Lebanon, entire world will be in trouble if Hezbollah indicted, says Sayegh


Lebanese Minister of Social Affairs Selim Sayegh said during an interview with New TV on Sunday that Lebanon and the entire world would be in an impasse if Hezbollah or any of its members are indicted by the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) for the 2005 assassination of Lebanon’s former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri.

Sayegh voiced hope that the tribunal would not find Lebanese nationals to be responsible for Rafik Hariri’s murder.

Hezbollah’s indictment will lead to divisions in Lebanon, undermine the stability of the country and threaten a reprise of the 2008 May Events, the minister said.

Hezbollah Secretary General Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah revealed last Thursday that the tribunal would indict some Hezbollah members in Hariri’s murder, but warned that his party would reject such an indictment.

Nasrallah’s speech created a lot of tension in the country and reminded the Lebanese of May 2008 , when Hezbollah occupied western Beirut and tried but failed to occupy Mt Lebanon.

Sayegh , who is a Phalange party member said that his party is interested in the tribunal because two party members;former Industry Minister Pierre Gemayel and former MP Antoine Ghanem—were killed in the wave of assassinations that followed Hariri’s murder.

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  • Tarie Al Fanarie

    To Tony A, LEBFIRST, JNOUBI, JOHN, ALOUSH And famous OUTFAMIS..
    I am pasting here part of the statment written in the above article and this is not part of the minister statmt. This is the general feelings in lebanon and worldwide. “Nasrallah’s speech created a lot of tension in the country and reminded the Lebanese of May 2008 , when Hezbollah occupied western Beirut and tried but failed to occupy Mt Lebanon”.
    So if someone is guilty why and has it not happened again of course. But if they took over Beirut and other areas by armed forces? what will be your reactions of hezbollah guilty or not guilty of the crimes its accused of? why would you take over areas that’s not threatening you physically? Or can be a threat to you? if the lebanese army who’s the second strongest armed institutions in lebanon is not arresting your memebers that would convicted of the killing? what make you think that Geagea and Oqab Saqr, or Kataab are going to arrest you? So why would again assuming here hezbollah did attack lebanese to show the world they’re mad as hell and they will not take it from anyone. this is what messages they’re sending. If they attack and you people still siding with them. Then you’re as guilty as them and you’re being anti-lebanese. So what its different between people who supports israel against LEbanon or Syria and Iran against lebanon? there are no difference and stop telling me syria is our arab bretheren. Bretheren do not kill each other and take away your dignity and freedom. Lebanon axis of Evil is israel, Syria and Iran and hezbollah is working to facilitate their goals in lebanon.

  • Tarie Al Fanarie

    To Tony A, LEBFIRST, JNOUBI, JOHN, ALOUSH And famous OUTFAMIS..
    I am pasting here part of the statment written in the above article and this is not part of the minister statmt. This is the general feelings in lebanon and worldwide. “Nasrallah’s speech created a lot of tension in the country and reminded the Lebanese of May 2008 , when Hezbollah occupied western Beirut and tried but failed to occupy Mt Lebanon”.
    So if someone is guilty why and has it not happened again of course. But if they took over Beirut and other areas by armed forces? what will be your reactions of hezbollah guilty or not guilty of the crimes its accused of? why would you take over areas that’s not threatening you physically? Or can be a threat to you? if the lebanese army who’s the second strongest armed institutions in lebanon is not arresting your memebers that would convicted of the killing? what make you think that Geagea and Oqab Saqr, or Kataab are going to arrest you? So why would again assuming here hezbollah did attack lebanese to show the world they’re mad as hell and they will not take it from anyone. this is what messages they’re sending. If they attack and you people still siding with them. Then you’re as guilty as them and you’re being anti-lebanese. So what its different between people who supports israel against LEbanon or Syria and Iran against lebanon? there are no difference and stop telling me syria is our arab bretheren. Bretheren do not kill each other and take away your dignity and freedom. Lebanon axis of Evil is israel, Syria and Iran and hezbollah is working to facilitate their goals in lebanon.

  • Lebster

    Entire world will be in trouble if HA is indicted? Why is that?? Hmmm.. Will it lead to some foreign elements directly? The world community will react badly?? Let it be so…. Criminals whoever and wherever they are should be held accountable for their action. No more no accountability a la Libanaise as usual.

  • Lebster

    Entire world will be in trouble if HA is indicted? Why is that?? Hmmm.. Will it lead to some foreign elements directly? The world community will react badly?? Let it be so…. Criminals whoever and wherever they are should be held accountable for their action. No more no accountability a la Libanaise as usual.

  • Lebster

    Entire world will be in trouble if HA is indicted? Why is that?? Hmmm.. Will it lead to some foreign elements directly? The world community will react badly?? Let it be so…. Criminals whoever and wherever they are should be held accountable for their action. No more no accountability a la Libanaise as usual.

  • Tony A

    tarie who cares bro. you need to chill out man. look at the banning of the veils in syria as a good sign and as a very subtle message to HA and iran that syria is not in agreement with their ideologies though they show solidarity.

    its just like russia. just cos they’re dealing with iran, doesn’t mean they’re butt buddies and russia is letting iran know that.

    so ya tarie, just cos i’m not mad doesn’t mean i don’t see your point. intelligent people know who did it without all the writing you’re doing.

    HA has rogue agents within its camps and they will be flushed out. HA and syria can’t have possibly been solely involved so sorry, i don’t agree with you. this was a whole country involvement as we have many traitors within our ranks excluding HA.

    nasrallah’s speech doesn’t scare me. its the idiots that are in the lower ranks who burn tires and steal electricity that do. they’re barbaric and they have no sense of reason. they idolise him as if he’s the messiah and they listen to his every word religiously. nasrallah is a mere mouthpiece man and he is slowly joining the tables of discussions via his reps.

    it was the other parties like gemayel who referred to may 8 after his speech. nasrallah didn’t say anything about may 8. so why do you put words in his mouth like everybody else. they do these things to have people listen to them. may 8 will never come back.

    HA got their seats in the parliament and their telecommunication which is proving to be a joke due to the spies caught is being dealt with.

    if you don’t think the mossad was also involved with hariri’s killings then you’re naiive bro.

    if nasrallah doesn’t hand anyone over like you said, they will all be killed anyway and nasrallah will keep alienating himself to the point that his own people will overthrow him.

    you have to believe in the beauty of karma. you live in the states man, do you not understand what i’m saying? nasrallh never scared me.

    the whole fiasco in beirut sit in and the pointing of arms towards lebanese was cos the lebanese wanted HA to bend over and hand over soome ky jelly to the very people who neglected them pre-82.

    just give it time tarie. HA will and must dismantle eventually. there is no choice in the matter. they can’t be isolated forever. their whole goal is to feel protected which is why they picked up arms in the first place.

    if you understand the dichotomy of god, you will actually see the HA is actually good for lebanon.

    they ARE forcing unity among all parties to deal with it.

    they ARE forcing lebanon to strengthen its IDP and police force as well as look at its army.

    they ARE forcing lebanese to re-examine their identity as to freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

    they ARE forcing lebanese see what we don’t want to become (an iran state)

    they ARE forcing lebanese to deal with the telecommunications throught their lack of control which they thought they had absolute control over but then we found israeli spies in their networks.

    there is always a benefit to things that happen so you need to chill out and drink some tea. give lebanon a chance to grow.

    you’re wrong with your invitation to israel to defeat HA. your thinking is very dangerous as you have no consideration to the people like my family living in lebanon and the risks posed with an invasion form israel.

    that’s your mistake like many lebanese. you run to the outside world for help instead of dealing with your own problems. HA is our problem and we need to deal with them internally which is slowly happening if they all stop pouting like kids by storming out of meetings.

    HA is being humbled by GOD himself (dakheel ismoo ya rab) by exposing their inabilities to have control of spies within their ranks. these spies are a sign of extreme disatisfaction with HA’s platform. they’re not as loved from within their ranks as we think they are. the proof is in the pudding.

    they cant even control the idiots shooting at planes landing and taking off.

    HA is not as big a threat as you think. it is our lack of unity as lebanese that is the BIGGEST threat.

    have a good day tarie and calm down dude. do you want me to send you $300 for a great one hour service from the best high class escort service out there in your area? lemme know

  • Tony A

    tarie who cares bro. you need to chill out man. look at the banning of the veils in syria as a good sign and as a very subtle message to HA and iran that syria is not in agreement with their ideologies though they show solidarity.

    its just like russia. just cos they’re dealing with iran, doesn’t mean they’re butt buddies and russia is letting iran know that.

    so ya tarie, just cos i’m not mad doesn’t mean i don’t see your point. intelligent people know who did it without all the writing you’re doing.

    HA has rogue agents within its camps and they will be flushed out. HA and syria can’t have possibly been solely involved so sorry, i don’t agree with you. this was a whole country involvement as we have many traitors within our ranks excluding HA.

    nasrallah’s speech doesn’t scare me. its the idiots that are in the lower ranks who burn tires and steal electricity that do. they’re barbaric and they have no sense of reason. they idolise him as if he’s the messiah and they listen to his every word religiously. nasrallah is a mere mouthpiece man and he is slowly joining the tables of discussions via his reps.

    it was the other parties like gemayel who referred to may 8 after his speech. nasrallah didn’t say anything about may 8. so why do you put words in his mouth like everybody else. they do these things to have people listen to them. may 8 will never come back.

    HA got their seats in the parliament and their telecommunication which is proving to be a joke due to the spies caught is being dealt with.

    if you don’t think the mossad was also involved with hariri’s killings then you’re naiive bro.

    if nasrallah doesn’t hand anyone over like you said, they will all be killed anyway and nasrallah will keep alienating himself to the point that his own people will overthrow him.

    you have to believe in the beauty of karma. you live in the states man, do you not understand what i’m saying? nasrallh never scared me.

    the whole fiasco in beirut sit in and the pointing of arms towards lebanese was cos the lebanese wanted HA to bend over and hand over soome ky jelly to the very people who neglected them pre-82.

    just give it time tarie. HA will and must dismantle eventually. there is no choice in the matter. they can’t be isolated forever. their whole goal is to feel protected which is why they picked up arms in the first place.

    if you understand the dichotomy of god, you will actually see the HA is actually good for lebanon.

    they ARE forcing unity among all parties to deal with it.

    they ARE forcing lebanon to strengthen its IDP and police force as well as look at its army.

    they ARE forcing lebanese to re-examine their identity as to freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

    they ARE forcing lebanese see what we don’t want to become (an iran state)

    they ARE forcing lebanese to deal with the telecommunications throught their lack of control which they thought they had absolute control over but then we found israeli spies in their networks.

    there is always a benefit to things that happen so you need to chill out and drink some tea. give lebanon a chance to grow.

    you’re wrong with your invitation to israel to defeat HA. your thinking is very dangerous as you have no consideration to the people like my family living in lebanon and the risks posed with an invasion form israel.

    that’s your mistake like many lebanese. you run to the outside world for help instead of dealing with your own problems. HA is our problem and we need to deal with them internally which is slowly happening if they all stop pouting like kids by storming out of meetings.

    HA is being humbled by GOD himself (dakheel ismoo ya rab) by exposing their inabilities to have control of spies within their ranks. these spies are a sign of extreme disatisfaction with HA’s platform. they’re not as loved from within their ranks as we think they are. the proof is in the pudding.

    they cant even control the idiots shooting at planes landing and taking off.

    HA is not as big a threat as you think. it is our lack of unity as lebanese that is the BIGGEST threat.

    have a good day tarie and calm down dude. do you want me to send you $300 for a great one hour service from the best high class escort service out there in your area? lemme know

  • Tony A

    tarie who cares bro. you need to chill out man. look at the banning of the veils in syria as a good sign and as a very subtle message to HA and iran that syria is not in agreement with their ideologies though they show solidarity.

    its just like russia. just cos they’re dealing with iran, doesn’t mean they’re butt buddies and russia is letting iran know that.

    so ya tarie, just cos i’m not mad doesn’t mean i don’t see your point. intelligent people know who did it without all the writing you’re doing.

    HA has rogue agents within its camps and they will be flushed out. HA and syria can’t have possibly been solely involved so sorry, i don’t agree with you. this was a whole country involvement as we have many traitors within our ranks excluding HA.

    nasrallah’s speech doesn’t scare me. its the idiots that are in the lower ranks who burn tires and steal electricity that do. they’re barbaric and they have no sense of reason. they idolise him as if he’s the messiah and they listen to his every word religiously. nasrallah is a mere mouthpiece man and he is slowly joining the tables of discussions via his reps.

    it was the other parties like gemayel who referred to may 8 after his speech. nasrallah didn’t say anything about may 8. so why do you put words in his mouth like everybody else. they do these things to have people listen to them. may 8 will never come back.

    HA got their seats in the parliament and their telecommunication which is proving to be a joke due to the spies caught is being dealt with.

    if you don’t think the mossad was also involved with hariri’s killings then you’re naiive bro.

    if nasrallah doesn’t hand anyone over like you said, they will all be killed anyway and nasrallah will keep alienating himself to the point that his own people will overthrow him.

    you have to believe in the beauty of karma. you live in the states man, do you not understand what i’m saying? nasrallh never scared me.

    the whole fiasco in beirut sit in and the pointing of arms towards lebanese was cos the lebanese wanted HA to bend over and hand over soome ky jelly to the very people who neglected them pre-82.

    just give it time tarie. HA will and must dismantle eventually. there is no choice in the matter. they can’t be isolated forever. their whole goal is to feel protected which is why they picked up arms in the first place.

    if you understand the dichotomy of god, you will actually see the HA is actually good for lebanon.

    they ARE forcing unity among all parties to deal with it.

    they ARE forcing lebanon to strengthen its IDP and police force as well as look at its army.

    they ARE forcing lebanese to re-examine their identity as to freedom of speech and freedom of religion.

    they ARE forcing lebanese see what we don’t want to become (an iran state)

    they ARE forcing lebanese to deal with the telecommunications throught their lack of control which they thought they had absolute control over but then we found israeli spies in their networks.

    there is always a benefit to things that happen so you need to chill out and drink some tea. give lebanon a chance to grow.

    you’re wrong with your invitation to israel to defeat HA. your thinking is very dangerous as you have no consideration to the people like my family living in lebanon and the risks posed with an invasion form israel.

    that’s your mistake like many lebanese. you run to the outside world for help instead of dealing with your own problems. HA is our problem and we need to deal with them internally which is slowly happening if they all stop pouting like kids by storming out of meetings.

    HA is being humbled by GOD himself (dakheel ismoo ya rab) by exposing their inabilities to have control of spies within their ranks. these spies are a sign of extreme disatisfaction with HA’s platform. they’re not as loved from within their ranks as we think they are. the proof is in the pudding.

    they cant even control the idiots shooting at planes landing and taking off.

    HA is not as big a threat as you think. it is our lack of unity as lebanese that is the BIGGEST threat.

    have a good day tarie and calm down dude. do you want me to send you $300 for a great one hour service from the best high class escort service out there in your area? lemme know

  • Tony A

    all i see is more fear mongering which the lebanese are learning to use from the west.

    now its the whole world will be in trouble. before you know it, HA will be accused of causing global warming.

    this is getting very ridiculous. just indict all the guilty people and if HA doesn’t like it well that’s tough luck.

    no one’s after HA directly but if there’s rogue agents within HA, then they need to be flushed out which is actually better for HA so i don’t see what they’re complaining about.

    this is becoming a joke.

  • Tony A

    all i see is more fear mongering which the lebanese are learning to use from the west.

    now its the whole world will be in trouble. before you know it, HA will be accused of causing global warming.

    this is getting very ridiculous. just indict all the guilty people and if HA doesn’t like it well that’s tough luck.

    no one’s after HA directly but if there’s rogue agents within HA, then they need to be flushed out which is actually better for HA so i don’t see what they’re complaining about.

    this is becoming a joke.

  • Tarie Al fanarie

    Tony A! HA is a very discplined organization and they won’t accept such rogue members in their organization much less they accept spies spying on them. So what I want to say fine we accept Lebanese army not arresting these members vindicated in the crime. We as lebanese saying let the STL take care of the arrest. But also we’re saying that if hezbollah is responsible for the crime we want them to be held responsible. But that doesn’t mean the March14th people go out and arrest them. As we all know its not possible. So why is Nassrallah and screaming and kicking and threatening everyone with blood? Do you still think that HA is good for lebanon? what are you smoking dude? let me tell you something after the cleanup order by the lebanese gov’t apparently the evidence was so widespread they could clean and cover up the evil act. Here is why Bellemare was pointing at hezbollah..
    “Some military sources report that, among other evidence, the tribunal’s attention was drawn to Hizballah when its investigators linked eight of the 20 cell phones found at the scene of the murder to Hizballah’s special security and intelligence apparatus and senior commanders.
    Nasrallah’s threats Thursday revived memories still-fresh in Lebanon and the Middle East of the chaos Hizballah stirred up by its 2006 war on Israel and its violent takeover of West Beirut in 2008 to strengthen the Shiite militia’s grip on the Beirut government”. Therefore it made King Abudallah to go for a hasty visit to Damascus to ask them to calm down the sitiuations in lebanon and make sure no civil strife takes place. Believe me Tony i understand your peacefull approach and i am with you if HA will hand over these members and that will be more honorable. I am with them against israel if they show responsibilties toward the tribunal and hold themselves accountable if found guilty. However and i have to admit there not much anyone can do right now. that Syria got away with being the number one guilty party here and its going to leave it untouched. I say this is very politicized STL then? To say that israel would love nothing more than to see hezbollah members dragged to Tribunal. I would not be wrong? but that’s where the egos of nassrallah and party members comes in place? will they say yes these members are guilty and we’re deeply sorry for the evil crimes committed. We will cooperate with you to bring those responsible to justice. Then i can say you’re right these were rogue members and anything is possible. But judging from the screaming and shouting and veiled threats what do you really expect us to believe? that HA is good for lebanon? dream on.. its like saying Merging Lebanon with syria is good for lebanon so it will protect from israel and other countries. But i know from your words you mean good and have good intentions and i know you’re not a HA follower. So i have nothing against you personally. take care bro.

  • Constantin

    The hour of the Truth and Justice, which all the Lebanese know anyways but we want it to come from the STL’s mouth, has come.
    EXPOSING THE MURDERERS OF THE LEBANESE FREEDOM FIGHTERS IS ON ITS WAY, and this party which calls itself Party of God (istaghfara allah) is shaking like a leaf. Even if we know that the masterdmind of Hariri’s murder and all the ones that followed him is Syria, but they were smart they used their local agents to do it and when the of mission of these agents finished they disposed of them (remember Mughnieh). So Syria has covered its roll and is not worried, the executors are now very worried….

    GOOD LUCK HASSAN!!!

  • Tarie Al fanarie

    Tony A! HA is a very discplined organization and they won’t accept such rogue members in their organization much less they accept spies spying on them. So what I want to say fine we accept Lebanese army not arresting these members vindicated in the crime. We as lebanese saying let the STL take care of the arrest. But also we’re saying that if hezbollah is responsible for the crime we want them to be held responsible. But that doesn’t mean the March14th people go out and arrest them. As we all know its not possible. So why is Nassrallah and screaming and kicking and threatening everyone with blood? Do you still think that HA is good for lebanon? what are you smoking dude? let me tell you something after the cleanup order by the lebanese gov’t apparently the evidence was so widespread they could clean and cover up the evil act. Here is why Bellemare was pointing at hezbollah..
    “Some military sources report that, among other evidence, the tribunal’s attention was drawn to Hizballah when its investigators linked eight of the 20 cell phones found at the scene of the murder to Hizballah’s special security and intelligence apparatus and senior commanders.
    Nasrallah’s threats Thursday revived memories still-fresh in Lebanon and the Middle East of the chaos Hizballah stirred up by its 2006 war on Israel and its violent takeover of West Beirut in 2008 to strengthen the Shiite militia’s grip on the Beirut government”. Therefore it made King Abudallah to go for a hasty visit to Damascus to ask them to calm down the sitiuations in lebanon and make sure no civil strife takes place. Believe me Tony i understand your peacefull approach and i am with you if HA will hand over these members and that will be more honorable. I am with them against israel if they show responsibilties toward the tribunal and hold themselves accountable if found guilty. However and i have to admit there not much anyone can do right now. that Syria got away with being the number one guilty party here and its going to leave it untouched. I say this is very politicized STL then? To say that israel would love nothing more than to see hezbollah members dragged to Tribunal. I would not be wrong? but that’s where the egos of nassrallah and party members comes in place? will they say yes these members are guilty and we’re deeply sorry for the evil crimes committed. We will cooperate with you to bring those responsible to justice. Then i can say you’re right these were rogue members and anything is possible. But judging from the screaming and shouting and veiled threats what do you really expect us to believe? that HA is good for lebanon? dream on.. its like saying Merging Lebanon with syria is good for lebanon so it will protect from israel and other countries. But i know from your words you mean good and have good intentions and i know you’re not a HA follower. So i have nothing against you personally. take care bro.

  • Constantin

    The hour of the Truth and Justice, which all the Lebanese know anyways but we want it to come from the STL’s mouth, has come.
    EXPOSING THE MURDERERS OF THE LEBANESE FREEDOM FIGHTERS IS ON ITS WAY, and this party which calls itself Party of God (istaghfara allah) is shaking like a leaf. Even if we know that the masterdmind of Hariri’s murder and all the ones that followed him is Syria, but they were smart they used their local agents to do it and when the of mission of these agents finished they disposed of them (remember Mughnieh). So Syria has covered its roll and is not worried, the executors are now very worried….

    GOOD LUCK HASSAN!!!

  • Tarie Al fanarie

    Allow me to add also hezbollah wanted very badly to take over the communication network in 2008. The reason is they knew some of the members who alleged spies and its okay for hezbollah to vindicate them automatically without evidence of course. And also even if they’re evidence how could hezbollah point the fingers at them right away? did they know about these spies and they’re using them to say “Look these spies have been working for israel long time ago and they may have planted these 8 cell phones found at the crime site.” And i am sure they will use spies against the STL in every way they can. I am sure there are more reasons why they wanted to take badly over the network on top of monitoring everyone conversations. think About it Tony why would hezbollah ruin its reputation with attacking Lebanese if it didn’t know that taking over the communication network would save it from far bigger problems and its worth killing few lebanese to save it in the long run. I say now to them it was not a move that i like to say but it was a smart move..
    Yes i know you say let bygone be bygone but if we don’t resist and fight for our dignity and freedom we will be gone.

  • Tarie Al fanarie

    Allow me to add also hezbollah wanted very badly to take over the communication network in 2008. The reason is they knew some of the members who alleged spies and its okay for hezbollah to vindicate them automatically without evidence of course. And also even if they’re evidence how could hezbollah point the fingers at them right away? did they know about these spies and they’re using them to say “Look these spies have been working for israel long time ago and they may have planted these 8 cell phones found at the crime site.” And i am sure they will use spies against the STL in every way they can. I am sure there are more reasons why they wanted to take badly over the network on top of monitoring everyone conversations. think About it Tony why would hezbollah ruin its reputation with attacking Lebanese if it didn’t know that taking over the communication network would save it from far bigger problems and its worth killing few lebanese to save it in the long run. I say now to them it was not a move that i like to say but it was a smart move..
    Yes i know you say let bygone be bygone but if we don’t resist and fight for our dignity and freedom we will be gone.

  • Tarie Al fanarie

    Allow me to add also hezbollah wanted very badly to take over the communication network in 2008. The reason is they knew some of the members who alleged spies and its okay for hezbollah to vindicate them automatically without evidence of course. And also even if they’re evidence how could hezbollah point the fingers at them right away? did they know about these spies and they’re using them to say “Look these spies have been working for israel long time ago and they may have planted these 8 cell phones found at the crime site.” And i am sure they will use spies against the STL in every way they can. I am sure there are more reasons why they wanted to take badly over the network on top of monitoring everyone conversations. think About it Tony why would hezbollah ruin its reputation with attacking Lebanese if it didn’t know that taking over the communication network would save it from far bigger problems and its worth killing few lebanese to save it in the long run. I say now to them it was not a move that i like to say but it was a smart move..
    Yes i know you say let bygone be bygone but if we don’t resist and fight for our dignity and freedom we will be gone.

  • Tony A

    lol tarie lol they wont accept such rogue members in their agencies? lol man i’m laugihng so hard bro that you really made my day.

    you just dont have logic in your soul man.

    HA has no control over bad people from within which is why their network is infested with spies which will force them to cooperate.

    just so yo know tarie there’s nothing wrong with HA followers or any followers just as long as they’re not BLIND followers.

    i dunno if i’m missing something here but their takeover beirut was a bunch of tents.

    i would love for you tarie to start taking some responsibility for HA’s existence pre 82 then you will have tolerance over its present state of mind.

    i’m so sick and tired of this tribunal its beginning to look like OJ Simpson’s long and boooooooooorring trial.

    do you honestly think i’m clenching my teeth over this nonsense? when i talk to my family in lebanon over it they yawn. they have no clue what’s going on as they go on with their lives.

    maybe its a druze thing i dunno but, i can really see much more benefit to the money that was wasted on this sorry excuse of a trial on so many other needed projects than to see if the “butler did it”.

    EVERYBODY’S GUILTY SO LET’S INDICT THOSE WHO ARE AND ACCEPT THAT THE BOSSES IN SYRIA AND LEBANON ARE UNTOUCHABLES AND MOVE ON.

  • Tony A

    lol tarie lol they wont accept such rogue members in their agencies? lol man i’m laugihng so hard bro that you really made my day.

    you just dont have logic in your soul man.

    HA has no control over bad people from within which is why their network is infested with spies which will force them to cooperate.

    just so yo know tarie there’s nothing wrong with HA followers or any followers just as long as they’re not BLIND followers.

    i dunno if i’m missing something here but their takeover beirut was a bunch of tents.

    i would love for you tarie to start taking some responsibility for HA’s existence pre 82 then you will have tolerance over its present state of mind.

    i’m so sick and tired of this tribunal its beginning to look like OJ Simpson’s long and boooooooooorring trial.

    do you honestly think i’m clenching my teeth over this nonsense? when i talk to my family in lebanon over it they yawn. they have no clue what’s going on as they go on with their lives.

    maybe its a druze thing i dunno but, i can really see much more benefit to the money that was wasted on this sorry excuse of a trial on so many other needed projects than to see if the “butler did it”.

    EVERYBODY’S GUILTY SO LET’S INDICT THOSE WHO ARE AND ACCEPT THAT THE BOSSES IN SYRIA AND LEBANON ARE UNTOUCHABLES AND MOVE ON.

  • Tony A

    lol tarie lol they wont accept such rogue members in their agencies? lol man i’m laugihng so hard bro that you really made my day.

    you just dont have logic in your soul man.

    HA has no control over bad people from within which is why their network is infested with spies which will force them to cooperate.

    just so yo know tarie there’s nothing wrong with HA followers or any followers just as long as they’re not BLIND followers.

    i dunno if i’m missing something here but their takeover beirut was a bunch of tents.

    i would love for you tarie to start taking some responsibility for HA’s existence pre 82 then you will have tolerance over its present state of mind.

    i’m so sick and tired of this tribunal its beginning to look like OJ Simpson’s long and boooooooooorring trial.

    do you honestly think i’m clenching my teeth over this nonsense? when i talk to my family in lebanon over it they yawn. they have no clue what’s going on as they go on with their lives.

    maybe its a druze thing i dunno but, i can really see much more benefit to the money that was wasted on this sorry excuse of a trial on so many other needed projects than to see if the “butler did it”.

    EVERYBODY’S GUILTY SO LET’S INDICT THOSE WHO ARE AND ACCEPT THAT THE BOSSES IN SYRIA AND LEBANON ARE UNTOUCHABLES AND MOVE ON.

  • Tony A

    tarie if hezbollah wants to keep the spies in its own organisation then good for them cos that will be their downfall. you worry too much over silly things.

    allow time to expose the lies and the weak. a good example is the telecommunications. Ha foughthard to keep it and they’ve had several slaps in the face over the spies busted in their telecommunication network and within their party. do you not think they’re embarrassed. though they say they won’t be handed over, who knows what they’re doing to them behind closed doors.

    for someone who lives in the states, you really have not gotten hold of the interpretation of political statements or political agreements.

    when clinton said i did not have sex with that woman, did you believe him? why then did the UN applaud him for 5 minutes. Cos they all have mistresses (lucky bastards) and they all understood his situation. i actually applauded him as well fyi lol.

    just cos HA wont hand them over, they will deal with them and you better believe that OR maybe you think they’ll allow them to live freely and continue selling info to israel.

    nobody’s going anywhere and you might have forgotten that we were a french colony and we will never lose our freedom but that dignity you talk about, well, gee, aoun? Jumblatt? gemayel? Gaegae? i think that dignity was out the door a long time ago bro lol.

    we live free for sure lol

  • Tony A

    tarie if hezbollah wants to keep the spies in its own organisation then good for them cos that will be their downfall. you worry too much over silly things.

    allow time to expose the lies and the weak. a good example is the telecommunications. Ha foughthard to keep it and they’ve had several slaps in the face over the spies busted in their telecommunication network and within their party. do you not think they’re embarrassed. though they say they won’t be handed over, who knows what they’re doing to them behind closed doors.

    for someone who lives in the states, you really have not gotten hold of the interpretation of political statements or political agreements.

    when clinton said i did not have sex with that woman, did you believe him? why then did the UN applaud him for 5 minutes. Cos they all have mistresses (lucky bastards) and they all understood his situation. i actually applauded him as well fyi lol.

    just cos HA wont hand them over, they will deal with them and you better believe that OR maybe you think they’ll allow them to live freely and continue selling info to israel.

    nobody’s going anywhere and you might have forgotten that we were a french colony and we will never lose our freedom but that dignity you talk about, well, gee, aoun? Jumblatt? gemayel? Gaegae? i think that dignity was out the door a long time ago bro lol.

    we live free for sure lol

  • Tony A

    tarie if hezbollah wants to keep the spies in its own organisation then good for them cos that will be their downfall. you worry too much over silly things.

    allow time to expose the lies and the weak. a good example is the telecommunications. Ha foughthard to keep it and they’ve had several slaps in the face over the spies busted in their telecommunication network and within their party. do you not think they’re embarrassed. though they say they won’t be handed over, who knows what they’re doing to them behind closed doors.

    for someone who lives in the states, you really have not gotten hold of the interpretation of political statements or political agreements.

    when clinton said i did not have sex with that woman, did you believe him? why then did the UN applaud him for 5 minutes. Cos they all have mistresses (lucky bastards) and they all understood his situation. i actually applauded him as well fyi lol.

    just cos HA wont hand them over, they will deal with them and you better believe that OR maybe you think they’ll allow them to live freely and continue selling info to israel.

    nobody’s going anywhere and you might have forgotten that we were a french colony and we will never lose our freedom but that dignity you talk about, well, gee, aoun? Jumblatt? gemayel? Gaegae? i think that dignity was out the door a long time ago bro lol.

    we live free for sure lol

  • Tarie Al fanarie

    Tony I do not like any leader you mentioned so don’t think i am for any of them or follow them. I only care about lebanon stability. But whoever is the more dangerous elements that i go after them first. So Geagea and gemyal and jumblatt can talk all they like. But hezbollah put their talk into action. When they warned March 14th about not trying to mess with them over the communication network. Their warnings was heeded and we all know what the results are. Nassrallah is blaming the ISF and the Army about the spies. But for someone who has taking over the communications not just in 2008 but way before then. Let me tell you something hezbollah got a long long time ago very sophisticated electronic surveillance and can even Jam israelis communications and that’s why hezbollah was so successfull on many occassions when attacking israel. In 2004 hezbollah tried to kidnap israeli soldiers. The merkev tanks destroyed hezbollah positions. But hezbollah in all their operations they have someone taking videos of the operations. Iran studied the video and enhanced their technology to shoot the merkev with better and enhanced missiles. That’s why they succeeded in 2006 and israelis were caught by suprise. What am i leading up to hezbollah is using combinations of tactics. I am sure some spies where not caught and hezbollah eventually caught up with them and many others. Some were israelis allies during the war whether be it christians or muslims. Charbel Qazzi is i am told was an LF supporter. Could it possibly hezbollah is using him to target the STL and weaken Geagea position at the same time? was these guys whom they caught spying in the telecomunications ministries were innocent and hezbollah again using them to target the STL? its all possible that can sacrifice them as lambs in order to excuse themselves from the tribunal? all they can say these people had the ins and out of everything is controlled by hezbollah therefore they could have sets up? But these bombs were so big and powerful it will take a lot of corporation from inside to set to bring from outside and set them up. Unless you had control of the airport and borders and the spying gears all over beirut. Yes i am sick and tired of the STL. I am sick and tired of hezbollah and syria too. I am sick and tired of dealing with palestinians extremists. I am sick and tired of hearing we can’t enter the camps? i am sick and tired of hearing about electricity and road with tons of potholes. But we need to bring justice to those who deserve it. This is not just about hariri its about lebanon sufferings and the killings that took over 30 yrs. I am tired though and until all these parties relinquish their control over lebanon, then we can never sit at the table and talk without being intimidated by them. This is not addressed to you tony but to everyone who cares to read it..

  • Tarie Al fanarie

    Tony I do not like any leader you mentioned so don’t think i am for any of them or follow them. I only care about lebanon stability. But whoever is the more dangerous elements that i go after them first. So Geagea and gemyal and jumblatt can talk all they like. But hezbollah put their talk into action. When they warned March 14th about not trying to mess with them over the communication network. Their warnings was heeded and we all know what the results are. Nassrallah is blaming the ISF and the Army about the spies. But for someone who has taking over the communications not just in 2008 but way before then. Let me tell you something hezbollah got a long long time ago very sophisticated electronic surveillance and can even Jam israelis communications and that’s why hezbollah was so successfull on many occassions when attacking israel. In 2004 hezbollah tried to kidnap israeli soldiers. The merkev tanks destroyed hezbollah positions. But hezbollah in all their operations they have someone taking videos of the operations. Iran studied the video and enhanced their technology to shoot the merkev with better and enhanced missiles. That’s why they succeeded in 2006 and israelis were caught by suprise. What am i leading up to hezbollah is using combinations of tactics. I am sure some spies where not caught and hezbollah eventually caught up with them and many others. Some were israelis allies during the war whether be it christians or muslims. Charbel Qazzi is i am told was an LF supporter. Could it possibly hezbollah is using him to target the STL and weaken Geagea position at the same time? was these guys whom they caught spying in the telecomunications ministries were innocent and hezbollah again using them to target the STL? its all possible that can sacrifice them as lambs in order to excuse themselves from the tribunal? all they can say these people had the ins and out of everything is controlled by hezbollah therefore they could have sets up? But these bombs were so big and powerful it will take a lot of corporation from inside to set to bring from outside and set them up. Unless you had control of the airport and borders and the spying gears all over beirut. Yes i am sick and tired of the STL. I am sick and tired of hezbollah and syria too. I am sick and tired of dealing with palestinians extremists. I am sick and tired of hearing we can’t enter the camps? i am sick and tired of hearing about electricity and road with tons of potholes. But we need to bring justice to those who deserve it. This is not just about hariri its about lebanon sufferings and the killings that took over 30 yrs. I am tired though and until all these parties relinquish their control over lebanon, then we can never sit at the table and talk without being intimidated by them. This is not addressed to you tony but to everyone who cares to read it..

  • Tarie Al fanarie

    Tony I do not like any leader you mentioned so don’t think i am for any of them or follow them. I only care about lebanon stability. But whoever is the more dangerous elements that i go after them first. So Geagea and gemyal and jumblatt can talk all they like. But hezbollah put their talk into action. When they warned March 14th about not trying to mess with them over the communication network. Their warnings was heeded and we all know what the results are. Nassrallah is blaming the ISF and the Army about the spies. But for someone who has taking over the communications not just in 2008 but way before then. Let me tell you something hezbollah got a long long time ago very sophisticated electronic surveillance and can even Jam israelis communications and that’s why hezbollah was so successfull on many occassions when attacking israel. In 2004 hezbollah tried to kidnap israeli soldiers. The merkev tanks destroyed hezbollah positions. But hezbollah in all their operations they have someone taking videos of the operations. Iran studied the video and enhanced their technology to shoot the merkev with better and enhanced missiles. That’s why they succeeded in 2006 and israelis were caught by suprise. What am i leading up to hezbollah is using combinations of tactics. I am sure some spies where not caught and hezbollah eventually caught up with them and many others. Some were israelis allies during the war whether be it christians or muslims. Charbel Qazzi is i am told was an LF supporter. Could it possibly hezbollah is using him to target the STL and weaken Geagea position at the same time? was these guys whom they caught spying in the telecomunications ministries were innocent and hezbollah again using them to target the STL? its all possible that can sacrifice them as lambs in order to excuse themselves from the tribunal? all they can say these people had the ins and out of everything is controlled by hezbollah therefore they could have sets up? But these bombs were so big and powerful it will take a lot of corporation from inside to set to bring from outside and set them up. Unless you had control of the airport and borders and the spying gears all over beirut. Yes i am sick and tired of the STL. I am sick and tired of hezbollah and syria too. I am sick and tired of dealing with palestinians extremists. I am sick and tired of hearing we can’t enter the camps? i am sick and tired of hearing about electricity and road with tons of potholes. But we need to bring justice to those who deserve it. This is not just about hariri its about lebanon sufferings and the killings that took over 30 yrs. I am tired though and until all these parties relinquish their control over lebanon, then we can never sit at the table and talk without being intimidated by them. This is not addressed to you tony but to everyone who cares to read it..

  • fauzia

    If some are found guilty,they should be brought to justice!Nobody is untouchable!!!!

  • fauzia

    If some are found guilty,they should be brought to justice!Nobody is untouchable!!!!

  • Tarie Al fanarie

    Yes Fauzia i agree with you. But are you going to convince an army controlled by Hezbollah to arrest hezbollah members? In 2008 the army stood by while hezbollah killed and tortured lebanese and attacked the mountains. Then the lebanese army surrounded the druze area and confiscated their weapons? so who is going to arrest hezbollah members if found guilty? Amine Gemyal lol? they keep talking about false witneses who had false evidence. The issue is people like Mohamed Saddiq was not really dependent on the investigation. I heard even his testimony was dismissed. I would not be surprised if this guy was not planted by Syria to discredit the tribunal. but since he was not credible he really do not count. The evidence are hard and overwhelming against hezbollah i hear. So its not just words of witnesses. People say we’re rushing to judgment. But they’re the ones who are rushing to judgment by shouting and screamins as if they were convicted already. How come the spies were caught and hezbollah automatically assumed there were spies for israel? how do i know people like Charbel Qazzi who is supporter of the LF i heard be discrimanted against and were attacked immediately by hezbollah and supporters? the STL waited more than 5 yrs to come up with evidence yet hezbollah want to convince us these guys are spies and yet they just arrested them? again how do we know these people are truly spies and not used by hezbollah to discredit the STL and accuse israel of falsfying evidence. Its getting tiring to talk about it. its like scoopying suger with a fork..i have had enough and hope justice will prevail soon inshallah.

  • Tarie Al fanarie

    Yes Fauzia i agree with you. But are you going to convince an army controlled by Hezbollah to arrest hezbollah members? In 2008 the army stood by while hezbollah killed and tortured lebanese and attacked the mountains. Then the lebanese army surrounded the druze area and confiscated their weapons? so who is going to arrest hezbollah members if found guilty? Amine Gemyal lol? they keep talking about false witneses who had false evidence. The issue is people like Mohamed Saddiq was not really dependent on the investigation. I heard even his testimony was dismissed. I would not be surprised if this guy was not planted by Syria to discredit the tribunal. but since he was not credible he really do not count. The evidence are hard and overwhelming against hezbollah i hear. So its not just words of witnesses. People say we’re rushing to judgment. But they’re the ones who are rushing to judgment by shouting and screamins as if they were convicted already. How come the spies were caught and hezbollah automatically assumed there were spies for israel? how do i know people like Charbel Qazzi who is supporter of the LF i heard be discrimanted against and were attacked immediately by hezbollah and supporters? the STL waited more than 5 yrs to come up with evidence yet hezbollah want to convince us these guys are spies and yet they just arrested them? again how do we know these people are truly spies and not used by hezbollah to discredit the STL and accuse israel of falsfying evidence. Its getting tiring to talk about it. its like scoopying suger with a fork..i have had enough and hope justice will prevail soon inshallah.

  • fauzia

    Yes I agree!People are tired of all this but truth will come out sooner or later!The STL will continue its job in spite of all this pressure!Accusing it and discrediting it will not stop it!I believe that truth and justice will prevail in the end with patience,persistence and perseverance!

  • fauzia

    Yes I agree!People are tired of all this but truth will come out sooner or later!The STL will continue its job in spite of all this pressure!Accusing it and discrediting it will not stop it!I believe that truth and justice will prevail in the end with patience,persistence and perseverance!

  • Amine

    We knew the truth when it happened, who else will kill the man who cared for Lebanon and not Damascus or Tehran.

  • Amine

    We knew the truth when it happened, who else will kill the man who cared for Lebanon and not Damascus or Tehran.

  • r

    I think only he and the march 14th will be in trouble, and not the whole world. This guy is too small to even get a reply form HA. Seems like 14th has their hopes high for what could happen to HA. I say you better be afraid for what might happen to yourselves and your country by your anti-HA actions. Better get your israali 2nd class passport ready.

  • r

    I think only he and the march 14th will be in trouble, and not the whole world. This guy is too small to even get a reply form HA. Seems like 14th has their hopes high for what could happen to HA. I say you better be afraid for what might happen to yourselves and your country by your anti-HA actions. Better get your israali 2nd class passport ready.

  • Tony A

    well said fauzia. its what ive been trying to say but some people don’t like to hear the truth cos they’re all focussed on HA like as if indicting is gonna cause some major upheaval. its all nonsense and these findings are all politicial whether anybody likes it or not.

    the UN is in US pockets and who controls US, israel.

    i hope they truly indict everybody who was really involved and not just HA otherwise it will be an insult to my intelligence.

  • Tony A

    well said fauzia. its what ive been trying to say but some people don’t like to hear the truth cos they’re all focussed on HA like as if indicting is gonna cause some major upheaval. its all nonsense and these findings are all politicial whether anybody likes it or not.

    the UN is in US pockets and who controls US, israel.

    i hope they truly indict everybody who was really involved and not just HA otherwise it will be an insult to my intelligence.

  • joey

    ya R you are sound a proper syrian what is gonna happen please tell us nasralla gonna fart underground and shake the earth or what?or assad gonna wear a veil?

  • joey

    ya R you are sound a proper syrian what is gonna happen please tell us nasralla gonna fart underground and shake the earth or what?or assad gonna wear a veil?

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