrong and now i may join you on that. My question to you is as follows: why do you find the urge of fighting israel?

          1. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            10452,
            I respect your honesty about your past ,and I appreciate your forthcoming and sharing that with us.You didn’t have to,but you did,and that tells me that you are genuine  about your change of stance about Israel.
            I never said, nor did I insinuate that I have any urge to fight Israel,But I did say ,and continue to say that I supported ,and continue to support Resistance against Israel. Resistance is usually referred to as a mean of self defense against an occupier,aggressor,and against intentions of aggression.
            I confess to you though, that I never believed that Israel was a legitimate state,and I believe that Israel was created at the expense of Palestine and its people.It was created through aggression, murder, occupation, massacres,and ethnic cleansing.Not to mention the claim that God promised them this land, because God never told me that,and I never knew that God was in real estate business.My reply to that claim is this; If God really promised them this land, what took him so long to deliver? And if it is true that He made such promise, why would He Want his wishes to be executed in a harmful way to his other creatures,the Palestinians?Unless We assume that God is racist himself,and not fair to all of his children,and that is not the case.
            Since the creation of Israel,It has launched enough assaults against Lebanese territories and its people. Not to mention all the massacres it did against Lebanese people in many southerner villages in the forties and fifties, incursion against our border was very common. Shelling for no reason or for invented reasons was a daily routine.I could go on an on,but the bottom line is that I never knew that Lebanese army ,or any Lebanese ever invaded Israel or attacked or shelled Israel. It was always Israel which attacked us.All of that took place when “our strength was in our weakness” .All of that took place when our government didn’t care to protect its territories and people. All of that took place before PLO moved to Lebanon,and way before the Iranian revolution,and definitely before the creation of HA.So My support for resistance against Israel and defending Lebanon from Israeli aggression is very real and legitimate ,and very well based on fear from Israel.
            You might get the impression that I would want to wipe Israel from the face of the earth  Not really. Would I loose sleep if that happened? Not really. Is is my intention or job to do it, not really.Do I support any Lebanese,  Resistance or not, to do it, Not really. All I want Is a strong Lebanon  in order to defend its territories against any aggression from Israel. 
            You might ask me if we could ever have peace with Israel  My answer is; not likely, but possible if Israel decided and agreed to live like a normal country abiding by international law,and that is a stretch for  a country build on aggression to accept these conditions.Nevertheless,I think that what Lebanese should seek is a non- aggression treaty whereby, they leave us alone,and we’ll leave them alone. A peace treaty is not really required. Israel always talks about peace with Lebanon but in reality, it wants submission from Lebanese in the name of peace. Any talk about peace agreement must be conditioned equally.We all know how it negotiated with Egypt,the Palestinians,and with Lebanese after it invaded Lebanon in 1982.

        6. Hannibal Avatar

          A friend of mine converted to Islam his name was Anthony… Another friend converted to Christianity and his name was Riad… and lets not forget the Son of Hamas, The oldest son of the Hamas leader Sheikh Hassan Yousef, Mosab Hassan Yousef who converted to Christianity and wrote a book about it.

          and Prophet, you are a true Lebanese… One topic that keeps annoying me though among some people… Israel is to be feared but the Syrians never acknowledged that Lebanon is not part of Syria and therefore for at least half of the Lebanese it is a more imminent danger than Israel is and that is a fact whether the Syrians are pro or against Assad. As a matter of fact the borders are so grey that the Syrians are encroaching on big chunks of land much bigger than Shebaa. Yet, nothing is being said by HA or their allies. I get really pissed off when some in the March 14 camp raise the rebel Syrian flag… Or for that matter the current Syrian flag.
          The only flag I want to see is a Lebanese flag with either a Cedar or a cannabis leaf in the center… 😉

          1. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Hannibal,
            You and I went through this discussion many times over the years.Few points to make ,as briefly as I can.
            I sense that most people who considered Syria to be a threat  to Lebanon are those who dislike Assad and his Father. I wonder if the New democrats of Syria would have different policies toward Lebanon .Strangely , those who oppose Assad are the once who trashed  and hated everything that was or smelled Syrian, yet now they support freedom and democracy for the same Syrian people,who they  had abused
            That being said, I always recognized,and said so on this blog, that there are plenty of issues and differences which needed to be resolved between Lebanon and Syria. Many of these issues existed before the Assads took over.Non of those issues were severe enough for Lebanon to consider Syria to be an enemy.Lebanese factions have ,at one time or another,allied themselves with Syria  Once they had a fallen out, they consider Syria as a threat and an enemy. Simply hypocrisy and self interest.
             No matter who rules Syria, these issues will exist,and would still have to be sorted out,and resolved. Just about every country in the world has some territorial disputes with its neighbors, but that never makes them enemies.
            I never considered Syria to be an enemy to Lebanon and never will.Even if Assad and his regime is removed, Syria and Lebanon will have some tensions   
            Our domestic issues always influence the way we see Syria,and that has a a lot to do with the fact that Syria always interfered with our political live.
            Once we sort out our problems, and establish a common understanding of our own national identity,  than , we can sort out our differences regarding Syria.

        7. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Got your helmet in place Prophet ? 😉
          I think 10452 actually used some truth stating his problem in ‘working’ on this one … ‘lack of logic’.
          Considering that the whole of ‘belief systems’ have little of logic in them in the first place, arguing over the fine points of text meanings from scripts of the ancients becomes illogical in itself, and moreso if arguing over translations of ancient tongues.
          I mean, if we use just one story, humans really lost out trying to get to heaven building a tower, right? One day constructing something all together is going well, and the next day the engineer can’t tell a slave which shovel to use, and the whole project collapses in useless babel … and they are still trying to find ‘the plans’ for the next level because the runner bringing them couldn’t ask directions to the site.. 🙂
          Maybe we should look for some good meanings in the stories, or simply wonder at how the ancients saw the world in general, but not take it all so seriously.

          I still enjoy contemplating Douglas Adams’ thought in the Hitchiker’s Guide … 
          “There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.”

          Could be right ….. :-)))

          1. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            5th, I do have my helmet on.
            I agree,and sympathies with 10452 . Dealing with non-logical thinking and irrational people makes you speechless. When I first met “Game God”  few month ago, I attempted to engage him,but I threw my hands up in the air,and became speechless.
            All fanatics,Muslims, christian,or Jews have one thing in common, which is their belief that they are on earth to implement God’s will,and that they have exclusive ownership and knowledge of what God wants.They take the role of God,and start executing what they believe He wants,and they leave nothing for him to do. that is very irrational,and impossible to negotiate with.

        8. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          Are Lebanese really like that? You managed to tell a sad story in a funny way. It made me laugh.

      2.  lol you are a shiite! Only shiite’s refer to sunni muslims as “aysha”. You gave yourself up with that term. Good try tho

      3. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Sometimes 10452, quotes CAN be useful. Try this one …..
        “I can’t be talking to you about this anymore. I would horse-whip you if I had a horse.” – Groucho Marx, Horsefeathers

  8. wargame1 Avatar

    @tayyyyar10452:disqus 
    I know about shia taqyaa and the fraud. According to the Prophesy the Muslims will defeat the Iranian Majoosis. The Romans and the Muslims together will attack Iran. But this event is yet to take place but before that Iran will try to take over Saudi oil. It is possible that the Syrian regime and Iranian majoosis have already planned that so there might be a saudi invasion during hajj where the unarmed pilgrims will be killed by these shia of Dajjal. This event will trigger the whole Muslim world to wake up and organize against the Majoosis. 

    But after the defeat of Iran the Roman will break the treaty over booty distribution and invade Syria. Here is the place the great battle will occur but long before that the Alawite regime and the Iranian regime will be gone in to oblivion. Your last hope is your supposed 12 Imam who will supposedly rule the world with the Law of David i.e. Talmud. This 12 Imam character is none other than the Dajjal i.e. AntiChrist who will be killed by Jesus(Peace be upon him) near the gate of Lod i.e. Near Bengorian Airport in Israel!! 

    Well thats going to happen in a distance future but what is coming is end of Alawite rule in Syria and Assads death and the Advent of Al Mahdi i.e. The guided one who will conquer Syria and before that his first mission will be to attack Iran and Russia. 

    1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      am sorry, i like to answer all blogs; but this one, i am terribly sorry, i have no words to answer; i cant work with lack of logic; i am sorry again

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        LOL.

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          i did not throw my hands up in the air, but you cannot have a logical discusion with irrationality; even the irrational 5th have some logic compared to wargame; look at him, he still considers me a shia; how can i handle this; as far as the long irrational senseless story about crucifixion, he can go to sourat mariam 33

        2. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          10452, Keep talking to him, you might even become one,lol.I only remember my shiism when I read his twisted theories.
          It’s a loose loose situation.

        3. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          are you a shia? just curious

        4. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          Mahdi Kenaani, Curiosity ?Not surprised at all.All Lebanese Ask you about your name, which won’t always tell your sect,and then ask you about your last name,hoping it reveals more about you,and then ask you where you are from.All for the purpose of knowing exaclty what your religion and your sect is. then they try to find out who you support or follow. If You are a maronite christian, they are curious as  to who you support Geagea ,or Aoun. If you are Muslim Sunni, they assum you are either a aharirir follower, or an islamit. If your are a Shiia Muslim, they assume you support HA or Amal.To answer your questions,Yes I’m Shiaa, from the very very south.No,I’m not a follower of either HA or Amal, But I’m  BIG supporter of the resistance. I supported the Resistance before the creation of HA,and will suport the resistance  against Israel even if it was lead by Geagea , Al-Assir,or the devil.lol
          So yes, Born In Bint-Jbeil.,left Lebanon in the early eighties.

        5. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          well i reciprocate your feelings towards me by telling you you got good points; some i share and others i do not; however i respect your opinion. Having left Lebanon in the 80’s as you claim, a period where i, as a lebanese, supported israel; sorry to deceive you; yet, thru the years, i realised my stance was wrong and now i may join you on that. My question to you is as follows: why do you find the urge of fighting israel?

          1. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            10452,
            I respect your honesty about your past ,and I appreciate your forthcoming and sharing that with us.You didn’t have to,but you did,and that tells me that you are genuine  about your change of stance about Israel.
            I never said, nor did I insinuate that I have any urge to fight Israel,But I did say ,and continue to say that I supported ,and continue to support Resistance against Israel. Resistance is usually referred to as a mean of self defense against an occupier,aggressor,and against intentions of aggression.
            I confess to you though, that I never believed that Israel was a legitimate state,and I believe that Israel was created at the expense of Palestine and its people.It was created through aggression, murder, occupation, massacres,and ethnic cleansing.Not to mention the claim that God promised them this land, because God never told me that,and I never knew that God was in real estate business.My reply to that claim is this; If God really promised them this land, what took him so long to deliver? And if it is true that He made such promise, what would He Want his wishes to be executed in a harmful way to his other creatures,the Palestinians?Unless We assume that God is racist himself,and not fair to all of his children,and that is not the case.
            Since the creation of Israel,It has launched enough assaults against Lebanese territories and its people. Not to mention all the massacres it did against Lebanese people in many southerner villages in the forties and fifties, incursion against our border was very common. Shelling for no reason or for invented reasons was a daily routine.I could go on an on,but the bottom line is that I never knew that Lebanese army ,or any Lebanese ever invaded Israel or attacked or shelled Israel. It was always Israel which attacked us.All of that took place when “our strength was in our weakness” .All of that took place when our government didn’t care to protect its territories and people. All of that took place before PLO moved to Lebanon,and way before the Iranian revolution,and definitely before the creation of HA.So My support for resistance against Israel and defending Lebanon from Israeli aggression is very real and legitimate ,and very well based on fear from Israel.
            You might get the impression that I would want to wipe Israel from the face of the earth  Not really. Would I loose sleep if that happened? Not really. Is is my intention or job to do it, not really.Do I support any Lebanese,  Resistance or not, to do it, Not really. All I want Is a strong Lebanon  in order to defend its territories against any aggression from Israel. 
            You might ask me if we could ever have peace with Israel  My answer is; not likely, but possible if Israel decided and agreed to live like a normal country abiding by international law,and that is a stretch for  a country build on aggression to accept these conditions.Nevertheless,I think that what Lebanese should seek is a non- aggression treaty whereby, they leave us alone,and we’ll leave them alone. A peace treaty is not really required. Israel always talks about peace with Lebanon but in reality, it wants submission from Lebanese in the name of peace. Any talk about peace agreement must be conditioned equally.We all know how it negotiated with Egypt,the Palestinians,and with Lebanese after it invaded Lebanon in 1982.

        6. Hannibal Avatar

          A friend of mine converted to Islam his name was Anthony… Another friend converted to Christianity and his name was Riad… and lets not forget the Son of Hamas, The oldest son of the Hamas leader Sheikh Hassan Yousef, Mosab Hassan Yousef who converted to Christianity and wrote a book about it.

          and Prophet, you are a true Lebanese… One topic that keeps annoying me though among some people… Israel is to be feared but the Syrians never acknowledged that Lebanon is not part of Syria and therefore for at least half of the Lebanese it is a more imminent danger than Israel is and that is a fact whether the Syrians are pro or against Assad. As a matter of fact the borders are so grey that the Syrians are encroaching on big chunks of land much bigger than Shebaa. Yet, nothing is being said by HA or their allies. I get really pissed off when some in the March 14 camp raise the rebel Syrian flag… Or for that matter the current Syrian flag.
          The only flag I want to see is a Lebanese flag with either a Cedar or a cannabis leaf in the center… 😉

          1. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            Hannibal,
            You and I went through this discussion many times over the years.Few points to make ,as briefly as I can.
            I sense that most people who considered Syria to be a threat  to Lebanon are those who dislike Assad and his Father. I wonder if the New democrats of Syria would have different policies toward Lebanon .Strangely , those who oppose Assad are the once who trashed  and hated everything that was or smelled Syrian, yet now they support freedom and democracy for the same Syrian people,who they  had abused
            That being said, I always recognized,and said so on this blog, that there are plenty of issues and differences which needed to be resolved between Lebanon and Syria. Many of these issues existed before the Assads took over.Non of those issues were severe enough for Lebanon to consider Syria to be an enemy.Lebanese factions have ,at one time or another,allied themselves with Syria  Once they had a fallen out, they consider Syria as a threat and an enemy. Simply hypocrisy and self interest.
             No matter who rules Syria, these issues will exist,and would still have to be sorted out,and resolved. Just about every country in the world has some territorial disputes with its neighbors, but that never makes them enemies.
            I never considered Syria to be an enemy to Lebanon and never will.Even if Assad and his regime is removed, Syria and Lebanon will have some tensions   
            Our domestic issues always influence the way we see Syria,and that has a a lot to do with the fact that Syria always interfered with our political live.
            Once we sort out our problems, and establish a common understanding of our own national identity,  than , we can sort out our differences regarding Syria.

        7. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Got your helmet in place Prophet ? 😉
          I think 10452 actually used some truth stating his problem in ‘working’ on this one … ‘lack of logic’.
          Considering that the whole of ‘belief systems’ have little of logic in them in the first place, arguing over the fine points of text meanings from scripts of the ancients becomes illogical in itself, and moreso if arguing over translations of ancient tongues.
          I mean, if we use just one story, humans really lost out trying to get to heaven building a tower, right? One day constructing something all together is going well, and the next day the engineer can’t tell a slave which shovel to use, and the whole project collapses in useless babel … and they are still trying to find ‘the plans’ for the next level because the runner bringing them couldn’t ask directions to the site.. 🙂
          Maybe we should look for some good meanings in the stories, or simply wonder at how the ancients saw the world in general, but not take it all so seriously.

          I still enjoy contemplating Douglas Adams’ thought in the Hitchiker’s Guide … 
          “There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.”

          Could be right ….. :-)))

          1. Prophettttt Avatar
            Prophettttt

            5th, I do have my helmet on.
            I agree,and sympathies with 10452 . Dealing with non-logical thinking and irrational people makes you speechless. When I first met “Game God”  few month ago, I attempted to engage him,but I threw my hands up in the air,and became speechless.
            All fanatics,Muslims, christian,or Jews have one thing in common, which is their belief that they are on earth to implement God’s will,and that they have exclusive ownership and knowledge of what Good wants.They take the role of God,and start executing what they believe He wants,and they leave nothing for him to do. that is very irrational,and impossible to negotiate with.

        8. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          Are Lebanese really like that? You managed to tell a sad story in a funny way. It made me laugh.

      2.  lol you are a shiite! Only shiite’s refer to sunni muslims as “aysha”. You gave yourself up with that term. Good try tho

      3. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Sometimes 10452, quotes CAN be useful. Try this one …..
        “I can’t be talking to you about this anymore. I would horse-whip you if I had a horse.” – Groucho Marx, Horsefeathers

  9. wargame1 Avatar

    @tayyyyar10452:disqus 
    You Majoosis call the dead people who cant help you such as Ya Ali,Ya Hussein, Ya Fatima. They are dead and not your god so dont worship their grave. Call on Allah. Allah hu Akhbar. 

    1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      soura 112: wa kol anna allahou ahad; anna allahou samad
      translate this for me into english and please do not tell me this means allah is one; koran clearly says allah is trinity

      1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
        tayyyyar10452

        clear

  10. wargame1 Avatar

    @tayyyyar10452:disqus 
    You Majoosis call the dead people who cant help you such as Ya Ali,Ya Hussein, Ya Fatima. They are dead and not your god so dont worship their grave. Call on Allah. Allah hu Akhbar. 

    1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      soura 112: wa kol anna allahou ahad; anna allahou samad
      translate this for me into english and please do not tell me this means allah is one; koran clearly says allah is trinity

      1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
        tayyyyar10452

        clear

  11. wargame1 Avatar

    @tayyyyar10452:disqus 
    Jesus did not die on cross, says Christian scholar!

    Jesus may not have died nailed to the cross because there is no evidence that the Romans crucified prisoners two thousand years ago, a scholar has claimed.

    The legend of his execution is based on the traditions of the Christian church and artistic illustrations rather than antique texts, according to theologian Gunnar Samuelsson.He claims the Bible has been misinterpreted as there are no explicit references the use of nails or to crucifixion – only that Jesus bore a “staurus” towards Calvary which is not necessarily a cross but can also mean a “pole”.Mr Samuelsson, who has written a 400-page thesis after studying the original texts, said: “The problem is descriptions of crucifixions are remarkably absent in the antique literature.”The sources where you would expect to find support for the established understanding of the event really don’t say anything.”The ancient Greek, Latin and Hebrew literature from Homer to the first century AD describe an arsenal of suspension punishments but none mention “crosses” or “crucifixion.”

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Everything has been ‘misinterpreted’ over 3000 years … And the early ‘in use’ hand-written texts (AD) had begun to leave out parts of the Nag Hammadi (Gnostic Gospels) because even then the ‘fairy-tale’ likenesses were a little too hard to swallow – and moreso after the Church of Rome became established. (Catholic simply means Christian)
      The Gnostic Gospels are something similar to Romulus and Remus establishing Rome, but relate more to the formation of Mother Earth with touches of heaven and hell thrown in. The Myths of Time.
      Humans were developing their knowledge, after all … if it seemed too far-fetched or didn’t work, it got left out.
      And then there were the ‘Dark Ages’ when ‘the people’ were not allowed to read or write, and only ‘the church’ disseminated ‘the word’.
      (Hmmm .. where is that practiced today? 😉
      Much like the progression of St. Nicholas to Father Christmas to Santa Claus, ‘the texts’ evolved. Good stories all. Basic guides to social living – in various landscapes. And most often, not quite like the originals. One might say they are variations on theoretical themes.

      Why anyone is arguing here in 2012 about Jesus being anything other than the Son of God is beyond me.
      Look it up in Wikipedia. 🙂

      1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
        tayyyyar10452

        ABBA akbar

      2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
        tayyyyar10452

        are you afraid to criticise salfism or sunnism; you just criticise christians and shiites; are you afraid to have a wage cut by your masters?

      3. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Oh, well, (for below) I dump the Koran into ‘the texts’ of course … can’t leave out the newest of the theme-variations and, with tracking, the one most often changed in recent millennia. Equality above all. 🙂 

        And this dhimmi’s ‘fixed wages’ are simply boosted by the smile I bring to your face. 🙂
        (I recall a line … something like ‘dhimmi dhimmi never gets’ …. (or was that ‘gimmie’ … hmm))
        Anyway, it certainly sounds like the old Japanese feudal system … Samuria testing blade-quality on Peasant sort of thing.
        So … I’ll stand on the ‘equality line’ when it comes to the ‘theme variations’ for all of them, and thus criticise them all for you … equally. Rather democratic, don’t you think?

  12. wargame1 Avatar

    @tayyyyar10452:disqus 
    Jesus did not die on cross, says Christian scholar!

    Jesus may not have died nailed to the cross because there is no evidence that the Romans crucified prisoners two thousand years ago, a scholar has claimed.

    The legend of his execution is based on the traditions of the Christian church and artistic illustrations rather than antique texts, according to theologian Gunnar Samuelsson.He claims the Bible has been misinterpreted as there are no explicit references the use of nails or to crucifixion – only that Jesus bore a “staurus” towards Calvary which is not necessarily a cross but can also mean a “pole”.Mr Samuelsson, who has written a 400-page thesis after studying the original texts, said: “The problem is descriptions of crucifixions are remarkably absent in the antique literature.”The sources where you would expect to find support for the established understanding of the event really don’t say anything.”The ancient Greek, Latin and Hebrew literature from Homer to the first century AD describe an arsenal of suspension punishments but none mention “crosses” or “crucifixion.”

    1. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Everything has been ‘misinterpreted’ over 3000 years … And the early ‘in use’ hand-written texts (AD) had begun to leave out parts of the Nag Hammadi (Gnostic Gospels) because even then the ‘fairy-tale’ likenesses were a little too hard to swallow – and moreso after the Church of Rome became established. (Catholic simply means Christian)
      The Gnostic Gospels are something similar to Romulus and Remus establishing Rome, but relate more to the formation of Mother Earth with touches of heaven and hell thrown in. The Myths of Time.
      Humans were developing their knowledge, after all … if it seemed too far-fetched or didn’t work, it got left out.
      And then there were the ‘Dark Ages’ when ‘the people’ were not allowed to read or write, and only ‘the church’ disseminated ‘the word’.
      (Hmmm .. where is that practiced today? 😉
      Much like the progression of St. Nicholas to Father Christmas to Santa Claus, ‘the texts’ evolved. Good stories all. Basic guides to social living – in various landscapes. And most often, not quite like the originals.

      Why anyone is arguing here in 2012 about Jesus being anything other than the Son of God is beyond me.
      Look it up in Wikipedia. 🙂

      1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
        tayyyyar10452

        ABBA akbar

      2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
        tayyyyar10452

        are you afraid to criticise salfism or sunnism; you just criticise christians and shiites; are you afraid to have a wage cut by your masters?

      3. 5thDrawer Avatar

        Oh, well, I dump the Koran into ‘the texts’ of course … can’t leave out the newest of the theme-variations and, with tracking, the one most often changed in recent millennia. Equality above all. 🙂 

  13. wargame1 Avatar

    @tayyyyar10452:disqus 

    “That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary A grave false charge;  That they said (in boast):  ‘We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah.’  But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.  Nay, Allah raised him up Unto Himself; and Allah Is Exalted in Power, Wise.  And there is none of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him  (Jesus) Before his death; And on the Day of Judgment He (Jesus) will be a witness Against them.”  (Quran 4:156-159)

    The false charge against Mary was that she was unchaste.  Such a charge is bad enough to make against any woman, but to make it against Mary, the mother of Jesus, was to bring into redicule Allah’s power itself.  Islam is specially strong in guarding the reputation of women.  Slanderers of women are bound to bring four witnesses in support of their accusation, and if they fail to produce four witnesses, they are be flogged with eighty stripes and debarred forever from being competent witnesses.

    1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      issa is not Jesus; it is esau; mariam is not bint omran; mariam the mother of Jesus was few hundred years away from mariam bint omran; we need to talk about the same persons

      1. wargame1 Avatar

        Surah 3. The Family Of ‘Imran, The House Of ‘Imran
        Verse :42. Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.
        43. “O Mary! worship Thy Lord devoutly: Prostrate thyself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down.”
        44. This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger.) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point).
        45. Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.
        46. “He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous.”
        47. She said: “O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?” He said: “Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, ‘Be,’ and it is!
        48. “And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel,
        49. “And (appoint him) an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): “‘I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah.s leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah.s leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;
        50. “‘(I have come to you), to attest the Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (Before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear Allah, and obey me.
        51. “‘It is Allah Who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship Him. This is a Way that is straight.’”

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Same God no matter whether named God or Allah.  Take your choice between a loving god or a fearful one; the words of a loving teacher of a loving god, or a fearful ‘prophet’ of a fearful god. Both ‘ways’ are straight, if adheared to … and the sign-post at the end of the road says ‘welcome’ … assuming you haven’t broken ‘the law’ by running around killing people most of your life – because you are confused by the concept of a holy spirit, and jealous of a revered son of God/Allah who uttered no threats to gain acceptance in people’s minds.

      2. wargame1 Avatar

        Surah 112. The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of Allah
        1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
        2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
        3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
        4. And there is none like unto Him.

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          lol on your honour is this how this verse translates!!!!lol
          this is the salafi english (normally not halal) translation of it but allah assamad does not mean that; allah ahad does not mean allah is one

      3. wargame1 Avatar

        Surah 5.
        Verse72. They do blaspheme who say: “(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary.” But said Christ: “O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.
        73. They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.
        74. Why turn they not to Allah, and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Merciful.
        75. Christ the son of Mary was no more than an apostle; many were the apostles that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
        76. Say: “Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah,- He it is that heareth and knoweth all things.”
        77. Say: “O people of the Book! exceed not in your religion the bounds (of what is proper), trespassing beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by,- who misled many, and strayed (themselves) from the even way.”

        Now check out the Bible
        John 20:17 “Jesus saith unto her, ‘Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, l ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.’”

      4. wargame1 Avatar

        Mark 12
        28: One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
        29: “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
        30: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.
        What Jesus was refering in John was that he is not God at all.
        i) “My Father is greater than I.”
        [The Bible, John 14:28]
        (ii) “My Father is greater than all.”
        [The Bible, John 10:29]
        (iii) “…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God….”
        [The Bible, Mathew 12:28]
        (iv) “…I with the finger of God cast out devils….” [The Bible, Luke 11:20]
        (v) “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.”
        [The Bible, John 5:30]
        “Most assuredly, I say to you, the son can do nothing of himself …” (John 5:19)
        How can the Christians call Jesus a God when he is not greater and he can do nothing by himself?
        Jesus refuted the remotes suggestion of Divinity.
        Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:
        “And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’
        And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ ”
        [The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]
        “For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

        [The Bible, Mathew 5:17-20]
        There is not a single unequivocal statement in the complete Bible, where Jesus Christ peace be upon him says… ‘I am God’ – or where he says… ‘Worship me’. ­­­­­­Infect if you read the Bible,
        As it is, you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God (John 8: 40)

        Now check out the Quran

        “They do blaspheme who say: “God is Christ the son of Mary.” But said Christ: “O Children of Israel! worship God, my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever joins other gods with God,- God will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. [Quran 5:72

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          I am He; none will go to the Father except thru me

        2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          alef lam mim starts 6 verses of koran; what do they mean? lol answer my questions and do not copy and paste parroting stupidities you do not understand

          these refer to the alpha and omega assuming the syro aramaic origin of the koran

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          tayyyyar10452

          Jesus: I am the alpha and the omega; i am the beginning and the end

          lol

        4. Hannibal Avatar

          You are made with flesh and spirit… Jesus is made of flesh and the Spirit of God… The Quran says so… (wa nafa5na fiihi min rouhina)… When He casts devils and heals the sick, He does so with the power of the Spirit and not the flesh.

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    @tayyyyar10452:disqus 

    “That they rejected Faith; That they uttered against Mary A grave false charge;  That they said (in boast):  ‘We killed Christ Jesus The son of Mary, The Messenger of Allah.’  But they killed him not, Nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not.  Nay, Allah raised him up Unto Himself; and Allah Is Exalted in Power, Wise.  And there is none of the people of the book (Jews and Christians) But must believe in him  (Jesus) Before his death; And on the Day of Judgment He (Jesus) will be a witness Against them.”  (Quran 4:156-159)

    The false charge against Mary was that she was unchaste.  Such a charge is bad enough to make against any woman, but to make it against Mary, the mother of Jesus, was to bring into redicule Allah’s power itself.  Islam is specially strong in guarding the reputation of women.  Slanderers of women are bound to bring four witnesses in support of their accusation, and if they fail to produce four witnesses, they are be flogged with eighty stripes and debarred forever from being competent witnesses.

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      tayyyyar10452

      issa is not Jesus; it is esau; mariam is not bint omran; mariam the mother of Jesus was few hundred years away from mariam bint omran; we need to talk about the same persons

      1. wargame1 Avatar

        Surah 3. The Family Of ‘Imran, The House Of ‘Imran
        Verse :42. Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.
        43. “O Mary! worship Thy Lord devoutly: Prostrate thyself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down.”
        44. This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger.) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point).
        45. Behold! the angels said: “O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.
        46. “He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous.”
        47. She said: “O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?” He said: “Even so: Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, ‘Be,’ and it is!
        48. “And Allah will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel,
        49. “And (appoint him) an apostle to the Children of Israel, (with this message): “‘I have come to you, with a Sign from your Lord, in that I make for you out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, and breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by Allah.s leave: And I heal those born blind, and the lepers, and I quicken the dead, by Allah.s leave; and I declare to you what ye eat, and what ye store in your houses. Surely therein is a Sign for you if ye did believe;
        50. “‘(I have come to you), to attest the Law which was before me. And to make lawful to you part of what was (Before) forbidden to you; I have come to you with a Sign from your Lord. So fear Allah, and obey me.
        51. “‘It is Allah Who is my Lord and your Lord; then worship Him. This is a Way that is straight.’”

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Same God no matter whether named God or Allah.  Take your choice between a loving god or a fearful one; the words of a loving teacher of a loving god, or a fearful ‘prophet’ of a fearful god. Both ‘ways’ are straight, if adheared to … and the sign-post at the end of the road says ‘welcome’ … assuming you haven’t broken ‘the law’ by running around killing people most of your life – because you are confused by the concept of a holy spirit, and jealous of a revered son of God/Allah who uttered no threats to gain acceptance in people’s minds.

      2. wargame1 Avatar

        Surah 112. The Unity, Sincerity, Oneness Of Allah
        1. Say: He is Allah, the One and Only;
        2. Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;
        3. He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;
        4. And there is none like unto Him.

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          lol on your honour is this how this verse translates!!!!lol
          this is the salafi english (normally not halal) translation of it but allah assamad does not mean that; allah ahad does not mean allah is one

      3. wargame1 Avatar

        Surah 5.
        Verse72. They do blaspheme who say: “(Allah) is Christ the son of Mary.” But said Christ: “O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help.
        73. They do blaspheme who say: Allah is one of three in a Trinity: for there is no god except One Allah. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous penalty will befall the blasphemers among them.
        74. Why turn they not to Allah, and seek His forgiveness? For Allah is Oft- forgiving, Most Merciful.
        75. Christ the son of Mary was no more than an apostle; many were the apostles that passed away before him. His mother was a woman of truth. They had both to eat their (daily) food. See how Allah doth make His signs clear to them; yet see in what ways they are deluded away from the truth!
        76. Say: “Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you? But Allah,- He it is that heareth and knoweth all things.”
        77. Say: “O people of the Book! exceed not in your religion the bounds (of what is proper), trespassing beyond the truth, nor follow the vain desires of people who went wrong in times gone by,- who misled many, and strayed (themselves) from the even way.”

        Now check out the Bible
        John 20:17 “Jesus saith unto her, ‘Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, l ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.’”

      4. wargame1 Avatar

        Mark 12
        28: One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”
        29: “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
        30: Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.
        What Jesus was refering in John was that he is not God at all.
        i) “My Father is greater than I.”
        [The Bible, John 14:28]
        (ii) “My Father is greater than all.”
        [The Bible, John 10:29]
        (iii) “…I cast out devils by the Spirit of God….”
        [The Bible, Mathew 12:28]
        (iv) “…I with the finger of God cast out devils….” [The Bible, Luke 11:20]
        (v) “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.”
        [The Bible, John 5:30]
        “Most assuredly, I say to you, the son can do nothing of himself …” (John 5:19)
        How can the Christians call Jesus a God when he is not greater and he can do nothing by himself?
        Jesus refuted the remotes suggestion of Divinity.
        Consider the following incident mentioned in the Bible:
        “And behold, one came and said unto him, ‘Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?’
        And he said unto him, ‘Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.’ ”
        [The Bible, Mathew 19:16-17]
        “For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.”

        [The Bible, Mathew 5:17-20]
        There is not a single unequivocal statement in the complete Bible, where Jesus Christ peace be upon him says… ‘I am God’ – or where he says… ‘Worship me’. ­­­­­­Infect if you read the Bible,
        As it is, you are determined to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God (John 8: 40)
        They do blaspheme who say: “God is Christ the son of Mary.” But said Christ: “O Children of Israel! worship God, my Lord and your Lord.” Whoever joins other gods with God,- God will forbid him the garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. [005:072] Al-Quran.

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          I am He; none will go to the Father except thru me

        2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          alef lam mim starts 6 verses of koran; what do they mean? lol answer my questions and do not copy and paste parroting stupidities you do not understand

          these refer to the alpha and omega assuming the syro aramaic origin of the koran

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          tayyyyar10452

          Jesus: I am the alpha and the omega; i am the beginning and the end

          lol

        4. Hannibal Avatar

          You are made with flesh and spirit… Jesus is made of flesh and the Spirit of God… The Quran says so… (wa nafa5na fiihi min rouhina)… When He casts devils and heals the sick, He does so with the power of the Spirit and not the flesh.

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    @tayyyyar10452:disqus “Behold! Allah said:  O Jesus!  I will take thee And raise thee to Myself And clear thee (of the falsehoods) Of those who blaspheme; I will make those Who follow thee superior To those who reject faith, To the Day of Resurrection:  Then shall ye all return unto me, And I will judge Between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.”   Quran 3:55 

    Here we see that Allah Almighty promised Jesus(peace be upon him) to raise him to heaven.  Jesus was charged by the Jews with blasphemy as claiming to be God or the son of God.  The Christians (except a few early sects which were annihilated by persecution, and the modern sect of Unitarians), adopted the substance of the claim, and made it the cornerstone of their faith.  Allah Almighty clears Jesus of such a charge or claim.  Those who follow Jesus are the Muslims and the Christians who don’t believe he is God.

    1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      in koran, issa is already in the realm of allah; actually the koran gives to issa godly powers: issa is the only koranic prophet who has created life by blowing into clay, creating a bird; actually the aden manuscripts found in an old mosk while prospecting for petroleum prove that arabic is not the language of the koran and that your salafi interpretation is erroneous: the houris are just grapes: i refer you to gabriel sawma: the koran misread, mistranslated and misinterpreted; you can find this book written by this great assyrian professor of arameic, languages and history on amazon

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    @tayyyyar10452:disqus “Behold! Allah said:  O Jesus!  I will take thee And raise thee to Myself And clear thee (of the falsehoods) Of those who blaspheme; I will make those Who follow thee superior To those who reject faith, To the Day of Resurrection:  Then shall ye all return unto me, And I will judge Between you of the matters wherein ye dispute.”   Quran 3:55 

    Here we see that Allah Almighty promised Jesus(peace be upon him) to raise him to heaven.  Jesus was charged by the Jews with blasphemy as claiming to be God or the son of God.  The Christians (except a few early sects which were annihilated by persecution, and the modern sect of Unitarians), adopted the substance of the claim, and made it the cornerstone of their faith.  Allah Almighty clears Jesus of such a charge or claim.  Those who follow Jesus are the Muslims and the Christians who don’t believe he is God.

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      tayyyyar10452

      in koran, issa is already in the realm of allah; actually the koran gives to issa godly powers: issa is the only koranic prophet who has created life by blowing into clay, creating a bird; actually the aden manuscripts found in an old mosk while prospecting for petroleum prove that arabic is not the language of the koran and that your salafi interpretation is erroneous: the houris are just grapes: i refer you to gabriel sawma: the koran misread, mistranslated and misinterpreted; you can find this book written by this great assyrian professor of arameic, languages and history on amazon

  17. wargame1 Avatar

    @tayyyyar10452:disqus 

    There are some Christian sects such as the Basilidans, the Docetate and the Marcionite do not believe that Jesus was put on the cross.

     “So peace is upon me [Jesus] the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life.” Quran 19:33 

    There is a similar Verse to 19:33 in the Noble Quran that was mentioned to another Messenger of GOD:

     “So peace on him [Yahya, or John the Baptist] the day he was born, the day that he dies, and the day that he will be raised up to life!  (Quran, 19:15)”
      

    This Verse 19:15 is similar to 19:33, where it does not at all state that any Messenger of GOD was crucified or will die twice!.  The reason why no Messenger of GOD will ever die twice is because Allah Almighty said clearly in His Noble Book that every soul He creates (this includes all of His Messengers and Prophets even Jesus) shall taste death once;  

    “Nor will they [all humans who end up in heaven] there taste death, except the first death; and He will preserve them from the penalty of the blazing fire.   (Quran, 44:56)”

    The Quran is clear the Jesus didn’t die and yet to return on earth. Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) conformed that too. Jesus will return in Damascus , He will marry , he will have children and then he will die on Earth and will be resurrected on the day of Judgement like every other human being. So do not try to play with the single verse of the Quran. and try to manipulate it.

    1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      read sourat mariam 33

  18. wargame1 Avatar

    @tayyyyar10452:disqus 

    There are some Christian sects such as the Basilidans, the Docetate and the Marcionite do not believe that Jesus was put on the cross.

     “So peace is upon me [Jesus] the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life.” Quran 19:33 

    There is a similar Verse to 19:33 in the Noble Quran that was mentioned to another Messenger of GOD:

     “So peace on him [Yahya, or John the Baptist] the day he was born, the day that he dies, and the day that he will be raised up to life!  (Quran, 19:15)”
      

    This Verse 19:15 is similar to 19:33, where it does not at all state that any Messenger of GOD was crucified or will die twice!.  The reason why no Messenger of GOD will ever die twice is because Allah Almighty said clearly in His Noble Book that every soul He creates (this includes all of His Messengers and Prophets even Jesus) shall taste death once;  

    “Nor will they [all humans who end up in heaven] there taste death, except the first death; and He will preserve them from the penalty of the blazing fire.   (Quran, 44:56)”

    The Quran is clear the Jesus didn’t die and yet to return on earth. Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon him) conformed that too. Jesus will return in Damascus , He will marry , he will have children and then he will die on Earth and will be resurrected on the day of Judgement like every other human being. So do not try to play with the single verse of the Quran. and try to manipulate it.

    1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      read sourat mariam 33

  19. wargame1 Avatar

    @hbarca:disqus 
    you are now jumping to another direction but I would love to stick with the argument right on the subject on Jesus(peace be upon him) however I would like point out that your so called civilization has nothing to do with the teaching of Jesus nor anything from Islam either. 

    There are 25 million sodomites alone in USA and pornography , prostitution , high crime , Usery based banking which was directly opposed by Jesus ,drug abuse , high divorce rate , the woman sleep with as many as 8 man before they marry on average  The list is too high and I would like to bring it on after the topic of Jesus. In Afghanistan these civilized government just pass the law that bestiality is permissible among the US army personnel .

    Now if you see the leaders of the middle eastern countries who effectively are calling the shot are shia (most of them if not all. The sunnis are 93% world wide whereas the shias are less than 7% , so these are the chosen leaders by the self appointed guardian of the world. When one of the Shia leaders are in trouble then the whole world come to its aid and when a sunni leader challenge the atrocities then they are quickly taken down with the help of Iran. This is one of the main reasons of the shity governance around the Muslim world. Lebanon is also a good example where the Shia Hezbushaitan is calling the shot. 

    1. Hannibal Avatar

      who said the U.S. is Christian? It is not!!!!

      1. wargame1 Avatar

        I do acknowledge that the modern so called Christians are not really Christians but they do have church and they do call themselves Christians. But I do separate them and never try to bash a christian for the evil deeds they do. 

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          tayyyyar10452

          since the pact of omar, the khoulafa’ stopped killing kouffars and reduced them to dhimmis; ahl al zimma; it is better to make them work for you and tax them heavily for their work, like slaves, rather than kill them; anyhow you will kill them whenever you want and for no reason; let them pay the jizya while being treated as slaves with no rights

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          tayyyyar10452

          5th is one of the dhimmis of this salafi blog

      2. wargame1 Avatar

        Let me tell you some truth about Afghanistan

        Ten years after Tony Blair pledged that wiping out the drug was one of the main reasons for invading the country.
        Despite spending £18billion and a conflict which has so far cost the lives of almost 400 British troops, production of the class-A drug by Afghan farmers rose between 2001 and 2011 from just 185 tons to a staggering 5,800 tons.

        Cutting the supply of heroin was one of the prime reasons given by then-prime minister Tony Blair in 2001 for sending in British troops.Bush called it a war on Drug!!!
        It was the Taliban who put a ban on this drug cultivation and burnt the poppy field. Now do you know who do the poppy cultivation with the aid of the occupation force? 

        It is the Shia Northern Alliance with the direct supervision of the occupation force. and this was one of the reasons to invade Afghanistan. These drug goes to Europe ,America and around the world destroys many lives and generates more than 200 billion US dollar which is directly injected in to the stock market. So what if Talibans are back? It will have a reverse effect and a ultimate collapse of the stock market but there will be less drugs for the coming generations. 

        But you are more interested on Malalalalalal , I am sure you were outraged by Malalalal fraud. Talibans dubut happened by hanging some rapist under the Russian Tank who captured the young girls. Who are they? The Russian stooge shia northern Alliance. People went to Mullah Omer and he freed those girls and the movement became popular; Now do you believe that Taliban shot malalalal? 

        Now take a look in Lebanon , who controls the drug cultivation in Lebanon? Hezbushaitan.  Same shia and do you see the connection with those shia northern alliance  who also do the drug dealing? 

        It is welknown that CIA do the drug dealing world wide and their shia foot solders are active producing it in Lebanon and in Afghanistan. But you are still very sad about malalalalalala. Marry malalalalal.

      3. wargame1 Avatar

        Well from the prophesy I have understood that Bashar Al-Qaeda is destined to be killed by Al Mahdi. Mahdi is not a name but its the title i.e. the Guided one. We do not know yet who this man can be but he is NOT a superstitious figure rather a simple human being and certainly NOT hiding in a cave for the last 1300 years.

        Therefore if this is the case then Bashar is still to live till the Mahdi arrives in Syria. The main army of the mahdi initially will be the Afghan Mujaheddin so you may expect them in Syria in the future. According to my analysis Bashar is the second tyrant and his daddy was the first. Maher is a candidate too but I think it is Bashar. So the war in Syria is a long one.

        But mid 2013 will kick off of the end time and we may see some unusual development around greater Syria. End time is not dooms day as Jesus said none of us know that day except the Father or Abba (Allah) and Islamic teaching is the same. 

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          ABBA had the greatest music … and watching those women on stage was incredible.

      4. wargame1 Avatar

        Abdullah ibn Hawalah said: The Messenger of Allah(peace be upon him)said:

         “Matters will run their course until you become three armies: an army in AshSham (Syria), an army in ‘Iraq, and an army in the Yemen.” I said: “O Messenger of Allah, which one I should join ? ” He said: “You should go to AshSham, for it is the best of Allah’s lands, and the best of His servants will be drawn to there. If you do not (go to AshSham), go to the Yemen and drink from its wells. For Allah has guaranteed me that He will look after AshSham and its people.” (Abu Dawud)
         

  20. wargame1 Avatar

    @hbarca:disqus 
    you are now jumping to another direction but I would love to stick with the argument right on the subject on Jesus(peace be upon him) however I would like point out that your so called civilization has nothing to do with the teaching of Jesus nor anything from Islam either. 

    There are 25 million sodomites alone in USA and pornography , prostitution , high crime , Usery based banking which was directly opposed by Jesus ,drug abuse , high divorce rate , the woman sleep with as many as 8 man before they marry on average  The list is too high and I would like to bring it on after the topic of Jesus. In Afghanistan these civilized government just pass the law that bestiality is permissible among the US army personnel .

    Now if you see the leaders of the middle eastern countries who effectively are calling the shot are shia (most of them if not all. The sunnis are 93% world wide whereas the shias are less than 7% , so these are the chosen leaders by the self appointed guardian of the world. When one of the Shia leaders are in trouble then the whole world come to its aid and when a sunni leader challenge the atrocities then they are quickly taken down with the help of Iran. This is one of the main reasons of the shity governance around the Muslim world. Lebanon is also a good example where the Shia Hezbushaitan is calling the shot. 

    1. Hannibal Avatar

      who said the U.S. is Christian? It is not!!!!

      1. wargame1 Avatar

        I do acknowledge that the modern so called Christians are not really Christians but they do have church and they do call themselves Christians. But I do separate them and never try to bash a christian for the evil deeds they do. 

        1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          since the pact of omar, the khoulafa’ stopped killing kouffars and reduced them to dhimmis; ahl al zimma; it is better to make them work for you and tax them heavily for their work, like slaves, rather than kill them; anyhow you will kill them whenever you want and for no reason; let them pay the jizya while being treated as slaves with no rights

        2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
          tayyyyar10452

          5th is one of the dhimmis of this salafi blog

      2. wargame1 Avatar

        Let me tell you some truth about Afghanistan

        Ten years after Tony Blair pledged that wiping out the drug was one of the main reasons for invading the country.
        Despite spending £18billion and a conflict which has so far cost the lives of almost 400 British troops, production of the class-A drug by Afghan farmers rose between 2001 and 2011 from just 185 tons to a staggering 5,800 tons.

        Cutting the supply of heroin was one of the prime reasons given by then-prime minister Tony Blair in 2001 for sending in British troops.Bush called it a war on Drug!!!
        It was the Taliban who put a ban on this drug cultivation and burnt the poppy field. Now do you know who do the poppy cultivation with the aid of the occupation force? 

        It is the Shia Northern Alliance with the direct supervision of the occupation force. and this was one of the reasons to invade Afghanistan. These drug goes to Europe ,America and around the world destroys many lives and generates more than 200 billion US dollar which is directly injected in to the stock market. So what if Talibans are back? It will have a reverse effect and a ultimate collapse of the stock market but there will be less drugs for the coming generations. 

        But you are more interested on Malalalalalal , I am sure you were outraged by Malalalal fraud. Talibans dubut happened by hanging some rapist under the Russian Tank who captured the young girls. Who are they? The Russian stooge shia northern Alliance. People went to Mullah Omer and he freed those girls and the movement became popular; Now do you believe that Taliban shot malalalal? 

        Now take a look in Lebanon , who controls the drug cultivation in Lebanon? Hezbushaitan.  Same shia and do you see the connection with those shia northern alliance  who also do the drug dealing? 

        It is welknown that CIA do the drug dealing world wide and their shia foot solders are active producing it in Lebanon and in Afghanistan. But you are still very sad about malalalalalala. Marry malalalalal.

      3. wargame1 Avatar

        Well from the prophesy I have understood that Bashar Al-Qaeda is destined to be killed by Al Mahdi. Mahdi is not a name but its the title i.e. the Guided one. We do not know yet who this man can be but he is NOT a superstitious figure rather a simple human being and certainly NOT hiding in a cave for the last 1300 years.

        Therefore if this is the case then Bashar is still to live till the Mahdi arrives in Syria. The main army of the mahdi initially will be the Afghan Mujaheddin so you may expect them in Syria in the future. According to my analysis Bashar is the second tyrant and his daddy was the first. Maher is a candidate too but I think it is Bashar. So the war in Syria is a long one.

        But mid 2013 will kick off of the end time and we may see some unusual development around greater Syria. End time is not dooms day as Jesus said none of us know that day except the Father or Abba (Allah) and Islamic teaching is the same. 

        1. 5thDrawer Avatar

          ABBA had the greatest music … and watching those women on stage was incredible.

      4. wargame1 Avatar

        Abdullah ibn Hawalah said: The Messenger of Allah(peace be upon him)said:

         “Matters will run their course until you become three armies: an army in AshSham (Syria), an army in ‘Iraq, and an army in the Yemen.” I said: “O Messenger of Allah, which one I should join ? ” He said: “You should go to AshSham, for it is the best of Allah’s lands, and the best of His servants will be drawn to there. If you do not (go to AshSham), go to the Yemen and drink from its wells. For Allah has guaranteed me that He will look after AshSham and its people.” (Abu Dawud)
         

  21. wargame1 Avatar

    @hbarca:disqus 
    Jesus will descend according to Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon them) and we will see how that happens. Now if you want some advance answer then first of all read the bible on how he was ascended then it will be easy for you to imagine the descension of Jesus. 

    Jesus(Peace be upon him) will descend on the Eastern Minaret of the Grand Mosque in Damascus or in Bab Touma a place around Damascus according to some Scholars opinion.The first thing he does is perform the morning prayer. And before his descension the Antichrist will appear physically.These event are going to happen in the distant future possibly in 2022 according to some Muslim analyst. Jesus will kill the Antichrist near the gate of Lod (Currently Bengorian Airport in Israel).
    Now tell me how Jesus will descend according to the bible.

    1. Hannibal Avatar

      I’d rather have Him descend in the presidential palace in Damascus and kill the anti-Christ residing there… That will solve half of the problem.

      1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
        tayyyyar10452

        brother; we as christians do not believe in killing; leave this to the salafis & to the seculars; Jesus certainly wouldnt kill annyone; He is GOD

      2. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
        Mahdi Kenaani

        yeah but i think the white house would be a better option

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          Now we need two Christs… 😛

      3. PeaceintheME Avatar
        PeaceintheME

        Come on Hannibal, this anti Christ in Damascus you are talking about is the Christians last hope of survival in Syria. Also in relation to your above blog, I ask that you please don’t tarnish all Muslims with the same brush. Their are good and bad in all races brother including Christians.

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          Religious fanatics get to me… Then I backfire… You are right I do not mean all.

        2. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          but there are already two. one of them is called jesus and the other is called mahdi 😀

    2. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      4:24: a3touhounna oujourahounna lima istamta3tom bihi
      lol
      can you dwell on this please?
      a salafi brother of yours told me it means women are b….
      is that true?

      1. Hannibal Avatar

        It sounds like prostitution to me… I wish someone explains this sura to me.

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar

        beautiful … usually.

    3. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Sounds a little scripted … Circus Soleil entrance is good … perform, action … and exit stage left. (Wild applause)

  22. wargame1 Avatar

    @hbarca:disqus 
    Jesus will descend according to Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon them) and we will see how that happens. Now if you want some advance answer then first of all read the bible on how he was ascended then it will be easy for you to imagine the descension of Jesus. 

    Jesus(Peace be upon him) will descend on the Eastern Minaret of the Grand Mosque in Damascus or in Bab Touma a place around Damascus according to some Scholars opinion.The first thing he does is perform the morning prayer. And before his descension the Antichrist will appear physically.These event are going to happen in the distant future possibly in 2022 according to some Muslim analyst. Jesus will kill the Antichrist near the gate of Lod (Currently Bengorian Airport in Israel).
    Now tell me how Jesus will descend according to the bible.

  23. wargame1 Avatar

    @hbarca:disqus 
    Jesus will descend according to Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon them) and we will see how that happens. Now if you want some advance answer then first of all read the bible on how he was ascended then it will be easy for you to imagine the descension of Jesus. 

    Jesus(Peace be upon him) will descend on the Eastern Minaret of the Grand Mosque in Damascus or in Bab Touma a place around Damascus according to some Scholars opinion.The first thing he does is perform the morning prayer. And before his descension the Antichrist will appear physically.These event are going to happen in the distant future possibly in 2022 according to some Muslim analyst. Jesus will kill the Antichrist near the gate of Lod (Currently Bengorian Airport in Israel).
    Now tell me how Jesus will descend according to the bible.

    1. Hannibal Avatar

      I’d rather have Him descend in the presidential palace in Damascus and kill the anti-Christ residing there… That will solve half of the problem.

      1. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
        tayyyyar10452

        brother; we as christians do not believe in killing; leave this to the salafis & to the seculars; Jesus certainly wouldnt kill annyone; He is GOD

      2. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
        Mahdi Kenaani

        yeah but i think the white house would be a better option

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          Now we need two Christs… 😛

      3. PeaceintheME Avatar
        PeaceintheME

        Come on Hannibal, this anti Christ in Damascus you are talking about is the Christians last hope of survival in Syria. Also in relation to your above blog, I ask that you please don’t tarnish all Muslims with the same brush. Their are good and bad in all races brother including Christians.

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          Religious fanatics get to me… Then I backfire… You are right I do not mean all.

        2. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          but there are already two. one of them is called jesus and the other is called mahdi 😀

    2. Hannibal Avatar

      I’d rather have Him descend in the presidential palace in Damascus and kill the anti-Christ residing there… That will solve half of the problem.

    3. tayyyyar10452 Avatar
      tayyyyar10452

      4:24: a3touhounna oujourahounna lima istamta3tom bihi
      lol
      can you dwell on this please?
      a salafi brother of yours told me it means women are b….
      is that true?

      1. Hannibal Avatar

        It sounds like prostitution to me… I wish someone explains this sura to me.

      2. 5thDrawer Avatar

        beautiful … usually.

    4. 5thDrawer Avatar

      Sounds a little scripted … Circus Soleil entrance is good … perform, action … and exit stage left. (Wild applause)

  24. wargame1 Avatar

    @hbarca:disqus 
    Bin Ladens mother was a Syrian Alawite/Nusayries. But the Muslims love him because he was not involved in 911. USA government never indicted him for this crime and he is not even a suspect on that crime. All the car bomb , beheading etc are done by Iran and Syrian regime in the name of Al Qaeda. This action demonize the Muslim resistance against the occupation force. You take it just as the media shove it in your brain. But now it is evident that these false flag operation is the work of Iranian majoosis, Hezbushaitan and the Syrian Fag Assad.

    I ask who benefit from this evil action? Its the occupation force and their Shia Lackey and they continue their illegal invasion and install shia puppet. Killing civilians is forbidden in Islam so the Muslims do follow the commandments therefore your false accusation will have no effect but it will give you some pleasure.

  25. wargame1 Avatar

    @hbarca:disqus 
    Bin Ladens mother was a Syrian Alawite/Nusayries. But the Muslims love him because he was not involved in 911. USA government never indicted him for this crime and he is not even a suspect on that crime. All the car bomb , beheading etc are done by Iran and Syrian regime in the name of Al Qaeda. This action demonize the Muslim resistance against the occupation force. You take it just as the media shove it in your brain. But now it is evident that these false flag operation is the work of Iranian majoosis, Hezbushaitan and the Syrian Fag Assad.

    I ask who benefit from this evil action? Its the occupation force and their Shia Lackey and they continue their illegal invasion and install shia puppet. Killing civilians is forbidden in Islam so the Muslims do follow the commandments therefore your false accusation will have no effect but it will give you some pleasure.

  26. PeaceintheME Avatar
    PeaceintheME

    Hannibal, do not take Wargame serious. His hate for all that is not Salifi is quite obvious. I am a Muslim, however disagree with all he says. Any Muslim who doesn’t respect other religions in my opinion is a infidel brother. We are all brothers and sisters in the eyes of God. Something we can never escape from. Poor Waregame and company will spend all their lives trying to escape.

    1. Hannibal Avatar

      Moslems like you make me want to pray side by side with them… 🙂

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        My knees wouldn’t take it …. 😉

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          Now I know your age 😉 But really I often wondered what is expected of a moslem with damaged knees?

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Well Hannibal, the carpet-layers were pretty thick the one time I was a ‘tourist’ in the Damascus biggie, and I figured the ‘mosque-cop’ with the stick probably beat the back of the knees until they bent far enough. 😉
          Nowadays (modern) they probably have a foam-under area where they just push you over to lie prostrated … until the ‘mosque-cop’ allows your women-folk into ‘the male zone’ to pick you up …
          But I’m not going back to try it. I’d be lying there for a long time. :-)))

    2. Prophettttt Avatar
      Prophettttt

      well said.peace.All of these twisted minded fanatics have to remember that No one is born a  Muslim or christian or Jew  People are born to families that raise them to believe in what ever faith they were taught to believe  We are all  brothers and sisters in our humanity.

    3.  And your hate for anything “salafi” is quite obvious!

  27. PeaceintheME Avatar
    PeaceintheME

    Hannibal, do not take Wargame serious. His hate for all that is not Salifi is quite obvious. I am a Muslim, however disagree with all he says. Any Muslim who doesn’t respect other religions in my opinion is a infidel brother. We are all brothers and sisters in the eyes of God. Something we can never escape from. Poor Waregame and company will spend all their lives trying to escape.

    1. Hannibal Avatar

      Moslems like you make me want to pray side by side with them… 🙂

      1. 5thDrawer Avatar

        My knees wouldn’t take it …. 😉

        1. Hannibal Avatar

          Now I know your age 😉 But really I often wondered what is expected of a moslem with damaged knees?

        2. 5thDrawer Avatar

          Well Hannibal, the carpet-layers were pretty thick the one time I was a ‘tourist’ in the Damascus biggie, and I figured the ‘mosque-cop’ with the stick probably beat the back of the knees until they bent far enough. 😉
          Nowadays they probably have a foam-under area where they just push you over to lie prostrated … until the ‘mosque-cop’ allows your women-folk into the zone to pick you up …
          but I’m not going back to try it. :-)))

    2. Prophettttt Avatar
      Prophettttt

      well said.peace.All of these twisted minded fanatics have to remember that No one is born a  Muslim or christian or Jew  People are born to families that raise them to believe in what ever faith they were taught to believe  We are all  brothers and sisters in our humanity.

    3.  And your hate for anything “salafi” is quite obvious!

  28. ExpandThe “Muslim revolution” is right , is brave, is Just, . Christians must stop critizing the true muslim system , and start workin with to live with it. Sitting on the fence in silent inaction while the evil regime kils, rapes and tortures is nothing to be proud of. if drinking wine ,clubbing and unpunishable adultery is your only freedom concern, then bring it out in the open for discussion,.you cannot because it is shameful. So REPENT or make your way to a sin city. There is no place for that in the holy lands. What make a land holy is not it material nature, but the brave, kind and pious hearts of its people.And may it’s land be cleansed of all evil. Muslims are the true followers of JESUS and they are being persecuted for it.Matthew 10:34. “Do not think that I came to bring peace on
    earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.35 “For I have come
    to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a
    daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’;36 “and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’

  29. ExpandThe “Muslim revolution” is right , is brave, is Just, . Christians must stop critizing the true muslim system , and start workin with to live with it. Sitting on the fence in silent inaction while the evil regime kils, rapes and tortures is nothing to be proud of. if drinking wine ,clubbing and unpunishable adultery is your only freedom concern, then bring it out in the open for discussion,.you cannot because it is shameful. So REPENT or make your way to a sin city. There is no place for that in the holy lands. What make a land holy is not it material nature, but the brave, kind and pious hearts of its people.And may it’s land be cleansed of all evil. Muslims are the true followers of JESUS and they are being persecuted for it.Matthew 10:34. “Do not think that I came to bring peace on
    earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword.35 “For I have come
    to ‘set a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a
    daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’;36 “and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’

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