Population, Sustainability and Fertility.

By Ghassan Karam, Special to Ya Libnan

Most Lebanese, that I know , are surprised when I tell them that Lebanon is one of the most densely populated countries of the world.Most cannot even accept it since they often associate, wrongly, such countries as China, India, Nigeria and Belgium with high density.

Officially Lebanon (404/sq. km) is the 25th most densly populated political entity in the world . But if one is to keep very special and small entities such as The Vatican, Gibraltor, Guernsey, San Marino and Nauru out of the rankings then Lebanon can easily become the 10th or the 15th most populated country in the planet. India has a population density of 358 per sq. km while China stands at 139. If the current population density of Lebanon is become the global average then the population of the world would have to rise to a mind numbing 60 billion individuals.
One does not need to be a Neo Malthusian to recognize that there comes a point when human population growth becomes highly undesirable to say the least.  If the projected 10 billion humans by 2050 are not enough then what is? Is it another doubling to 20 billion or maybe a further doubling still to 40 billion? Does Lebanon have the right to complain about the rapid rate of growth in global poulation when it is one of the biggest abuser of this metric?

Most, and possibly all, of those that have looked into this issue and investigated the potential limits seriously have concluded that we are already beyond any metric of sustainability. This only means that we have overshot the carrying capacity of the ecosystem and as a result we have to take measures that will reverse our current course. Lebanese dependence on the rest of the world for its food, energy, capital, employment opportunitiesand energy is so clearly visible to all that no one will question it. Yet we keep on growing by increasing our dependence on other ecosystems. Is that responsible behaviour?

But what is it that needs to be done if we are to reduce fertility substantially? Surely we cannot stand by as idle spectators and hope that  humans will decide to change their behaviour drastically just because that is good for the ecosystem? Had this been the case then they would have done so a long time ago. So what we are left with is the absolute certainty that human population must stop growing and preferably even start to decline. Studies have shown that if the world population is to adopt the lifestyles and diet of the West then we need six planets when we have only one. Forty Lebanons will be needed if we are to apply the same standard to the resources of Lebanon.  This clearly shows that we have exceeded our limited carrying capacity and thus the current state of affairs is not sustainable.

If it is deemed to be too risky to count on a voluntary change in behaviour then the only other alternative to reduce the rate of fertility would be a direct and sustained government policy aimed at achieving lower fertility rates. There are a number of actions that the government can adopt that will act to internalize the negative externality of high fertility such as taxes, social expenditures and even outright strict limits on the number of successful pregnancies per female.  But is the world ready to deal with this most basic and challenging problem? Is Lebanon ready to adopt a meaningful population policy? I will not hold my breath.

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  • http://YALIBNAN.com Dalal

    Population growth around the world is not the problem nor global resources.there are plenty of food and wealth around the globe for everyone to share but capitalism and globalisation mean some will live extremely better at the expence of others..
    Studies shown in India the poor have more children not because they want to but rather need to insure a source of support in old age when they have no means whatsoever in providing for themselves.
    If only mankind can share..we dont need to have the living standards of the west…Our Earth has plenty for all..no place for greed and supremacy, and no need for another seven planets to fund our short existence and fuel human arrogance and power..If only humans can share!!!

  • http://rationalrepublic.blogspot.com Ghassan Karam

    Dalal,
    Capitalism, which forms the foundation of the dominant paradigm is not sustainable. That is clear. What is also clear is that the lifestyle of the developed countries cannot become global . But that does not mean that the inequality in the world should persist. On the contrary , this should be viewed as a call to redistribute the wealth. So far we are in total agreement.
    But the world does not have unlimited resources neither adequate food supplies to provide a decent living standard for the almost 7 billion people that will become 9 billion in 40 years. We have no choice but to restrict the “right” to procreate.

  • http://RottenLebaneseSectarianSystem Sebouh Akharjalian

    Dear Mr. Karam,

    Thank you for bringing the all important topic Population, Sustainability and Fertility in Lebanon.
    Today Lebanon has a population of an estimate of more than 4.2 million people and our current population density is believed to be 404 per km2 that is ten times greather than world population density which is around 45.66 per km2.
    This is an extremely unsustainable path that if this trend continues will result into further water cotamination, food scarcity and deforestation of our remianing forests.
    Finally, if Lebanon wants to survive then what is needed is a radical shift in our living standards. Ways of living more sustainably can take many forms from reorganising living conditions. For example, ecovillages, eco-municipalties and sustainable cities, reappraising economic sectors permaculture, green building, sustainable agriculture, or work practices sustainable architecture and most importantly introducing green technologies, renewable energy, and adjustments in individual lifestyles that conserve natural resources.
    Lastly, concerning the fertilty issue the government must counter this problem by annoucing a new law that taxes all Lebanese households who plan to bring more than two children.

    Although these ideas might seem too radical for a country like Lebanon, but this is the only way to save this country from ecological disaster.

  • http://rationalrepublic.blogspot.com Ghassan Karam

    Sebouh,
    What is ironic is that Lebanon considers itself a “Tourist Country” whose major natural endowment is its environment but yet we proceed to destroy the major asset that we have!!! Go figure.
    The tax idea has been implemented with success in a few countries.
    Surprisingly though, or maybe not so surprisingly, empowerment of women has also been very effective all over the world. Gender equity, control over her body and formal education can decrease the fertility rate substantially.

  • Louay Faour

    These articles just get better and better. Really, is this SUCH an issue in Lebanon more than anything else!? BH

  • http://rationalrepublic.blogspot.com Ghassan Karam

    Louay,
    Make no mistake about it the aggregate is nothing but the sum of the parts. In this case Lebanon is one of the countries that has exceeded its carrying capacity the most. In a sense its survival is totally dependent on gifts from other eco systems.
    Ultimately there is no issue, whether it is water, food, energy or capital that can be addressed in a meaningful way until the population problem is addressed.

  • nader

    All Readers:

    I think if the gov. health and education services were distributed and present in an effective matter in major cities movement to beirut and suburbs will be less stressed. and the demand on these services will equally distributed through out the country; as in Italy, turkey and other stabel countries in teh region.

    thank you.

  • Bachir

    “The common enemy of humanity is man.
    In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
    with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
    water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
    dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
    changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
    The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”
    - Club of Rome

    http://green-agenda.com/

    It is a fact that 5% of the Global population controls 95% of the global resources.

    The overpopulation myth was created by them in order to have an excuse, a reason to give us for their further theft of the planet’s resources.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6350303.ece

  • Bachir

    Some depopulation quote by the Elite Globalists. Some such as Dr Kissinger are war criminals in many countries for having funded genocides. Enjoy!!

    If anybody you talk to wonders if there are people who would possibly consider depopulation, here’s a few quotes to throw at them.

    “Society has no business to permit degenerates to reproduce their kind”
    Theodore Roosevelt

    “Malthus has been vindicated; reality is finally catching up with Malthus. The Third World is overpopulated, it’s an economic mess, and there’s no way they could get out of it with this fast-growing population. Our philosophy is: back to the village.”
    Dr. Arne Schiotz, World Wildlife Fund Director of Conservation, stated such, ironically, in 1984:

    “A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
    Ted Turner, in an interview with Audubon magazine

    “There is a single theme behind all our work–we must reduce population levels. Either governments do it our way, through nice clean methods, or they will get the kinds of mess that we have in El Salvador, or in Iran or in Beirut. Population is a political problem. Once population is out of control, it requires authoritarian government, even fascism, to reduce it….” “Our program in El Salvador didn’t work. The infrastructure was not there to support it. There were just too goddamned many people…. To really reduce population, quickly, you have to pull all the males into the fighting and you have to kill significant numbers of fertile age females….” The quickest way to reduce population is through famine, like in Africa, or through disease like the Black Death….
    Thomas Ferguson, State Department Office of Population Affairs

    “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill…. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap of mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”
    Alexander King, Bertrand Schneider – Founder and Secretary, respectively, The Club of Rome, The First Global Revolution, pgs 104-105, 1991

    A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people…. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions.
    Stanford Professor ” Paul Ehrlich in The Population Bomb

    “In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it.”
    J. Cousteau, 1991 explorer and UNESCO courier

    I believe that human overpopulation is the fundamental problem on Earth Today” and, “We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox.”
    Dave Foreman, Sierra Club and co founder of Earth First!

    “We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.”
    Mikhail Gorbachev

    “Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government.”
    Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evians, France, 1991

    The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer.
    Dr. Henry Kissinger New York Times, Oct. 28, 1973

    Depopulation should be the highest priority of foreign policy towards the third world, because the US economy will require large and increasing amounts of minerals from abroad, especially from less developed countries”.
    Dr. Henry Kissinger

    “Power is the ultimate aphrodisiac,” and “The elderly are useless eaters”
    Dr. Henry Kissinger

    “World population needs to be decreased by 50%”
    Dr. Henry Kissinger

    “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.”
    David Rockefeller

    “War and famine would not do. Instead, disease offered the most efficient and fastest way to kill the billions that must soon die if the population crisis is to be solved. AIDS is not an efficient killer because it is too slow. My favorite candidate for eliminating 90 percent of the world’s population is airborne Ebola (Ebola Reston), because it is both highly lethal and it kills in days, instead of years. “We’ve got airborne diseases with 90 percent mortality in humans. Killing humans. Think about that. “You know, the bird flu’s good, too. For everyone who survives, he will have to bury nine”
    Dr. Eric Pianka University of Texas evolutionary ecologist and lizard expert, showed solutions for reducing the world’s population to an audience on population control

    “No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation.”
    David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

    “The present vast overpopulation, now far beyond the world carrying capacity, cannot be answered by future reductions in the birth rate due to contraception, sterilization and abortion, but must be met in the present by the reduction of numbers presently existing. This must be done by whatever means necessary.”
    Initiative for the United Nations ECO-92 EARTH CHARTER

    “In South America, the government of Peru goes door to door pressuring women to be sterilized and they are funded by American tax dollars to do this.”
    Mark Earley in The Wrong Kind of Party Christian Post 10/27 2008

    Women in the Netherlands who are deemed by the state to be unfit mothers should be sentenced to take contraception for a prescribed period of two years.”
    Marjo Van Dijken (author of the bill in the Netherlands) in the Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/nov/04/humanrights-women

    “Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature”
    Anonymously commissioned Georgia Guidestones

    “If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”
    Prince Phillip, Queen Elizabeth’s husband, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund

    Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.”
    David Brower, first Executive Director of the Sierra Club

    “The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes.”
    Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes

    “Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don’t want to have too many of.”
    Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg

    “The Planetary Regime might be given responsibility for determining the optimum population for the world and for each region and for arbitrating various countries’ shares within their regional limits. Control of population size might remain the responsibility of each government, but the Regime would have some power to enforce the agreed limits.”
    Obama’s Science czar John P. Holdren: From a book he helped write ‘Ecoscience’

    “The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all under their control…. Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and incredibly evil in intent.”
    Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that was shot down by the Soviet Union

    http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/08/07/will-there-be-depopulation-by-inoculation-asks-david-hodges/

    http://curezone.com/forums/fm.asp?i=1479057

  • Bachir

    Sustainable Development – A Wolf in Sheep’s Clothing

    On my Home Page the influential leaders who have been actively guiding the emergence of the environmental movement described their true beliefs and agenda in their own words. But how can they possibly bring about the global political, economic, social and religious transformation they desire? The tool employed must be so potent and pervasive that it reaches into every area of society, from local community groups to sovereign governments and multinational corporations. It must have the power to enforce binding international agreements, exert stringent controls over human activities and yet still be acceptable to the general population. It must become so entrenched in legislation and business practice that its necessity is barely questioned.

    Such a tool exists. They have been carefully shaping and nurturing its progress for decades. It is known as the doctrine of Sustainable Development. We are all aware of need to address environmental problems such as water and air pollution, and dwindling natural resources, but Sustainable Development is exerting draconian controls and influence far beyond those required for effective environmental management.

    The concept of ‘environmental sustainability’ was first brought to widespread public attention in 1972 by the Club of Rome in their book entitled The Limits to Growth. The official summary can be read here. The report basically concluded that the growth of the human population, and an increase in prosperity, would cause an ecological collapse within the fifty years. The book is considered to be the most successful environmental publication ever produced and propelled the Club of Rome to its current position of an environmental thought-leader and a major consultant to the United Nations.

    It has been translated into more than forty languages and sold more than 15 million copies. Throughout the 1970s and 80s the concept that humanity was irreparably damaging the earth gained credence and facilitated the formation of mainstream and activist environmental groups. As discussed in a previous article the Club of Rome has been calling for “a Masterplan to guide world development” since its very inception.

    In Nature organic growth proceeds according to a Master Plan, a Blueprint. According to this master plan diversification among cells is determined by the requirements of the various organs; the size and shape of the organs and, therefore, their growth processes are determined by their function, which in turn depends on the needs of the whole organism. Such a ‘master plan’ is missing from the process of growth and development of the world system. Now is the time to draw up a master plan for organic sustainable growth and world development based on global allocation of all finite resources and a new global economic system. ” – Mankind at the Turning Point, CoR, 1974

    Interestingly, just prior to the birth of “Sustainable Development” a well-dressed, articulate man visited a small construction company in Georgia, USA, and announced that he wanted to build an edifice to transmit a message to mankind. He said that he represented a group of men who wanted to offer direction to humanity, but to date, more than two decades later, no one knows who he really was, or who he represented. The stranger gave the company very detailed design documents and stated the money was not an issue.

    The “Georgia Guidestones” were completed six months later in 1980. As noted in the Wikipedia entry “The content of the message bears a remarkable resemblance to the so called Earth Charter, a statement of vision of the Earth Charter Initiative of Mikhail Gorbachev (Green Cross International) and Maurice Strong (Earth Summit).”

    The monument stands high on a hilltop, and is almost twenty feet tall. It is made from five granite slabs that weigh more than 100 tons, with a capstone connecting the slabs. A message consisting of a set of ten guidelines or principles is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones in eight different languages, one language on each face of the four large upright stones. Moving clockwise around the monument from due north, these languages are: English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindi, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese and Russian. The message in English reads:

    1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
    2. Guide reproduction wisely – improving fitness and diversity.
    3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
    4. Rule passion – faith – tradition – and all things with tempered reason.
    5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
    6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
    7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
    8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
    9. Prize truth – beauty – love – seeking harmony with the infinite.
    10. Be not a cancer on the earth – Leave room for nature.

    A shorter message appears on the four vertical surfaces of the capstone, again in a different language and script on each face. The explanatory tablet near the Guidestones identifies these languages/scripts as Babylonian Cuneiform (north), Classical Greek (east), Sanskrit (south), and Egyptian Hieroglyphs (west), and provides what is presumably an English translation: “Let these be guidestones to an age of reason.” The Guidestones have become famous as ‘America’s Stonehenge’. The origin of the Stones remains a mystery but the implications of these guidelines, especially the first two, are disturbing to say the least.

    Sustainable Development is a doctrine devised by the former Prime Minister of Norway Gro Harlem Brundtland. The UN Secretary-General, Javier Perez de Cuellar, asked Mrs. Brundtland to chair a World Commission focusing on “long-term environmental strategies for achieving sustainable development by the year 2000 and beyond.” She was asked “to help formulate a compelling call for political action on behalf of the environment”. Members of the ‘Brundtland Commission’ came from 21 nations, more than half in the developing world. After three years, including public hearings in the capitals of 15 countries, what now is often called simply the ‘Brundtland Commission’ published a report titled Our Common Future.

    “Over the course of this century, the relationship between the human world and the planet that sustains it has undergone a profound change,” said the report. “When the century began, neither human numbers or technology had the power radically to alter planetary systems. As the century closes, not only do vastly increased human numbers and their activities have that power, but major, unintended changes are occurring in the atmosphere, in soils, in water, among plants and animals, and in the relationships among all of these. The rate of change is outstripping the ability of scientific disciplines and our current capabilities to assess and advise.”

    This sentiment strongly echoes the Limits to Growth published by the Club of Rome nearly twenty years previously. It also surmised that “major, unintended changes are occurring in the atmosphere, in soils, in waters, among plants and animals. Nature is bountiful but it is also fragile and finely balanced. There are thresholds that cannot be crossed without endangering the basic integrity of the system. Today we are close to many of those thresholds.”

    In issuing a call for various actions, the report offered a now-famous definition of what it referred to as sustainable development: “A form of development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs.” The Brundtland Commission called for an international conference to be convened “within an appropriate period” after the presentation of its report to review progress and create a follow-up structure.

    That conference, the United Nations Conference on Environment and Development, or Earth Summit, was held in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, in 1992. At the Rio ‘Earth Summit’, representatives of more than 170 nations, including the United States, agreed to work toward sustainable development of the planet. More specific agreements, most not legally binding, focused on topics of global significance such as climate change, loss of biodiversity, management of the earth’s forests and the responsibilities and rights of nations. A global plan of action developed in Rio was titled Agenda 21, referring to the 21st century.

    At the opening session of the Rio Earth Summit Maurice Strong, the United Nations Environment Program (UNEP) Secretary-General, bemoaned the world’s “explosive increase in Population” and warned “we have been the most successful species ever; we are now a species out of control. Population must be stabilized and rapidly.” His speech also stated that “current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake use of fossil fuels, appliances, home and work-place air-conditioning, and suburban housing – are not sustainable. A shift is necessary which will require a vast strengthening of the multilateral system, including the United Nations.”

    Mr Strong has since stated that “The United States is the greatest threat to the global environment. It is guilty of environmental aggression against the planet” and “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsiblity to bring that about?”

    Sustainable Development, as outlined in Agenda 21 and the subsequent Earth Charter, is the driving force behind what Al Gore calls a “wrenching transformation” that society must endure to repair what he perceives as the damage of the 20th century’s Industrial Revolution. It is the same Industrial Revolution that gave us modern transportation, medicine, indoor plumbing, healthy drinking water, central heating, air conditioning, and electric light. Sustainable Development is not about environmental clean up of rivers, air and litter. It is an all-encompassing socialist scheme to combine social welfare programs with government control of private business, socialized medicine, national zoning controls of private property and restructuring of school curriculum which serves to indoctrinate children into politically correct group think.

    Immediately following the publication of Brundtland Commission report and the Earth Summit many governments swiftly enacted draconian legislation to empower the Sustainable Development doctrine. This followed a common formula of establishing regional or federal authorities that were given sweeping powers to control activities on private property. In Europe nearly every imaginable activity, no matter how benign, now requires and environmental impact assessment to be submitted to a committee which then imposes its own controls on the proposed activity. The UN regularly audits member countries and reports on their progress in implementing Agenda 21.

    The primary tools used by the UN to force governments to implement its Sustainable Development agenda have been The World Bank and the International Monetary Fund (IMF). The World Bank states that Sustainable Development is its “global strategic priority” and all government loans are tagged with the requirement to introduce approved environmental legislation and strict monitoring. Even if repayments are met these loans can be foreclosed if the environmental targets are not met within the required timeframe.

    In his book, Earth in the Balance, Al Gore insists “We must all become partners in a bold effort to change the very foundation of our civilization. We must make the rescue of the environment the central organizing principle for civilization.” Sustainable Development advocates seek oppressive taxes to control and punish behavior of which they don’t approve and there is much these advocates disapprove, including air conditioning, fast foods, suburban housing and automobiles. Every aspect of our lives is affected by Sustainable Development policies. It is top-down control from an all-powerful central government, specifically the United Nations which seeks to assert such control.

    The philosophy behind Sustainable Development is to foster a mentality of guilt in people over the use of natural resources. Every time one starts their car… every time one turns on the tap… remember, be sustainable! Don’t exceed your allotment of resources…. We all must learn to live the same, think the same and most importantly… be sustainable! We are encouraged to calculate our ‘ecological footprint’, or more recently, our ‘carbon footprint’. Using a humble incandescent light bulb is now considered a crime against the planet by some. During the recent Earth Hour there were people in my city banging on their neighbours door telling them to switch off their lights. This collective guilt trip is being used to develop the global consciousness that I discussed in my previous article. Even back in 1974 the Club of Rome stated in Mankind at the Turning Point:

    “A world consciousness must be developed through which every individual realizes his role as a member of the world community… If the human species is to survive, man must develop a sense of identification with future generations and be ready to trade benefits to the next generations for the benefits to himself. If each generation aims at maximum good for itself, Homo sapiens are as good as doomed “

    The next revolution in the Sustainable Development saga appears to be the use of Global Warming hysteria to implement a global carbon tax or carbon credit trading system. This will give the United Nations, or whatever hierarchy oversees the system, complete control of the worlds economy. Fossil fuels are the life blood of any economy. One barrel of oil contains 23,000 hours of human work output. Controlling the amount of oil that can be consumed, and taxing its consumption, will complete the Sustainable Development agenda of controlling and reducing human activity in order to protect Mother Earth from her greatest enemy – humans!

    “Humans on the Earth behave in some ways like a
    pathogenic micro-organism, or like the cells of a tumor.“
    - Sir James Lovelock,
    Healing Gaia: Practical Medicine for the Planet

    http://green-agenda.com/sustainabledevelopment.html

  • Bachir

    Nobody has the “right” to say another cannot procreate Ghassan.

    God gave us a right to procreate that no human, no matter what their standing can take away.

    Ghassan, if you advocate what you have written, are you willing to be the first to get a vasectomy, or neutered in any way you choose fit?

  • Bachir

    By the way, this article did not mention that the Climategate scanda, the UN IPCC has been providing fraudeulant data on the environment. How can we consider deniying the less fortunate and powerless the ability and god given right to procreate based on fraudulent data?

    http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=climategate&meta=&aq=f&oq=

  • http://rationalrepublic.blogspot.com Ghassan Karam

    Bachir,
    Of course I have the right to limit procreation. Rights change as the circumstances do. At one point slavery was a right and at another exploitation of other humans was a right. Well we outgrew these ideas and so we need to outgrow the idea that the write to multiply is a God given right. We decide on what is to be accepted as rights at any point in time. It is very clear that at this juncture the right to procreate is being abused. If it is not brought under control then the alternative will be disasterous for everyone. That is why we have the right to impose controls.

  • http://YALIBNAN.com Dalal

    The Independent- London-May 4 2008

    Multinationals make billions in profit out of growing global food crisis.peculators blamed for driving up price of basic foods as 100 million face severe hunger.

    the globalised system under corporate control is a guaranteed recipe for food disasters and food famines.

    Since Adam and Eve were created resources have never been scarce ..but acts of evil have been abundant…Human greed for wealth and power are our major concerns rather than popultion growth.
    Sorry Ghassan you are hard to convince lol

  • http://rationalrepublic.blogspot.com Ghassan Karam

    Dalal
    There is no doubt that speculation and access to food exaserbate the problem. Sen, a Nobel laureate, wrote a relatively short article around 30-40 years ago that changed everyones ; almost everyones; idea about famine. He argued convincingly that famines are rarely the result of crop failure. Most often they result from the lack of access to food.
    That is a valid point of view that I do not challenge. My only point is that planet earth is finite and so its ability to produce food sustainably also has limits. The world is probably past these limits already and if we are not then what is also tragic is that population grows in the countries that are already poor and that do not have adequate food while it is either stable or declining in the countries that have a current surplus of food.. Recent studies have shown that over 3/4 of ocean fisheries are at the point of collapse.

  • Bachir

    Ghassan,

    I seems you have delusions of grandeur!

    Who gives you the right to prevent anyone from procreating?

    Who elected you to make any decisions on the rest of our lives?
    Especially using fraudenlent data on population and envirmonmentalism,and population?

    You also did not answer, are you ready to be the first one neutered since you advocate it?

    Do you have children, and are willing to never have any?

    Speaking of slavery, let;s get the story straight, nobody had a “right” to enslave other, slavery was an inhumane practice, by people who thought they are superior to other.

    Ghassan you nr anybody own the rest of us as slaves, so you have no say in my life, unless I elect you to represent me. You thinikng you have a “right” to tell anyone not to procreate, is an illusion of grandeur, where you think you own me,we are not yours or an environmentalists slave!!!

    Albeit I truly believe you have good intentions behind your advocations of the kulling of our fellow humans.

  • Bachir

    Also when you say :
    ” We decide on what is to be accepted as rights at any point in time.’

    Who do you mean by “WE”?

  • http://rationalrepublic.blogspot.com Ghassan Karam

    Bachir,
    All rights are determined in a social context and in the same way that society has the right to prevent you from driving at 90 mph, carrying a gun, riding a motorcycle without a helmet, building without a permit… it also has the right to limit your procreation when the impact of your private actions will be felt by all.

  • Bachir

    Since it is no human that has given humanity the ability to pocreate, it is no human that will take away the right of humanity to procreate.

  • Bachir

    We are not a heard of sheep that belong to the globalists, to be culled whenever they choose.

    My previous post shows the elitist’s own words, calling for our extermination as if we are their property.

    Humanity will defeat this handfull of buthchers that have caused countless wars and deaths already around the globe in the last hundred years alone.

  • http://rationalrepublic.blogspot.com Ghassan Karam

    Bachir,
    Believe me, there is no conspiracy behind what I am advocating:-) Malthus spoke about this 200 years ago. I am only proposing that humans have only two choices : (1) We can keep business-as-usual and crash (poverty, hunger, famines, war etc…) or (2) we can act through a variety of mechanisms to limit population growth.
    If we fail to act then nature will act on our behalf.

  • Walid Khouri

    Guys,
    No need to go that far. It is really simple. I myself do not believe that you can have more than three (3) kids and bring them right and parent them properly unless you fell on some fortune or inherited some. Still, even if money and resources are plentiful, I doubt you can do it right. I have one son, and believe me the energy it takes to teach one kid everything there is to know in this day and age is grand. Parenting, is not procreating, and procreating is not parenting. If you choose to do it right, you need to be there for your kids, give them the attention needed, the discipline, the “savoir vivre”, the love and care. To procreate, and simply depend on schooling to make a human out of a kid is simply irresponsible. Parenting for a father and a mother means “being there” for the kids. A concept, unfortunately, foreign to many.

  • http://rationalrepublic.blogspot.com Ghassan Karam

    Walid,
    Responsible parenting is a hugely important step in the right direction. That is in essence part of the strategies adopted by the Cairo 1994 conference.

  • Inamyat

    I think this is not a big issue for Lebanon, the increasing reproduction is out drowned by the brain drain. Many parts of Lebanon are crowded yes, but even more parts are virgin and unpopulated. I have seen ghost villages, due to the brain drain. So if anything the population in Lebanon is probably decreasing, however, I may be wrong as I have not researched it. Attempts on population controll may even lead to abortions of female babies for economic reasons, like in China with their population controll laws. Providing that we take care of our Eath, I believe that we, like other species, should be able to freely reproduce without restriction.

  • http://rationalrepublic.blogspot.com Ghassan Karam

    Inmayat,
    The reasonthe Lebanese have to immigrate is partially due to the fact that there are too many of us for the resources in Lebanon. It is true that Lebanon is not growing at a huge rate but yet we have to provide for around 50,000 new people every year and that is a lot.

  • Bachir

    Guys, my previous posts clearly prove a group of greedy, moraly bankrupt globalist elite have been working on depupulation.

    Look at their own words, they want us dead.

  • Bachir

    The Club of Rome
    Founded in 1968, the Club of Rome is a global think tank that deals with a variety of international political issues. According to to the club’s publications, the common enemy of humanity is man.

    According to its website, the Club of Rome is composed of “scientists, economists, businessmen, international high civil servants, heads of state and former heads of state from all five continents who are convinced that the future of humankind is not determined once and for all and that each human being can contribute to the improvement of our societies.”

    The Club of Rome is a Neo-Malthusian organization with interlocking membership with European power elite groups such as the Committee of 300 (a secret society founded by the British aristocracy in 1727) and the Bilderberg Group.

    Malthus argued that population was held within resource limits by two types of checks: positive ones, which raised the death rate, and preventative ones, which lowered the birth rate. The positive checks included hunger, disease and war; the preventative checks, abortion, birth control, prostitution, postponement of marriage, and celibacy.

    One of the major goals of the Club of Rome is to reduce the world’s population by 2 billion people through war, famine, disease and any other means necessary.

    Not only did the Club of Rome’s 1972 report, “Limits to Growth” call for a reduced level of consumption of resources, it also argued that humankind needs to re-evaluate its exploitative attitude towards humans and the earth itself. The failure to give more foreign aid is indicative of the increased selfishness of rich countries. Meanwhile, the world’s richest 20 per cent of the population consume 86 per cent of its goods and services, over half its energy and nearly half its meat and fish.

    The Club of Rome’s members, including Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands and Mikhail Gorbachev, believe humanity requires “a common motivation, namely a common adversary” in order to realize world government.

    In the Club of Rome book, The First Global Revolution, the group called for a “limit to growth” approach to solve the world’s problems, in fact a problem the global elite has with humanity. “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill,” the book states. “All these dangers are caused by human intervention,” and thus the “real enemy, then, is humanity itself.”

    It does not matter if this common enemy is “a real one or… one invented for the purpose.” In the process of struggling against this implacable enemy, democracy “will be made to seem responsible for the lagging economy, the scarcity and uncertainties. The very concept of democracy could then be brought into question and allow for the seizure of power.”

    Richard Haass, the current president of the Council on Foreign Relations, expanded on this topic in his article, State sovereignty must be altered in globalized era. According to Haass, a system of world government must be created and sovereignty eliminated in order to fight global warming and terrorism, both invented as the Club of Rome suggested. “Some governments are prepared to give up elements of sovereignty to address the threat of global climate change,” writes Haass. “The goal should be to redefine sovereignty for the era of globalization, to find a balance between a world of fully sovereign states and an international system of either world government or anarchy.”

    In 1976, the United States Association of the Club of Rome (USACOR) was formed for the purpose of gradually shutting down the U.S. economy. In addition to pushing the junk science of climate change, our rulers are systematically taking down the global economy in order to impose what Haass describes as “an international system of either world government or anarchy.”

    Let by Democrats, the U.S. Congress was able to pass a cap-and-trade system that will result in the largest tax and spend bill in U.S. history with relatively little opposition. In the months ahead, with the help of the corporate media, they will crank up the propaganda about climate change and eventually impose punitive carbon taxes on the American people, a scheme that may eventually lead to the near complete reversal of hundreds of years of technological progress and man’s return to the stone age.

    The Committee of 300
    “There is no need to use ‘they’ or ‘the enemy’ except as shorthand. We know who ‘they,’ the enemy, is. The Committee of 300 with its Eastern Liberal Establishment ‘aristocracy,’ its banks, insurance companies, giant corporations, foundations, communications networks, presided over by a hierarchy of conspirators – this is the enemy.” – John Coleman, “Conspirators Hierarchy”

    This Committee of 300 is modeled after the British East India Company’s Council of 300, founded by the British aristocracy in 1727. Most of its immense wealth arose out of the opium trade with China. This group is responsible for the phony drug wars here in the U.S. These phony drug wars were to get us to give away our constitutional rights. Asset forfeiture is a prime example, where huge assets can be seized without trail and no proof of guilt needed.

    “Three hundred men, all of whom know one another, direct the economic destiny of Europe and choose their successors from among themselves.” -Walter Rathenau of General Electric, 1909

    Some notable members of the Committee of 300 include: The British royal family, Dutch royal family, House of Hapsburg, House of Orange, Duke of Alba, Prince Philip Duke of Edinburgh, Lord Carrington, Lord Halifax, Lord Alfred Milner, John Jacob and Waldorf of the Astor Illuminati bloodline, Winston Churchill, Cecil Rhodes, Queen Elizabeth II, Queen Juliana, Queen Beatrix, Queen Magreta, King Haakon of Norway, Colonel Mandel House, Aldous Huxley, John Forbes, Averill Harriman, William and McGeorge Bundy, George Bush, Prescott Bush, Henry Kissinger, J.P. Morgan, Maurice Strong, David Rockefeller, David and Evelyn Rothschild, Paul, Max and Felix Warburg, Ormsby and Al Gore, Bertrand Russell, Sir Earnest and Harry of the Oppenheimer Illuminati bloodline, Warren Buffet, Giuseppe Mazzini, Sir William Hesse, George Schultz, H.G. Wells, and Ted Turner.

    The Committee of 300 looks to social convulsions on a global scale, followed by depressions, as a softening-up technique for bigger things to come, as its principal method of creating masses of people all over the world who will become its “welfare” recipients of the future.

    http://www.jeremiahproject.com/newworldorder/club-of-rome.html

  • Bachir

    P.S. Genocidal murderers Hitler and Marx , responsible for the death of countless millions, were great fans of Malthus.

    When they call it sustainability , they mean Eugenics.

    http://www.emmerich1.com/EUGENICS.htm

    Again , the science is fraudulent…
    Malthus argued that the island of Britain could not sustain a population of 20 million, but 150 years later the population was more than triple Malthus’ ceiling.

    So we want to depopulate based n faulty science?

  • Bachir

    Harvard Fellow calls for genocidal measure to curb Palestinian births
    Report, The Electronic Intifada, 22 February 2010

    A fellow at Harvard University’s Weatherhead Center for International Affairs, Martin Kramer, has called for “the West” to take measures to curb the births of Palestinians, a proposal that appears to meet the international legal definition of a call for genocide.

    Kramer, who is also a fellow at the influential Washington Institute for Near East Policy (WINEP), made the call early this month in a speech at Israel’s Herzliya conference, a video of which is posted on his blog (“Superfluous young men,” 7 February 2010).

    In the speech Kramer rejected common views that Islamist “radicalization” is caused by US policies such as support for Israel, or propping up despotic dictatorships, and stated that it was inherent in the demography of Muslim societies such as Yemen, Iraq, Afghanistan and the Israeli-occupied Gaza Strip. Too many children, he argued, leads to too many “superfluous young men” who then become violent radicals.

    Kramer proposed that the number of Palestinian children born in the Gaza Strip should be deliberately curbed, and alleged that this would “happen faster if the West stops providing pro-natal subsidies to Palestinians with refugee status.”

    Due to the Israeli blockade, the vast majority of Palestinians in Gaza are now dependent on UN food aid. Neither the UN, nor any other agencies, provide Palestinians with specifically “pro-natal subsidies.” Kramer appeared to be equating any humanitarian assistance at all with inducement for Palestinians to reproduce.

    He added, “Israel’s present sanctions on Gaza have a political aim — undermine the Hamas regime — but if they also break Gaza’s runaway population growth, and there is some evidence that they have, that might begin to crack the culture of martyrdom which demands a constant supply of superfluous young men.” This, he claimed, would be treating the issue of Islamic radicalization “at its root.”

    The 1948 UN Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, created in the wake of the Nazi holocaust, defines genocide to include measures “intended to prevent births within” a specific “national, ethnic, racial or religious group.”

    The Weatherhead Center at Harvard describes itself as “the largest international research center within Harvard University’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences.” In addition to his positions at Harvard and WINEP, Kramer is “president-designate” of Shalem College in Jerusalem, a far-right Zionist institution that aspires to be the “College of the Jewish People.”

    Pro-Israel speakers from the United States often participate in the the Herzliya conference, an influential annual gathering of Israel’s political and military establishment. This year’s conference was also addressed by The New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman and, in a first for a Palestinian official, by Salam Fayyad, appointed prime minister of the Ramallah-based Palestinian Authority.

    Kramer’s call to prevent Palestinian births reflects a long-standing Israeli and Zionist concern about a so-called “demographic threat” to Israel, as Palestinians are on the verge of outnumbering Israeli Jews within Israel, and the occupied Palestinian territories combined.

    Such extreme racist views have been aired at the Herzliya conference in the past. In 2003, for example, Dr. Yitzhak Ravid, an Israeli government armaments expert, called on Israel to “implement a stringent policy of family planning in relation to its Muslim population,” a reference to the 1.5 million Palestinian citizens of Israel.

    http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article11091.shtml

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