any fatih il islam leader should be immediately put on a plane and sent to iran or afghanistan where they practice cos this small group of militants make it hard for the rest of the palestinian civilians to live in peace in lebanon.

why are they allowed to even exist in the first place?

why do they have weapons?

They named a new leader. We need his address, Credentials, and résumé.I might convince him to get another job where hate is forbidden, Killing is punished, Love is rewarded,and Going to heaven starts with donating blood to ill people, and helping feed the needy. I can promise him much more, but I’ll keep my expectations very modest. I know I’m fantasizing. LOL

I see why you keep getting thumbed down Tony, lol .JK buddy

Tony, I love your comments bass fateh el islam is not from Iran…it is a sunni group that was funded by Hariri jr & co initially.

Cathy, correct me if I’m wrong. Wasn’t Bahia Hariri the person who personally financed them?

cathy i apologise for my rudeness and lack of logic. i honestly had no idea where they came from or who funds them.

all i know is that all weapons should be banned in lebanon from civilians to HA and only the LAF should have them.

having said this, i agree with hariri that at least at this point, HA’s weapons arent the right time to dismantle YET.

prophet we also need to send them to deepak chopra seminars.

Prophet well said my friend. I just can’t believe we have let such monsters in our country.

I’ll send them anywhere as long as they get convinced that killing people for no reason isn’t the right way to ‘heaven’.

Elias,
Thanks, Remember our society (in all sects) is full of similar minded ones. That’s a result of our civil wars, and lack of law and order.

I beleive so Prophet…

Tony, no worries, I totally agree with you, they should be banned and shipped back to where they came from as these are not lebanese in any sense of the word….

These nuts are linked to al-qaeda and are just there to cause religious strife and chaos…

TFOU!

Tony,I’ll donate to that too. That might get me to some “heaven”. lol

I am so excited to hear they appointed new leader. And i will be more exicted when I see him and others go down as the previous ones. Please go do your Jihad somewhere else there is nothing for you in lebanon to fight for.

Cathy,

If they were funded by Hariri then why was it the Hariri government that ordered the LAF to take care of them in Naher il Bared? WHy is it that their leaders are hiding in Syria?.. and Why is it that the ones killed were killed going from saida all the way to the BEkaa in Chtoura which is the last stop on your way to damascus?

Prophet.. you claim that Bahia Hariri personally financed them.. and you say this because..? what is your source?

The Saudi’s have deals with Israel, it’s no secret.

Harriri is funded by the Saudis, there’s no secret.

Al Qaida was created by the CIA to fight the Russians in Afghanistan, that’s no secret.

These terrorist groups are all government funded in order to have an excuse to set up more and more of a police state, that’s no secret.

Good job Cathy!!!!

Mustapha,
I was asking a question.
I didn’t make the claim. I had read few stories about Bhaia Hariri supporting them financially. The Hariri Family, as far as I know, never issued a denial
It was also widely reported that they were getting checks from Mediterranean bank(Owned by the Hariri family) Just don’t shoot me If I got the bank name wrong.

Mustapha, I have also heard this from numerous sources.

why did the hariri govt order the LAF to take care of them in naher el bared, well what else was the lebanese govt supposed to do?
if they didnt, wouldnt they look guilty as hell?

ba3den the Syria’s ambassador Bashar Ja’afari, responding to anti-Syrian Lebanese, told Reuters that several of the organization’s members had been jailed for three or four years in Syria for connections to al-Qaeda, and that upon their release they had left the country. Ja’afari also said that, “If they come to Syria, they will be jailed,” and that, “They are not fighting on behalf of the Palestinian cause. They are fighting on behalf of al Qaeda”.

on top of that, this organization is in alliance with Jund el sham which the Syrian Army has participated in numerous gun battles with since 2004

so even if they are hiding in syria (no sources for that), that has nothing to do with the actual Syrian govt funding them…they are actually fighting them….

moustapha here is something I found written by Gary Gambill:

“For Hariri, political necessity dictates more than non-interference with Sunni radicals. With Shiites overwhelmingly backing Hezbollah’s opposition to the government, he has little choice but to try and replicate Shiite assabiyya (group solidarity) among Sunnis. Thus, Hariri lavishly donated money to mainstream, nonviolent Sunni Islamist groups in Lebanon, such as Al-Jamaa al-Islamiyya (the Lebanese branch of the Muslim Brotherhood), and turned a blind eye to the violent ones.

In February 2007, investigative journalist Seymour Hersh published a report claiming that the ruling coalition (i.e. 14 march movement) has funded Fatah al-Islam and other armed Islamist groups as a counterweight to Hezbollah.[19] Although March 14 leaders denied this claim, Siniora’s office raised suspicions by acknowledging “some organizations in the North and South have received aid from parties which have identified themselves as representatives of the Lebanese government or the Internal Security Forces.”[20] Apart from the Hariri family’s payoffs to Jund al-Sham, there is evidence of explicit funding of armed Sunni Islamist groups (which appear to receive most of their funding from wealthy donors in Saudi Arabia and other Arab Gulf States).[21] “

Cathy,

What you sited as your source is basicly saying that there was no organized funding to arm a militia and that it is all speculation based on the fact that:

** Siniora’s office raised suspicions by acknowledging “some organizations in the North and South have received aid from parties which have identified themselves as representatives of the Lebanese government or the Internal Security Forces.”**

Jund il Sham are actually supported by the Hizzy in the Ain el hilweh camp. So i don’t think they will fight with the Hizzy.

The speculation that it is the Hariri family who funded the militas and they did it personally(what a joke) bares no hard evidence and the only link is that these militas claim to be sunni. Which really means nothing. Sunni’s in Lebanon do not have 3assabiya and the Hariri family don’t need to buy the sunni’s in Lebanon guns to get their support. They have the sunni’s support regardlessly. So this prospective makes no sense. If anything the assaination on Rafik Hariri instilled this devotion from the sunni prospective.. does this mean the Hariri Jr killed his own father to gain full support from the sunni’s?

Why did Hizzy say when Naher il Bared was being attacked that fath il islam is a redline the government shouldn’t cross?

Prophet..lol..
i read my comment and i dont see how it seems like im being furious and ready to shoot you.. No need for guns bro.. when a person has a mind he doesnt need to resort to violence. And besides its your opinion its your right to it, and if each and every one of us is going to shoot the other for his opinion.. we’d all be dead lol. I never liked Bank Med lol.. peace dude.

Cathy,

Also my question to why they were caught heading to syria wasn’t answered.

Mustapha, No worries, It was just an expression. Plus, I’m WAY too far away, no gun can reach me from Lebanon, lol Peace Bro.

mustapha your question about why they were going to Syria was clearly answered.

they are allies with Jund el sham yet jund el sham have battled with the syrian army, thus syria is not behind them.

where did you get that jund el sham are allies with hizzy????????

and no, it is not speculations. These are very respected journalists whose reputation is worldwide known.

Seymour Hersh has never been wrong about anything he has published. he was proven right. I tend to beleive him rather than some religiously and politically biased person from Lebanon (whomever that may be)

Moustapha, can you please provide me with a link to where HA said this:
“Why did Hizzy say when Naher il Bared was being attacked that fath il islam is a redline the government shouldn’t cross ”

from what I heard, they were criticizing fateh el islam very adamently