If you do burn the Koran then the perpetrators of 9/11 won!
Really Shameful!

If you do burn the Koran then the perpetrators of 9/11 won!
Really Shameful!

This guy looks like a right wing extremists. He’s not christian and there is nothing in his words follow the christian path of salvation. He’s no different than Al Qaada for God’s Sake. Al Qaada breeds and feeds on this type of actions and it will burn both sides. no need to do this stupid and unethical acts. Burning the QUran should be stopped by the local police and not be allowed period.

This guy looks like a right wing extremists. He’s not christian and there is nothing in his words follow the christian path of salvation. He’s no different than Al Qaada for God’s Sake. Al Qaada breeds and feeds on this type of actions and it will burn both sides. no need to do this stupid and unethical acts. Burning the QUran should be stopped by the local police and not be allowed period.

“It’s also an ironic demonstration of how peaceful Muslims must feel when crazy people perform heinous acts in the name of their religion. These Quran burners certainly don’t represent ordinary peaceful Christians any more than the 9/11 murderers represent ordinary peaceful Muslims”

^Great Point^

“It’s also an ironic demonstration of how peaceful Muslims must feel when crazy people perform heinous acts in the name of their religion. These Quran burners certainly don’t represent ordinary peaceful Christians any more than the 9/11 murderers represent ordinary peaceful Muslims”

^Great Point^

Burning the qoran is a statement, how much should the western world yield to the demand of extremist. The use of logic seems to me as opportune and only when it serves the extremists purpose. In the US we have the freedom of speech and expression, you do not like it get the hell out of here. I have had enough of the rhetoric talked about every day. Muslim like me do not want the sharia laws to be instituted in this country, I left where I was to live free, happy, open minded and without my wife and my daughters having to hide their faces in the name of islam, and press my opinion (right or wrong) without being persecuted.
Burning an item like a book or a flag as an expression is not like stoning, killing, decapitating, disarming and individual for a sin committed, nor the mass suicide bombing occurring on a daily basis. That’s is appalling to me.

Burning the qoran is a statement, how much should the western world yield to the demand of extremist. The use of logic seems to me as opportune and only when it serves the extremists purpose. In the US we have the freedom of speech and expression, you do not like it get the hell out of here. I have had enough of the rhetoric talked about every day. Muslim like me do not want the sharia laws to be instituted in this country, I left where I was to live free, happy, open minded and without my wife and my daughters having to hide their faces in the name of islam, and press my opinion (right or wrong) without being persecuted.
Burning an item like a book or a flag as an expression is not like stoning, killing, decapitating, disarming and individual for a sin committed, nor the mass suicide bombing occurring on a daily basis. That’s is appalling to me.

Ali,
Two wrongs does not make it right!
Those burning the religious books are wrong. They are abusing the freedom of this country.
Wearing the hijab is a choice and not a must. It is between the woman and her God not between the woman and religious authority.

Ali,
Two wrongs does not make it right!
Those burning the religious books are wrong. They are abusing the freedom of this country.
Wearing the hijab is a choice and not a must. It is between the woman and her God not between the woman and religious authority.

Indeed, but not when it is forced upon you!!!!

Indeed, but not when it is forced upon you!!!!

Ali, I agree with you to a point, that no lives are being taken, but regardless there is a thing called respect, and this definately oversteps the boundaries,and is disrespectful, even to a “non-practicing muslim” like myself.

Ali, I agree with you to a point, that no lives are being taken, but regardless there is a thing called respect, and this definately oversteps the boundaries,and is disrespectful, even to a “non-practicing muslim” like myself.

Ali,
As a non religious Muslim myself, I’ve never encountered a Muslim, regardless of how nonreligious or Modern, or eve atheist Muslim, who sees the Quran burning as a simple statement. For you to say that it is a statement I suspect that your are not a Muslim at all. I also suspect that you can’t be a good Christian or good Jew either.
Any good human, regardless of what faith she or he is, would find the thought of burning a holy book (Quran , bible, or any holy book) is offensive .Even atheist who do not believe in any of these books, would oppose such an act out of respect to others feeling s and belief.
The idea of burning any book, holy or not, is a sign of ignorance, arrogance, and disregard to other’s intellectual or religious belief.
I would suggest that you stop impersonating some person named Ali. You should be ashamed of yourself. Your act as “a modern open minded Muslim” who wants to fit in is offensive to Muslims and non Muslims alike. Your claim to be civil and modern, really conflict with your stated opinion that burning the Quran is just a statement.

Ali,
As a non religious Muslim myself, I’ve never encountered a Muslim, regardless of how nonreligious or Modern, or eve atheist Muslim, who sees the Quran burning as a simple statement. For you to say that it is a statement I suspect that your are not a Muslim at all. I also suspect that you can’t be a good Christian or good Jew either.
Any good human, regardless of what faith she or he is, would find the thought of burning a holy book (Quran , bible, or any holy book) is offensive .Even atheist who do not believe in any of these books, would oppose such an act out of respect to others feeling s and belief.
The idea of burning any book, holy or not, is a sign of ignorance, arrogance, and disregard to other’s intellectual or religious belief.
I would suggest that you stop impersonating some person named Ali. You should be ashamed of yourself. Your act as “a modern open minded Muslim” who wants to fit in is offensive to Muslims and non Muslims alike. Your claim to be civil and modern, really conflict with your stated opinion that burning the Quran is just a statement.

Ali,
As a non religious Muslim myself, I’ve never encountered a Muslim, regardless of how nonreligious or Modern, or eve atheist Muslim, who sees the Quran burning as a simple statement. For you to say that it is a statement I suspect that your are not a Muslim at all. I also suspect that you can’t be a good Christian or good Jew either.
Any good human, regardless of what faith she or he is, would find the thought of burning a holy book (Quran , bible, or any holy book) is offensive .Even atheist who do not believe in any of these books, would oppose such an act out of respect to others feeling s and belief.
The idea of burning any book, holy or not, is a sign of ignorance, arrogance, and disregard to other’s intellectual or religious belief.
I would suggest that you stop impersonating some person named Ali. You should be ashamed of yourself. Your act as “a modern open minded Muslim” who wants to fit in is offensive to Muslims and non Muslims alike. Your claim to be civil and modern, really conflict with your stated opinion that burning the Quran is just a statement. I don’t know why you think you can fool people. I suspect that many people share my suspicions about you, but out of respect they don’t say anything to you. Your comment is very offensive, so is your impersonation.

Ali,
As a non religious Muslim myself, I’ve never encountered a Muslim, regardless of how nonreligious or Modern, or eve atheist Muslim, who sees the Quran burning as a simple statement. For you to say that it is a statement I suspect that your are not a Muslim at all. I also suspect that you can’t be a good Christian or good Jew either.
Any good human, regardless of what faith she or he is, would find the thought of burning a holy book (Quran , bible, or any holy book) is offensive .Even atheist who do not believe in any of these books, would oppose such an act out of respect to others feeling s and belief.
The idea of burning any book, holy or not, is a sign of ignorance, arrogance, and disregard to other’s intellectual or religious belief.
I would suggest that you stop impersonating some person named Ali. You should be ashamed of yourself. Your act as “a modern open minded Muslim” who wants to fit in is offensive to Muslims and non Muslims alike. Your claim to be civil and modern, really conflict with your stated opinion that burning the Quran is just a statement. I don’t know why you think you can fool people. I suspect that many people share my suspicions about you, but out of respect they don’t say anything to you. Your comment is very offensive, so is your impersonation.

Prophet,

You are on the spot on this. This man you suggesting to burn the Coran. Show no respect for the belief of other. He is instilling hate in the heart of his followers.

No one can in is right mind can agree with him, no matter what bacground you come from.

But althought he is wrong, I would add only in America. If he was in the middle east he would be kill on the spot…

Peace!!

Prophet,

You are on the spot on this. This man you suggesting to burn the Coran. Show no respect for the belief of other. He is instilling hate in the heart of his followers.

No one can in is right mind can agree with him, no matter what bacground you come from.

But althought he is wrong, I would add only in America. If he was in the middle east he would be kill on the spot…

Peace!!

I don’t see where in this article it is being implicated that Shariaa law is being instituted into US law? and thats why some idiots want to burn the Quran.

Oh Ali you are really “cool” you have the wow factor! Your name is Ali yet your opinion is to side against Islam.. WOW.. how about i add Masha’Allah!

Muslims like you seem to have forgotten the importance of every word that comes out of the book that you have no regard for whether someone makes an imbecilic act of aggression.

It doesn’t mean that if events took place and it was slapped in the name of Islam, that all muslims support, practice or permit such acts or events.

Every person has the right to choose her/his religon, yet, that doesn’t mean you loose self respect also. I am sick and tired of self-hating muslims who try to appease all non-muslims just so they can fit in, even if it means to side with extreme of the opposing side. What a rational, modest, and educated way to approach things. You are just as bad as some of those pathetic muslims who act extremely in burning cars and tires and shoot guns in the air when they get mad.

Your choice of extremism is just as bad as those douchbags who you claim to have left from in order for your wife and daughters to not be persecuted.

People please grow up and learn to have common decency and self respect.

In the end its your opinion mr. Ali and your prerogative to make, support any one you want,confession, and uphold any mentality you choose to have, but don’t think that you can impose and affect others opinions and choice of confession just because you choose not to.

Muslim like me believe in “treat people the way you want to be treated.” And extremism is an absolute evil that is forbidden regardless of it being a muslim, christian or any other kind of extremism.

Thank you Walid for having a just and descent perception of things. If only more people muslim or non had more of your common decency things would be different in this world.

I don’t see where in this article it is being implicated that Shariaa law is being instituted into US law? and thats why some idiots want to burn the Quran.

Oh Ali you are really “cool” you have the wow factor! Your name is Ali yet your opinion is to side against Islam.. WOW.. how about i add Masha’Allah!

Muslims like you seem to have forgotten the importance of every word that comes out of the book that you have no regard for whether someone makes an imbecilic act of aggression.

It doesn’t mean that if events took place and it was slapped in the name of Islam, that all muslims support, practice or permit such acts or events.

Every person has the right to choose her/his religon, yet, that doesn’t mean you loose self respect also. I am sick and tired of self-hating muslims who try to appease all non-muslims just so they can fit in, even if it means to side with extreme of the opposing side. What a rational, modest, and educated way to approach things. You are just as bad as some of those pathetic muslims who act extremely in burning cars and tires and shoot guns in the air when they get mad.

Your choice of extremism is just as bad as those douchbags who you claim to have left from in order for your wife and daughters to not be persecuted.

People please grow up and learn to have common decency and self respect.

In the end its your opinion mr. Ali and your prerogative to make, support any one you want,confession, and uphold any mentality you choose to have, but don’t think that you can impose and affect others opinions and choice of confession just because you choose not to.

Muslim like me believe in “treat people the way you want to be treated.” And extremism is an absolute evil that is forbidden regardless of it being a muslim, christian or any other kind of extremism.

Thank you Walid for having a just and descent perception of things. If only more people muslim or non had more of your common decency things would be different in this world.

Moustapha,

You are a man of reason, I myself as a Christian I condem with all my heart and soul this man who hide behind is religion. In order to convey is message of hate. If you ask me this man is part of what create conflict and war in the world. He doesn,t built peace to say the least.

I dream of the day when in lebanon we can express ourselt as freely as this Idioc man can in is own country…

Peace to you Brother!!

Moustapha,

You are a man of reason, I myself as a Christian I condem with all my heart and soul this man who hide behind is religion. In order to convey is message of hate. If you ask me this man is part of what create conflict and war in the world. He doesn,t built peace to say the least.

I dream of the day when in lebanon we can express ourselt as freely as this Idioc man can in is own country…

Peace to you Brother!!

Yep yep, Ya all you forgot that you are not in the middle east, you forgot why you left the ME. Your statements make me sick, as you are trying to be moderate, yet you invoke and support the killing process for a muslim who spoke his mind. May be you should migrate back to where you came from.

Yep yep, Ya all you forgot that you are not in the middle east, you forgot why you left the ME. Your statements make me sick, as you are trying to be moderate, yet you invoke and support the killing process for a muslim who spoke his mind. May be you should migrate back to where you came from.

Ali,

I understand your opinion. But I don’t see how we can build a more open an free lebanon, with backing hatred act.

This man don’t you think is advocation war and conflict.

Do you actually believe that I will support any killing of any man who speak is mind of course not.
I wish lebanon could be more like the US when someone speak is mind.

But I will never agree with this man or any man who promote hate amoung their people (althougth they have a right to do so ).

Please lets us choose the side of reason for once!!

Peace to you

Ali,

I understand your opinion. But I don’t see how we can build a more open an free lebanon, with backing hatred act.

This man don’t you think is advocation war and conflict.

Do you actually believe that I will support any killing of any man who speak is mind of course not.
I wish lebanon could be more like the US when someone speak is mind.

But I will never agree with this man or any man who promote hate amoung their people (althougth they have a right to do so ).

Please lets us choose the side of reason for once!!

Peace to you

No Ali, not trying to be moderate. we are moderate. I don’t see where you come up with us invoking and supporting the killing of a muslim who spoke his mind. Lol! sir your a joke.

You are mistaken Ali, I did not leave my country because of Islam. I left it due to the lack of it.

Allah yihdeena jami3an.

No Ali, not trying to be moderate. we are moderate. I don’t see where you come up with us invoking and supporting the killing of a muslim who spoke his mind. Lol! sir your a joke.

You are mistaken Ali, I did not leave my country because of Islam. I left it due to the lack of it.

Allah yihdeena jami3an.

Marc,

I can say the same to you bro. Allahy zeed min 2amtalak.

Yes you are right, this mentality is what we would call “fitna.” Its really sad bess obviously thats the way the world is. I hope the same Marc, I hope that the muslims and christians of Lebanon can go back to their basic teachings of their belief system in order to find that common ground that will make them unite against all Lebanon’s enemies.

Peace to you my brother Marc.

Wrong, wrong and dead wrong. Why when someone speaks the truth and says something you do not agree with you turn it into an impersonation issue!!! Stop being ludicrous and hypocrite.

Marc,

I can say the same to you bro. Allahy zeed min 2amtalak.

Yes you are right, this mentality is what we would call “fitna.” Its really sad bess obviously thats the way the world is. I hope the same Marc, I hope that the muslims and christians of Lebanon can go back to their basic teachings of their belief system in order to find that common ground that will make them unite against all Lebanon’s enemies.

Peace to you my brother Marc.

Wrong, wrong and dead wrong. Why when someone speaks the truth and says something you do not agree with you turn it into an impersonation issue!!! Stop being ludicrous and hypocrite.

I understand from your comment Ali that those people from that church are being forced to burn the Quran.

I understand from your comment Ali that those people from that church are being forced to burn the Quran.

I appreciate your true and honest opinion, but you are a little short with your statement when you said: “Wearing the hijab is a choice and not a must. It is between the woman and her God not between the woman and religious authority”. Today it is between a woman and her man who is getting $200.00 a monthe for wearing it.

I appreciate your true and honest opinion, but you are a little short with your statement when you said: “Wearing the hijab is a choice and not a must. It is between the woman and her God not between the woman and religious authority”. Today it is between a woman and her man who is getting $200.00 a monthe for wearing it.

ALI you are a pure idiot…

ALI you are a pure idiot…

Burn publicly what u want, after the 11/9 and the answer all over the world against muslims i doubt a book gonna change something.

Burn publicly what u want, after the 11/9 and the answer all over the world against muslims i doubt a book gonna change something.

It takes one to know one and you are proud of it.

It takes one to know one and you are proud of it.

Ali, I think you’re a coward christian hiding behind the name Ali to make a point. your statements are just ridiculous. even us christians dont agree with this and you do?

you can have freedom of speech as long as it doesnt cross the respect for others’ religous freedoms.

if a bunch of extremist muslims burn the bible, I would be very upset and would HOPE that other muslims speak out against it.

just like I find not enough muslims speak out against the massacres against christians in Sudan, Egypt and other african countries.

freedom of speach comes with other freedoms as well, and that includes freedom of religion and the right to be respected no matter what religion you are from.

by the way ALI, this can be categorized as a hate crime…if something like this was happening against the jewish community, there would endless outcries of anti-semitism and with right.

I dont know which country you are talking about or come from. I know that this is not the case in Lebanon and definitely not the case in many muslim countries.

Step outside your insecure box ali, and go to Malaysia, Indonesia, Morrocco, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, UAE, Qatar, Surprisingly Saudi(Jedda), Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman Turkey… Most women choose to wear the hijab or choose not to, and the reason why i can make that statement is because there is an extremely significant amount of women who choose NOT to. In fact there are probably more women not wearing then wearing.

Do you also consider these women being “forced” to “not” wear it and their men are being paid $200.

Please Ali, lets be real. I do agree you find women oppressed in the middle east, and it is out right wrong. But you find women oppressed every where in the world and there is no relation to religion. People act in certain ways and that doesn’t mean if they claim to be muslim then they are acting as good examples for islam.

I’ll give you an example. the saudi royal family is in power and supposedly they are the rulers of the most significant islamic country. Well in Islam it is forbidden to have a King ship or inheritance of the thrown that rules the islamic ummah. So yes they call them selves muslims but they are acting the complete opposite of the teachings just to suit their agenda.

My mom and sisters do not wear hijab and they all “choose” not to. My wife neither. It doesn’t mean that if they choose to sometime in their life that means they are oppressed or forced to.

Dude, if you live in the US, out of all people you should know what it means to be a muslim, the muslims here are the closest to finding an amazing balance of moderation while upholding every single islamic right they have, and NON of them are FORCED to wear hijab, they choose to wear it. So please open your eyes. I would say smell the coffee but i assume you are fasting.

Peace

Ali, I think you’re a coward christian hiding behind the name Ali to make a point. your statements are just ridiculous. even us christians dont agree with this and you do?

you can have freedom of speech as long as it doesnt cross the respect for others’ religous freedoms.

if a bunch of extremist muslims burn the bible, I would be very upset and would HOPE that other muslims speak out against it.

just like I find not enough muslims speak out against the massacres against christians in Sudan, Egypt and other african countries.

freedom of speach comes with other freedoms as well, and that includes freedom of religion and the right to be respected no matter what religion you are from.

by the way ALI, this can be categorized as a hate crime…if something like this was happening against the jewish community, there would endless outcries of anti-semitism and with right.

I dont know which country you are talking about or come from. I know that this is not the case in Lebanon and definitely not the case in many muslim countries.

Step outside your insecure box ali, and go to Malaysia, Indonesia, Morrocco, Egypt, Syria, Jordan, UAE, Qatar, Surprisingly Saudi(Jedda), Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman Turkey… Most women choose to wear the hijab or choose not to, and the reason why i can make that statement is because there is an extremely significant amount of women who choose NOT to. In fact there are probably more women not wearing then wearing.

Do you also consider these women being “forced” to “not” wear it and their men are being paid $200.

Please Ali, lets be real. I do agree you find women oppressed in the middle east, and it is out right wrong. But you find women oppressed every where in the world and there is no relation to religion. People act in certain ways and that doesn’t mean if they claim to be muslim then they are acting as good examples for islam.

I’ll give you an example. the saudi royal family is in power and supposedly they are the rulers of the most significant islamic country. Well in Islam it is forbidden to have a King ship or inheritance of the thrown that rules the islamic ummah. So yes they call them selves muslims but they are acting the complete opposite of the teachings just to suit their agenda.

My mom and sisters do not wear hijab and they all “choose” not to. My wife neither. It doesn’t mean that if they choose to sometime in their life that means they are oppressed or forced to.

Dude, if you live in the US, out of all people you should know what it means to be a muslim, the muslims here are the closest to finding an amazing balance of moderation while upholding every single islamic right they have, and NON of them are FORCED to wear hijab, they choose to wear it. So please open your eyes. I would say smell the coffee but i assume you are fasting.

Peace

Ali, you don’t know what the word truth means.
You don’t tell any truth when you say things, because you think others would like hear. That would simply be appeasing others. The irony is that the others aren’t impressed by your self hatred and appeasement. That makes others loose respect for you and suspect your Genuinity.
When a person like you, thinks that burring a holy book is a personal right and a simple statement, It tells enough about your values and ethics.
No one is discussing this man’s right to do , or not do anything, We’re simply discussing the morality and ethics, and disrespect that his actions show.
A man can have the right to own a gun, yet when if he shoots someone to death, it isn’t his rights to carry a gun that he’ll be judged on, but rather what he has done with his rights.
I doubt that you would earn any respect from non Muslims bye telling us your “truth”. You are entitled to your opinions, and we’re judging your opinions, and in the process, your ethics, self respect, and respect for others. Again Ali, In American you do have the right to disrespect people, and the consequence of that is, disrespect by others toward you

Ali, you don’t know what the word truth means.
You don’t tell any truth when you say things, because you think others would like hear. That would simply be appeasing others. The irony is that the others aren’t impressed by your self hatred and appeasement. That makes others loose respect for you and suspect your Genuinity.
When a person like you, thinks that burring a holy book is a personal right and a simple statement, It tells enough about your values and ethics.
No one is discussing this man’s right to do , or not do anything, We’re simply discussing the morality and ethics, and disrespect that his actions show.
A man can have the right to own a gun, yet when if he shoots someone to death, it isn’t his rights to carry a gun that he’ll be judged on, but rather what he has done with his rights.
I doubt that you would earn any respect from non Muslims bye telling us your “truth”. You are entitled to your opinions, and we’re judging your opinions, and in the process, your ethics, self respect, and respect for others. Again Ali, In American you do have the right to disrespect people, and the consequence of that is, disrespect by others toward you

If they give me $200/month I’ll wear it LOL

If they give me $200/month I’ll wear it LOL

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

LOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!

WoW my Southern Brother. Talk about tap out! = ) Hope you had a good weekend.

WoW my Southern Brother. Talk about tap out! = ) Hope you had a good weekend.

This is indeed alarming!Fanatics found in all religions are a serious menace!All religions ,all sacred books should be respected and all places of worship be they churches,mosques or synagogues should be held in reverence by every one !!!This plan must not only be condemned but definitely stopped !!! !The world is in need of tolerance not fanaticism!!!

This is indeed alarming!Fanatics found in all religions are a serious menace!All religions ,all sacred books should be respected and all places of worship be they churches,mosques or synagogues should be held in reverence by every one !!!This plan must not only be condemned but definitely stopped !!! !The world is in need of tolerance not fanaticism!!!

Mustaphaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. how are you YA HABIBI?YES WEEKEND WAS GOOD MY FELLOW JNUBI,LOL

EID MUBARAK TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

Mustaphaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. how are you YA HABIBI?YES WEEKEND WAS GOOD MY FELLOW JNUBI,LOL

EID MUBARAK TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

FAUZIA, AND OTHERS,
YOU HAVE AN OPTION, A PROPHET IS HERE, FOLLOW ME,LOL

FAUZIA, AND OTHERS,
YOU HAVE AN OPTION, A PROPHET IS HERE, FOLLOW ME,LOL

Will I get my 70 harams if I followed you too?

Will I get my 70 harams if I followed you too?

HORN DOG.LOL

HORN DOG.LOL

Where in the qoran does it allow for barbaric actions such as stoning a woman that wanted to be loved and engaged in a sexual. How come we do not credit the international society by denouncing such action: “Iran’s stoning sentence for a woman convicted of adultery intensified Tuesday with a top European Union official calling it “barbaric” and an Iranian spokesman saying it’s about punishing a criminal and not a human rights issue”

Where in the qoran does it allow for barbaric actions such as stoning a woman that wanted to be loved and engaged in a sexual. How come we do not credit the international society by denouncing such action: “Iran’s stoning sentence for a woman convicted of adultery intensified Tuesday with a top European Union official calling it “barbaric” and an Iranian spokesman saying it’s about punishing a criminal and not a human rights issue”

Lot of people here are startin to get scared again, cuz of the environment, some are even comparing it to “9-11 times”, I personally have not witnessed any nastiness towards me, lol and i always blast arabic music in my car. However, I dont per say look arabic, oh well, I was watching a protest by the proposed mosque by ground zero, and the crowd was attacking people that looked “muslim” Some people are just so stupid, most of them are uneducated white trash,cuz i never see anything like that in NYC especially, they must all be from the south or something. and Ali, Im not questioning your religion, Im just questioning the type of person you are, Its one thing to not be a strict fanatic, and to have freedom to practice your religion the way you want, but its another thing to take something so serious and degrading with a grain of salt. I bet you probably condone burning mosques as well, as long as no one is injured? Allah yihdee il jami3.

Lot of people here are startin to get scared again, cuz of the environment, some are even comparing it to “9-11 times”, I personally have not witnessed any nastiness towards me, lol and i always blast arabic music in my car. However, I dont per say look arabic, oh well, I was watching a protest by the proposed mosque by ground zero, and the crowd was attacking people that looked “muslim” Some people are just so stupid, most of them are uneducated white trash,cuz i never see anything like that in NYC especially, they must all be from the south or something. and Ali, Im not questioning your religion, Im just questioning the type of person you are, Its one thing to not be a strict fanatic, and to have freedom to practice your religion the way you want, but its another thing to take something so serious and degrading with a grain of salt. I bet you probably condone burning mosques as well, as long as no one is injured? Allah yihdee il jami3.

your comparing apples to oranges, what the he11 does stoning in iran have anything to do with the quran burning? If maybe the article said, “praise Iran for killing its citizens, and condemn the quran burners”, then your comment would make sense, but now your just going all over the place and getting messy. just stop man.

your comparing apples to oranges, what the he11 does stoning in iran have anything to do with the quran burning? If maybe the article said, “praise Iran for killing its citizens, and condemn the quran burners”, then your comment would make sense, but now your just going all over the place and getting messy. just stop man.

LOL HABIBI! ou 3aleik wil 3ayleh ya rab. Its crazy how fast the month went by.

LOL HABIBI! ou 3aleik wil 3ayleh ya rab. Its crazy how fast the month went by.

I do not know what inspires you. One should live and let live, you cannot impose on anyone nor anyone can impose on you. What others practice in their lands, should not be practiced here, and if you do you do it within your realm. Once reciprocity opens to all faith anywhere in he world, then I welcome your comments.

I do not know what inspires you. One should live and let live, you cannot impose on anyone nor anyone can impose on you. What others practice in their lands, should not be practiced here, and if you do you do it within your realm. Once reciprocity opens to all faith anywhere in he world, then I welcome your comments.

LEB-SYRIA,
I walk around wearing a t-shirt that says:We won’t be silent,in arabic and in english.لن نصمت I ‘ve never encountered any problems,and don’t excpt to either .

Why should I stop. The qoran is our guidance and we shall follow it..No!!! So you do not like controversy, even when it is down your nose and you ignore it

LEB-SYRIA,
I walk around wearing a t-shirt that says:We won’t be silent,in arabic and in english.لن نصمت I ‘ve never encountered any problems,and don’t excpt to either .

Why should I stop. The qoran is our guidance and we shall follow it..No!!! So you do not like controversy, even when it is down your nose and you ignore it

Cut the shakesperean crap out, who are you answering to?, Just because you used big words, does not mean any of it makes sense.

Cut the shakesperean crap out, who are you answering to?, Just because you used big words, does not mean any of it makes sense.

Good for you and you should not be silent period. Opinions, discussions, controversies and dialogues are the roots of co-existence and harmony.

niiice, where can i get one? I wana get my name tattooed on my chest in arabic haha. but then id have to walk around shirtless.

Good for you and you should not be silent period. Opinions, discussions, controversies and dialogues are the roots of co-existence and harmony.

niiice, where can i get one? I wana get my name tattooed on my chest in arabic haha. but then id have to walk around shirtless.

I gave a thumb up and agreed with you and still gotten a thumb down. Oh it must be the big words.

I gave a thumb up and agreed with you and still gotten a thumb down. Oh it must be the big words.

LEB-SYRIA

ALI IS PRETENDING TO BE A MUSLIM.HE’S JUST A LOW LIFE, IGNORANT PERSON. HE’D BE A DISGRACE TO ANY RELIGION.EVERYONE IS STARTING TO REALIZE THAT ABOUT HIM.
NOTICE HOW HE JUMPS FROM ONE SUBJECT TO ANOTHER. ALWAYS PRETENDING TO BE A MUSLIM, YET HIGHLIGHTING NEGATIVITY IN MUSLIM COUTRIES. WHO EVER TOLD HIM THAT WHAT IRAN OR SAUDI ARABIA DOES REALLY REPRESENT WHAT ISLAM IS ALL ABOUT?

LEB-SYRIA

ALI IS PRETENDING TO BE A MUSLIM.HE’S JUST A LOW LIFE, IGNORANT PERSON. HE’D BE A DISGRACE TO ANY RELIGION.EVERYONE IS STARTING TO REALIZE THAT ABOUT HIM.
NOTICE HOW HE JUMPS FROM ONE SUBJECT TO ANOTHER. ALWAYS PRETENDING TO BE A MUSLIM, YET HIGHLIGHTING NEGATIVITY IN MUSLIM COUTRIES. WHO EVER TOLD HIM THAT WHAT IRAN OR SAUDI ARABIA DOES REALLY REPRESENT WHAT ISLAM IS ALL ABOUT?

fyi, im not the only person with access “thumbing abilities” nor do i care about ratings. Neither do I have anything against you, my words may be harsh at times, but always wish peace and happiness to everyone, and everyone has the right to their own beliefs, but I am just so shocked that you could justify or condone a public burning of a holy book of any kind, and i am not only defending it because i am muslim, and neither am i religious, but i defend it out of respect, the same way i would if it were a torah or a bible, or for heavens sake even a book of witchcraft, just out of respect for our fellow human beings. But not everyone sees eye to eye, and I respect that. We can just agree to disagree, have a great day!

You should stop because the Quran does not state “rajem” for fornication or adultery, it is in fact a hadith that was written a few hundred years after the death of the prophet and there are many religious scholars that are against the penalty of stoning since the hadith conflicts with the Quranic verse states the person should be flogged whether male or female. The scholars have doubt of the hadith’s authenticity.

Now I don’t want to debate on what i think about fornication or adultery, BUT, what might be a simple act to you, to someone else can be a treacherous act.

The fact of the matter is just like someone in the US can fornicate and commit adultery like it is drinking water, the people in the US who want to be here have to abide by the law that allows them to do so as long as it doesn’t force the person who is in the US to practice such acts. But equally just as you have to respect the law of the US you have to respect the Law of a country that perceives fornication/adultery as a crime.

Simple. Peace.

LEB-SYRIA

I BOUGHT THEM IN A FUND RAISING FOR GHAZZA FEW YEARS AGAO.

fyi, im not the only person with access “thumbing abilities” nor do i care about ratings. Neither do I have anything against you, my words may be harsh at times, but always wish peace and happiness to everyone, and everyone has the right to their own beliefs, but I am just so shocked that you could justify or condone a public burning of a holy book of any kind, and i am not only defending it because i am muslim, and neither am i religious, but i defend it out of respect, the same way i would if it were a torah or a bible, or for heavens sake even a book of witchcraft, just out of respect for our fellow human beings. But not everyone sees eye to eye, and I respect that. We can just agree to disagree, have a great day!

You should stop because the Quran does not state “rajem” for fornication or adultery, it is in fact a hadith that was written a few hundred years after the death of the prophet and there are many religious scholars that are against the penalty of stoning since the hadith conflicts with the Quranic verse states the person should be flogged whether male or female. The scholars have doubt of the hadith’s authenticity.

Now I don’t want to debate on what i think about fornication or adultery, BUT, what might be a simple act to you, to someone else can be a treacherous act.

The fact of the matter is just like someone in the US can fornicate and commit adultery like it is drinking water, the people in the US who want to be here have to abide by the law that allows them to do so as long as it doesn’t force the person who is in the US to practice such acts. But equally just as you have to respect the law of the US you have to respect the Law of a country that perceives fornication/adultery as a crime.

Simple. Peace.

LEB-SYRIA

I BOUGHT THEM IN A FUND RAISING FOR GHAZZA FEW YEARS AGAO.

ALI IS CRYING BECAUSE HE’S GETTING THE FINGER.LOL

ALI IS CRYING BECAUSE HE’S GETTING THE FINGER.LOL

Try to wear this t-shirt in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen, Irak, Pakistan, etc… with a cross drawn on it (i.e. Christians will not shut up any more)…
Would you get the same reaction you get in America wearing this t-shirt ? NO my friend! You would be harrassed and maybe put in jail and tortured.

Not one country or any sect or any group should ever represent what any religion is about. Religion comes from your inner self, and is your connection with god, and no one has the right to judge, or force anything upon you.-(obviously unless you do harm unto others in the name of your religion.)

Try to wear this t-shirt in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Afghanistan, Yemen, Irak, Pakistan, etc… with a cross drawn on it (i.e. Christians will not shut up any more)…
Would you get the same reaction you get in America wearing this t-shirt ? NO my friend! You would be harrassed and maybe put in jail and tortured.

Not one country or any sect or any group should ever represent what any religion is about. Religion comes from your inner self, and is your connection with god, and no one has the right to judge, or force anything upon you.-(obviously unless you do harm unto others in the name of your religion.)

To the PROPHET in DENIAL, your use of capital letters indicates that you are fuming, irate and frustrated. Just because you do not like what you hear, it does not mean that I am pretending. If you want to deal with an issue, you deal with it as a whole not partially. Please go and have a life, rather than being a hypocrite that won’t accept criticism and hide your head in the sand.

To the PROPHET in DENIAL, your use of capital letters indicates that you are fuming, irate and frustrated. Just because you do not like what you hear, it does not mean that I am pretending. If you want to deal with an issue, you deal with it as a whole not partially. Please go and have a life, rather than being a hypocrite that won’t accept criticism and hide your head in the sand.

Constantin, the thing is, he said his shirt says “we will not be silent anymore”, there are muslims as well as christians in palestine, where on his shirt does it say muslims will not be silent anymore?

Since you mentioned it, that finger is going only in one place and you know where.

Constantin, the thing is, he said his shirt says “we will not be silent anymore”, there are muslims as well as christians in palestine, where on his shirt does it say muslims will not be silent anymore?

Since you mentioned it, that finger is going only in one place and you know where.

Im sure if he wore a shirt that says Muslims will not be silent anymore in any christian country, he would be abused. Please don’t be blind and foold, we have freedom of speech and tolerance here, but its fake, just look at helen thomas, and octavia nasr as prime examples.

fooled*

Im sure if he wore a shirt that says Muslims will not be silent anymore in any christian country, he would be abused. Please don’t be blind and foold, we have freedom of speech and tolerance here, but its fake, just look at helen thomas, and octavia nasr as prime examples.

fooled*

Leb-Syrian,

You do have a point you’re right, but neverthless a muslim living in any western country has much much more freedom than a Christian living in any Arab or muslim country, this is a fact. This is why Arab christians and muslims go to live in the west. This is my whole point here.

Leb-Syrian,

You do have a point you’re right, but neverthless a muslim living in any western country has much much more freedom than a Christian living in any Arab or muslim country, this is a fact. This is why Arab christians and muslims go to live in the west. This is my whole point here.

Constantin
I’d correct you on one thing; Iran has a large Christian community .I believe they practice their faith freely. Last time Aoun visited Iran, We all saw how they held a mass in an Armenian church.
I share your opinion on that. Many Arab and Muslim countries don’t have the kind of tolerance we’re demanding here. Having said that, I don’t think I, as a Muslim, should be blamed for that. I will Take responsibility for my own action, and do my best to promote tolerance toward all human kind, regardless of what faith they follow, or what color skin they have. I believe that all humans are born equal, and should be treated equal. Every one should be able to practice his/her faith with out having any fear or interference. Not everything Muslim countries do represent Islam. Many of the countries you named mistreat their own Muslim citizen.
Gibran said it best;
“I love you when you bow in your mosque, kneel in your temple, pray in your church. For you and I are sons of one religion, and it is the spirit.”

No my dear Brother Constantin, you are wrong again. The only drive of us arabs, or to be more precise us Lebanese, to leave Lebanon is strictly to make a living. And not because we don’t have our rights.

If you have money in Lebanon you do whatever you want. You want to be religious to the point where you stay home, or you want to be open minded where you live at the club and visit a place once called home. You choose.

Even Saudi now has a phenomenon called the city of Jeddah which is extremely liberal compared to what we used to hear about KSA. And if you look at it from socio perspective, the rate of growth and advancement of this desert country is amazing! Qatar for example will be the first country in the world to run on FULL GREEN ENERGY!

By the way how are you bro. How is everything? Its been a while we havent talked.. lol its funny how the articles that deal with dogging on islam always put us on the same webpage = )

Peace

Constantin
I’d correct you on one thing; Iran has a large Christian community .I believe they practice their faith freely. Last time Aoun visited Iran, We all saw how they held a mass in an Armenian church.
I share your opinion on that. Many Arab and Muslim countries don’t have the kind of tolerance we’re demanding here. Having said that, I don’t think I, as a Muslim, should be blamed for that. I will Take responsibility for my own action, and do my best to promote tolerance toward all human kind, regardless of what faith they follow, or what color skin they have. I believe that all humans are born equal, and should be treated equal. Every one should be able to practice his/her faith with out having any fear or interference. Not everything Muslim countries do represent Islam. Many of the countries you named mistreat their own Muslim citizen.
Gibran said it best;
“I love you when you bow in your mosque, kneel in your temple, pray in your church. For you and I are sons of one religion, and it is the spirit.”

No my dear Brother Constantin, you are wrong again. The only drive of us arabs, or to be more precise us Lebanese, to leave Lebanon is strictly to make a living. And not because we don’t have our rights.

If you have money in Lebanon you do whatever you want. You want to be religious to the point where you stay home, or you want to be open minded where you live at the club and visit a place once called home. You choose.

Even Saudi now has a phenomenon called the city of Jeddah which is extremely liberal compared to what we used to hear about KSA. And if you look at it from socio perspective, the rate of growth and advancement of this desert country is amazing! Qatar for example will be the first country in the world to run on FULL GREEN ENERGY!

By the way how are you bro. How is everything? Its been a while we havent talked.. lol its funny how the articles that deal with dogging on islam always put us on the same webpage = )

Peace

Oh and one last point..
this is why you find a lot of christians from lebanon live in these arab countries which is for the Money.

And they live in compounds and do whatever they wish to as long as they respect the laws outside of the compounds walls. Food for thought =)

So it is strictly for financial reasons and not anything else bro.

Peace

Oh and one last point..
this is why you find a lot of christians from lebanon live in these arab countries which is for the Money.

And they live in compounds and do whatever they wish to as long as they respect the laws outside of the compounds walls. Food for thought =)

So it is strictly for financial reasons and not anything else bro.

Peace

Ali,
You’re such hypocrite. You have many issues to deal with. You have the right to be whatever you want. Be an idiot, liar, self hater, or stupid. But don’t be an imposter. You are not who you claim to be. Your name isn’t Ali. You’re here to spread hatred, and false information.

Ali,
You’re such hypocrite. You have many issues to deal with. You have the right to be whatever you want. Be an idiot, liar, self hater, or stupid. But don’t be an imposter. You are not who you claim to be. Your name isn’t Ali. You’re here to spread hatred, and false information.

Thank you Ali, your are so kind.Get lost now..

Thank you Ali, your are so kind.Get lost now..

Here you go, when you cannot face reality, you start by making allegation. Just because I am not your kind of muslim, it does not mean I am an imposter.

Here you go, when you cannot face reality, you start by making allegation. Just because I am not your kind of muslim, it does not mean I am an imposter.

Ali, you’re such a unique creature. I refuse to be like you. Thank you very much.
I refuse to go the same heaven you wish to go to.
If I was to go to hell, I will demand a different hell.
I won’t share hell with you.

Ali, you’re such a unique creature. I refuse to be like you. Thank you very much.
I refuse to go the same heaven you wish to go to.
If I was to go to hell, I will demand a different hell.
I won’t share hell with you.

Hi Moustapha,

For the Lebanese, you’re right the economic situation drives them to the west, but how about the Christians in Irak, Sudan, Egypt, and many countries.

I’ll tell you a story that happened to my cousin who used to work in Saudi Arabia: One day he was walking on the street in Riyadh, he encountered the religious police they stopped him (he is white and looks non-Saudi) and saw that he was wearing a pendant, so one of the religious police pulled the pendant out and saw he was wearing a cross, so he pulled the cross out of his neck threw it on the ground and kept walking. This story would never happen in the west, and if it happens the purpotrator would be tried in justice.

Prophet, I know in Iran there are Christians, but frankly if they could leave to live in any western country they would.

Finally, I am going next week to Lebanon for vacation, I can’t wait. I booked today my rental car at the airport. I am planning to visit many new places: The cedars reserves in the Chouf and the north, jabal el-cheikh and the surroundings, the sandy beach in Tyr and visit Broumana and sit in one of the cafes listen to the crickets and wonder to the fields of Pin trees and watch the villages on the mountains, I want to visit Jezzine and Nabatieh(1st time ever), the Tripoli old market and the Khan el-franj of Sidon, and eat knefeh from Sea Sweet every morning, etc….and go to Syria, it is the season of fresh pistachio, pomegrenate, and dates….I can’t wait….Akhhhh

Hi Moustapha,

For the Lebanese, you’re right the economic situation drives them to the west, but how about the Christians in Irak, Sudan, Egypt, and many countries.

I’ll tell you a story that happened to my cousin who used to work in Saudi Arabia: One day he was walking on the street in Riyadh, he encountered the religious police they stopped him (he is white and looks non-Saudi) and saw that he was wearing a pendant, so one of the religious police pulled the pendant out and saw he was wearing a cross, so he pulled the cross out of his neck threw it on the ground and kept walking. This story would never happen in the west, and if it happens the purpotrator would be tried in justice.

Prophet, I know in Iran there are Christians, but frankly if they could leave to live in any western country they would.

Finally, I am going next week to Lebanon for vacation, I can’t wait. I booked today my rental car at the airport. I am planning to visit many new places: The cedars reserves in the Chouf and the north, jabal el-cheikh and the surroundings, the sandy beach in Tyr and visit Broumana and sit in one of the cafes listen to the crickets and wonder to the fields of Pin trees and watch the villages on the mountains, I want to visit Jezzine and Nabatieh(1st time ever), the Tripoli old market and the Khan el-franj of Sidon, and eat knefeh from Sea Sweet every morning, etc….and go to Syria, it is the season of fresh pistachio, pomegrenate, and dates….I can’t wait….Akhhhh

Great, so abhorring that you want the heat of hell to yourself.

Great, so abhorring that you want the heat of hell to yourself.

CONSTANTIN,
I agreed with you on the lack of tolerance in some Muslim countries. But as far as the Christians in Iran, you have no evidence to you claim that they can not leave Iran if they wished to. I have seen no evidence to any claim that Christians in Iran can not practice their faith freely. Unless you show me any evidence, I’ll insist on my side of the story.

CONSTANTIN,
I agreed with you on the lack of tolerance in some Muslim countries. But as far as the Christians in Iran, you have no evidence to you claim that they can not leave Iran if they wished to. I have seen no evidence to any claim that Christians in Iran can not practice their faith freely. Unless you show me any evidence, I’ll insist on my side of the story.

Prophet,

I did not mean that they are forbidden or prohibited to leave Iran, no they are not, what I meant is that economically, socially or for family reasons or any other reason they cannot leave. Like in Lebanon, 80% of the Lebanese want to leave the country and live somewhere else, they envy us Lebanese living in the west, but they cannot leave for any of the above reasons, which by the way apply to the Shiaa Iranians themselves also, most of the them would leave if they could, but they cannot. Not because the government is not alowing them!

Prophet,

I did not mean that they are forbidden or prohibited to leave Iran, no they are not, what I meant is that economically, socially or for family reasons or any other reason they cannot leave. Like in Lebanon, 80% of the Lebanese want to leave the country and live somewhere else, they envy us Lebanese living in the west, but they cannot leave for any of the above reasons, which by the way apply to the Shiaa Iranians themselves also, most of the them would leave if they could, but they cannot. Not because the government is not alowing them!

CONSTANTINE,
Thank you for the clarification. It seemed that you meant otherwise.
An economic difficulty seems to be a common problem for most people in the Middle East. Poverty does not discriminate

CONSTANTINE,
Thank you for the clarification. It seemed that you meant otherwise.
An economic difficulty seems to be a common problem for most people in the Middle East. Poverty does not discriminate

This particular church is trying to get some much needed attention. Ignorance and fear of Muslims will only complicate the strange world we live in and create hatred between Muslims and Christians.

This particular church is trying to get some much needed attention. Ignorance and fear of Muslims will only complicate the strange world we live in and create hatred between Muslims and Christians.

Ignorance of muslims? HELLO?! Its not the muslims burning the bible, its a bunch of nutjob weirdos that dont even deserve to be called christian. Yet we are ignorant cuz we are offended?! Get real!!!!

Ignorance of muslims? HELLO?! Its not the muslims burning the bible, its a bunch of nutjob weirdos that dont even deserve to be called christian. Yet we are ignorant cuz we are offended?! Get real!!!!

With all respect they are entitled to burn the Koran if they want too, in USA you can burn the flag of the country which is more of a big deal as USA has no religion,I am not a religious man but the moslem they shoul stop threatening ,they are free to burn it as many website and U tube is full of moslem swearing on anything ChrsitiansAl Kaida is not made of Hindu or Budhist , it is made from Moslem that were funded b Saudi Sheikhs that to this hour name the Christian as kouffar, al Kaida killed 3000 innocent in building, and some christians in the uSA view the moslem as an evil religion as the moslem al kaida train on shooting the cross in their camps. Al Zerkawi beheaded a man live on TV , he was moslem fanatic and no moslem leader denounced him and said that he did evil, same there was no denouncing of Sept 11 fro shikhs saying that the killers were not moslems and who ever told them that they will have 70 frsh virgins is Satan and not moslem , did you hear that?.The fact remains that since the PLO started kidnapping planes in 1969 , the PLO, AMAL,Al Kaida,Moslem tERRORIST chose this means of transportation to terrorize innocent travelers and until now, using innocent and use them as shield is a coward act and that is satanic , and the one who carried the attacks had Korans beside them because they were told by religious moslem fanatic leaders who studied the Koran very well that they will have 70 or whatever virgins after , did any religious moslem leader came up and said that there is no 70 virgins for the one who kill himself and that is work of evil? name one , at the contrary the Sheikhs in England and Saudi Arabia were praising sept 11 evil doers,also why saudi Arabia doesnt allow a church for the foreign christian worker ? but hey at?they want to build mosque in New York, I think the church should go ahead and express themselves and burn the koran or the bible whatever they like , they are christians and Jesus will judge them not the moslems. The day we hear a religious figure saying that Sept 11 and Zarkawi are not moslem and they were following Satan we will believe that the Moslem religion doesn’t endorse terrorism, but so far I am afraid to be on the plane because of the moslem terrorist and actually they call themselves fatah al Islam , AL Kaida, al Moujahidoun etc…. so America righteous and politically correct hypocrites and all other in the world express yourself truly,stop crying and just watch the fire , at least the fire of the Koran is not killing 3000 innocent burning in building falling on them, and people jumping from 200 meteres , and a moslem in Egypt and Gaza and Beirut and Algeria and Saudi Arabia cheering for the view, we saw that and it is not a dream !!!!! we saw the beheading of the innocent man in front of TV and the one doing it saying “Allah wa Akabar” true , if this is Islam it is Satanic , because no budhist or person from the mao mao will behead an innoncent on TV ,Shame on the islamic world !!!!!!!!!!!!

With all respect they are entitled to burn the Koran if they want too, in USA you can burn the flag of the country which is more of a big deal as USA has no religion,I am not a religious man but the moslem they shoul stop threatening ,they are free to burn it as many website and U tube is full of moslem swearing on anything ChrsitiansAl Kaida is not made of Hindu or Budhist , it is made from Moslem that were funded b Saudi Sheikhs that to this hour name the Christian as kouffar, al Kaida killed 3000 innocent in building, and some christians in the uSA view the moslem as an evil religion as the moslem al kaida train on shooting the cross in their camps. Al Zerkawi beheaded a man live on TV , he was moslem fanatic and no moslem leader denounced him and said that he did evil, same there was no denouncing of Sept 11 fro shikhs saying that the killers were not moslems and who ever told them that they will have 70 frsh virgins is Satan and not moslem , did you hear that?.The fact remains that since the PLO started kidnapping planes in 1969 , the PLO, AMAL,Al Kaida,Moslem tERRORIST chose this means of transportation to terrorize innocent travelers and until now, using innocent and use them as shield is a coward act and that is satanic , and the one who carried the attacks had Korans beside them because they were told by religious moslem fanatic leaders who studied the Koran very well that they will have 70 or whatever virgins after , did any religious moslem leader came up and said that there is no 70 virgins for the one who kill himself and that is work of evil? name one , at the contrary the Sheikhs in England and Saudi Arabia were praising sept 11 evil doers,also why saudi Arabia doesnt allow a church for the foreign christian worker ? but hey at?they want to build mosque in New York, I think the church should go ahead and express themselves and burn the koran or the bible whatever they like , they are christians and Jesus will judge them not the moslems. The day we hear a religious figure saying that Sept 11 and Zarkawi are not moslem and they were following Satan we will believe that the Moslem religion doesn’t endorse terrorism, but so far I am afraid to be on the plane because of the moslem terrorist and actually they call themselves fatah al Islam , AL Kaida, al Moujahidoun etc…. so America righteous and politically correct hypocrites and all other in the world express yourself truly,stop crying and just watch the fire , at least the fire of the Koran is not killing 3000 innocent burning in building falling on them, and people jumping from 200 meteres , and a moslem in Egypt and Gaza and Beirut and Algeria and Saudi Arabia cheering for the view, we saw that and it is not a dream !!!!! we saw the beheading of the innocent man in front of TV and the one doing it saying “Allah wa Akabar” true , if this is Islam it is Satanic , because no budhist or person from the mao mao will behead an innoncent on TV ,Shame on the islamic world !!!!!!!!!!!!

Funny response to prophet Mr. Ali )))

I was reading all the comments and I could not help but to see hatred feelings toward your posts, although those same people admit they are promoting peace and freedom of speech. Some called you names, and yet, they talk about respect for others.
This is how Arabs communicate among each others I guess.

Funny response to prophet Mr. Ali )))

I was reading all the comments and I could not help but to see hatred feelings toward your posts, although those same people admit they are promoting peace and freedom of speech. Some called you names, and yet, they talk about respect for others.
This is how Arabs communicate among each others I guess.

do not throw words ,I am not fanatical, people should not consider the feeling of the moslems, not all people think that the moslem religion is peaceful and they are entitle to it, it is up to the moslem to show the world that their religion is about peace as they claim evrytime a terrorist act happens, but the facts remains that the ladies and men were dancing in the street ofe gypt fom happiness and in Gaza and Beirut when Sep 11 happened ,you can’t deny that, it is not up to me to study the Islam it is up to the islam to show that they dont endorse terrorism. If some people have or made thei opinion that it is a Violent religion , let them prove the opposite, Zerakwai was saying Alla wa Akkbar on TV, did any Chikh said that he will rotten in hell, no? because sheiks are afraid and it suit them to promote hate against Christians, look at the Christians Iraqis raped ,killed,Priests are being requested to give 10000 weekly or church will be burned , the truth must be revealed , and I think it is an Hypocrisy to ask to build a mosque in NY when Sep 11 guys were brain washed in Mosques in Germany and England and Saudi Arabia and Egypt, can a moslem go public and say bin Laden is a “Kafer” .
Dont tell me am fanatic just answer the sentences I wrote and dont play game with me and run to the front , i wasn’t born today, you are a hypocrite if you dont allow people to express what they think!!!!it is America and not Saudi Arabia ,peopel burn flags ,bible , koran , god will judge not a Sheikh or Imam or pope.

do not throw words ,I am not fanatical, people should not consider the feeling of the moslems, not all people think that the moslem religion is peaceful and they are entitle to it, it is up to the moslem to show the world that their religion is about peace as they claim evrytime a terrorist act happens, but the facts remains that the ladies and men were dancing in the street ofe gypt fom happiness and in Gaza and Beirut when Sep 11 happened ,you can’t deny that, it is not up to me to study the Islam it is up to the islam to show that they dont endorse terrorism. If some people have or made thei opinion that it is a Violent religion , let them prove the opposite, Zerakwai was saying Alla wa Akkbar on TV, did any Chikh said that he will rotten in hell, no? because sheiks are afraid and it suit them to promote hate against Christians, look at the Christians Iraqis raped ,killed,Priests are being requested to give 10000 weekly or church will be burned , the truth must be revealed , and I think it is an Hypocrisy to ask to build a mosque in NY when Sep 11 guys were brain washed in Mosques in Germany and England and Saudi Arabia and Egypt, can a moslem go public and say bin Laden is a “Kafer” .
Dont tell me am fanatic just answer the sentences I wrote and dont play game with me and run to the front , i wasn’t born today, you are a hypocrite if you dont allow people to express what they think!!!!it is America and not Saudi Arabia ,peopel burn flags ,bible , koran , god will judge not a Sheikh or Imam or pope.

I mean at this point you might as well have started your comment with “with all due disrespect”. You are generalizing, and there are a million instances that million scholars and sheikhs denounced terrorism and 9-11, and a million theories on how 911 happened an why al qaeda exists with the help of the usa. . With all due DISRESPECT to you, your whole comment is garbage. And i won’t even dissect it and defend everything you said, because u are just filled with venom and hate.

I mean at this point you might as well have started your comment with “with all due disrespect”. You are generalizing, and there are a million instances that million scholars and sheikhs denounced terrorism and 9-11, and a million theories on how 911 happened an why al qaeda exists with the help of the usa. . With all due DISRESPECT to you, your whole comment is garbage. And i won’t even dissect it and defend everything you said, because u are just filled with venom and hate.

most of the Christians in Midlle east left and you still talking tolerance and stupidity,why they left , from the tolerance of the moslem religion? 15,000,000 copt in Egypt they dont have a minister in the goverment, you think the Christian Lebanses will remain forever ? go educate yourself, and talk the truth as the Chrsit taught you , and stop playing and pleasingn am not hater of moslem but that the truth !!! read about the byzantine pope in Turkey ,he’s is surrounded by siege to protect him from moslem attack,there is 5000 left Orthodox left right in Istanbul, ,it is used to be the University to educate all priests in region from the Byzantine rite, currently Turkey will not allow the doors to open or access to the books , and many attempt of killing was committed on the ope here

most of the Christians in Midlle east left and you still talking tolerance and stupidity,why they left , from the tolerance of the moslem religion? 15,000,000 copt in Egypt they dont have a minister in the goverment, you think the Christian Lebanses will remain forever ? go educate yourself, and talk the truth as the Chrsit taught you , and stop playing and pleasingn am not hater of moslem but that the truth !!! read about the byzantine pope in Turkey ,he’s is surrounded by siege to protect him from moslem attack,there is 5000 left Orthodox left right in Istanbul, ,it is used to be the University to educate all priests in region from the Byzantine rite, currently Turkey will not allow the doors to open or access to the books , and many attempt of killing was committed on the ope here

Yes true true true true true true true true, your language is truthfully.

Concretely speaking, that’s muslims dying.

guss you are wrong and that churc making a big mistake although i am christian but also we have to be fair america is all about justice and freedom for all and we are a nation of laws that means we only punish the guilty and whoever attacked us on 911 is a phanatic group called alqueda it was not the entire islamic world so we need to find those group and bring them to justice where ever they are and just to your knowledge alqueda also attack and kill other muslims because they are moderate and that church really want to help they should hold teaching cession to educate all american about the real threat and danger of alqueda
to the american people and that will serve america better than burning the quran

Yes true true true true true true true true, your language is truthfully.

Concretely speaking, that’s muslims dying.

guss you are wrong and that churc making a big mistake although i am christian but also we have to be fair america is all about justice and freedom for all and we are a nation of laws that means we only punish the guilty and whoever attacked us on 911 is a phanatic group called alqueda it was not the entire islamic world so we need to find those group and bring them to justice where ever they are and just to your knowledge alqueda also attack and kill other muslims because they are moderate and that church really want to help they should hold teaching cession to educate all american about the real threat and danger of alqueda
to the american people and that will serve america better than burning the quran

who are you to tell me I am not Christians, you are doing like the moslems and making me a Kafer , did you read the bible ” Do not judge” , you are a sinner and LIAR as any human being, I am not here to please you or to please the christians and I am not a peace maker , before peace be worked on the truth must be told , regardless of the feeling. Not every time a cartonn is depicting Mohaamad (Sallam) the world has to shake, many movies made the Christ a mocquery and the latest the Iranian series, did the Chrsitian world go banana and start killing and burning, just answer using your brain, I don’t need you to tell me I am Christian or not , especially that I don’t know who the hell you ARE

who are you to tell me I am not Christians, you are doing like the moslems and making me a Kafer , did you read the bible ” Do not judge” , you are a sinner and LIAR as any human being, I am not here to please you or to please the \christians and I am not a peace maker , before peace be worked on the truth must be told , regardless of the feeling. Not every time a cartonn is depicting Mohaamad (Sallam) the world has to shake, many movies made the Christ a mocquery and the latest the Iranian series, did the Chrsitian world go banana and start killing and burning, just answer using your brain, I don’t need you to tell me I am Christian or not , especially that I don’t know who the hell you ARE

Let them burn what they’re gonna burn, and don’t give a f(censored)k about

Let them burn what they’re gonna burn, and don’t give a f(censored)k about

Let them burn what they’re gonna burn, and don’t give a f(censored)k about

I won’t answer that but I will let the ratings show how wrong you are.

I won’t answer that but I will let the ratings show how wrong you are.

I won’t answer that but I will let the ratings show how wrong you are.

I was wondering what courage you have to generalize 9/11 attack is muslims against Christians.
You cannot mess with a symbol of a religion. The American has many American terrorist cell which killed American so do we go and ask the American to burn the bible. Why they don’t burn al Qaeda flag? Why don’t you burn bin laden picture? There aee enough muslims around the world and especially in the US which they aee against terrorism so what abku those we try to make them really believe in al qaeda that we as christians are barbarian. Cime on man what are you made of? wheres the logic? You should feel awful and ashamed by posting and the funny part you were trying to justify their act. I am sure you aee one of the 200 people where you burn people. Pls change your nationality and never mention you are Lebanese. Despite how much i hate HA but is still much better than you. You should read your post when you arrive to beirut airport and burn the Quran. But I know you talk big but at the end you aee just worst and cheap as chicken . You change your name to Guess not Guss as u r still guessing why u exist. U r not human

I was wondering what courage you have to generalize 9/11 attack is muslims against Christians.
You cannot mess with a symbol of a religion. The American has many American terrorist cell which killed American so do we go and ask the American to burn the bible. Why they don’t burn al Qaeda flag? Why don’t you burn bin laden picture? There aee enough muslims around the world and especially in the US which they aee against terrorism so what abku those we try to make them really believe in al qaeda that we as christians are barbarian. Cime on man what are you made of? wheres the logic? You should feel awful and ashamed by posting and the funny part you were trying to justify their act. I am sure you aee one of the 200 people where you burn people. Pls change your nationality and never mention you are Lebanese. Despite how much i hate HA but is still much better than you. You should read your post when you arrive to beirut airport and burn the Quran. But I know you talk big but at the end you aee just worst and cheap as chicken . You change your name to Guess not Guss as u r still guessing why u exist. U r not human

I was wondering what courage you have to generalize 9/11 attack is muslims against Christians.
You cannot mess with a symbol of a religion. The American has many American terrorist cell which killed American so do we go and ask the American to burn the bible. Why they don’t burn al Qaeda flag? Why don’t you burn bin laden picture? There aee enough muslims around the world and especially in the US which they aee against terrorism so what abku those we try to make them really believe in al qaeda that we as christians are barbarian. Cime on man what are you made of? wheres the logic? You should feel awful and ashamed by posting and the funny part you were trying to justify their act. I am sure you aee one of the 200 people where you burn people. Pls change your nationality and never mention you are Lebanese. Despite how much i hate HA but is still much better than you. You should read your post when you arrive to beirut airport and burn the Quran. But I know you talk big but at the end you aee just worst and cheap as chicken . You change your name to Guess not Guss as u r still guessing why u exist. U r not human

Guys just FYI
I had worn Lebanese Forces red stripe Cross tshirt while I was in Karachi Pakistan, no problem at all.
I always have my neck silver cross chain during my trips to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, indonesia and egypt. Never faced with any problem. I will never remove it.

Guys just FYI
I had worn Lebanese Forces red stripe Cross tshirt while I was in Karachi Pakistan, no problem at all.
I always have my neck silver cross chain during my trips to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, indonesia and egypt. Never faced with any problem. I will never remove it.

Guys just FYI
I had worn Lebanese Forces red stripe Cross tshirt while I was in Karachi Pakistan, no problem at all.
I always have my neck silver cross chain during my trips to Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Bangladesh, indonesia and egypt. Never faced with any problem. I will never remove it.

Well said Guss

Well said Guss

Well said Guss

not to mention AYA Sofia which it was a Cathedral, now it’s a mosque.

not to mention AYA Sofia which it was a Cathedral, now it’s a mosque.

not to mention AYA Sofia which it was a Cathedral, now it’s a mosque.

I don’t care about your rating, I am not here to be praised,I am here for a message of Tolerance,and the moslem religion somehow think they are doing the Christians favor when they tolerate something. You didnt answer why 15,000,000 copt don’t have a minister, why in Turkey the Byzantine Pope can’t run the Priesthood school. In Qatar the state allowed one church there and I have relatives there , when they go to church on Sunday there is bystanders who swore at them and call them keffar , and Qatar state had complaint and didn’t do nothing , that’s fact ,fact, get your fact and don’t say many moslem opposed Sep 11 , send me an article from a mosleem religious leader condemning the attack instead of saying many opposed it, fact just dont bla bla about tolerance life is both ways,.not one way ticket

I don’t care about your rating, I am not here to be praised,I am here for a message of Tolerance,and the moslem religion somehow think they are doing the Christians favor when they tolerate something. You didnt answer why 15,000,000 copt don’t have a minister, why in Turkey the Byzantine Pope can’t run the Priesthood school. In Qatar the state allowed one church there and I have relatives there , when they go to church on Sunday there is bystanders who swore at them and call them keffar , and Qatar state had complaint and didn’t do nothing , that’s fact ,fact, get your fact and don’t say many moslem opposed Sep 11 , send me an article from a mosleem religious leader condemning the attack instead of saying many opposed it, fact just dont bla bla about tolerance life is both ways,.not one way ticket

Prophet, I said exactly what you did up there and I got thumbed down! lol

Prophet, I said exactly what you did up there and I got thumbed down! lol

Prophet, I said exactly what you did up there and I got thumbed down! lol

Same goes for u guss, Did YOU not read the bible? YOU are judging muslims. Wow. Ur just out of ur freakin mind

Same goes for u guss, Did YOU not read the bible? YOU are judging muslims. Wow. Ur just out of ur freakin mind

Same goes for u guss, Did YOU not read the bible? YOU are judging muslims. Wow. Ur just out of ur freakin mind

CONSTANTIN! WOW! wish i could be there with you LOL!! Allah yobstak! Maybe you’ll meet up with Tony A lol i think he is there. If your going to saida to see khan il phrang while your at it there is a temple called ma3bad Ashmoun. Trust me, you won’t regret it. I promise you.

With regards to what that religious officer did. It disgusts me and trust me us Muslims have a hard time with them just as much as a any other person from different confession does. Infact I am from the people who believes this whole religious officer deal is bullshit and should be abolished.

But its like Muslims living in France, they are so racist they look at us as second class people, and treat us as their servants. You can find these acts in all countries bro, any where you go you will find a good and bad out of it.

Also i have many many friends who are Egyptian kobtics, they are living large and wealthy in Egypt. With regards to the Christians in Iraq.. lets be fair.. its not like the muslims are living la vida loca.. every day people are dying like chickens, they live with no stability. Both confessions are victims of militias and agendas being played out on the people of Iraq from regional and supreme powers. Shiaa, Sunni, Christians are all being victimized by unknown groups who are payed to kill. Allah y khalison min hal fitan ou iy3eenon. Allah lay dawi2a la 7adan.

Yalla khayeh Constantin. I pray you have a safe trip and a safe return, look forward to hearing from you.

Allah ma3ak.

Peace

CONSTANTIN! WOW! wish i could be there with you LOL!! Allah yobstak! Maybe you’ll meet up with Tony A lol i think he is there. If your going to saida to see khan il phrang while your at it there is a temple called ma3bad Ashmoun. Trust me, you won’t regret it. I promise you.

With regards to what that religious officer did. It disgusts me and trust me us Muslims have a hard time with them just as much as a any other person from different confession does. Infact I am from the people who believes this whole religious officer deal is bullshit and should be abolished.

But its like Muslims living in France, they are so racist they look at us as second class people, and treat us as their servants. You can find these acts in all countries bro, any where you go you will find a good and bad out of it.

Also i have many many friends who are Egyptian kobtics, they are living large and wealthy in Egypt. With regards to the Christians in Iraq.. lets be fair.. its not like the muslims are living la vida loca.. every day people are dying like chickens, they live with no stability. Both confessions are victims of militias and agendas being played out on the people of Iraq from regional and supreme powers. Shiaa, Sunni, Christians are all being victimized by unknown groups who are payed to kill. Allah y khalison min hal fitan ou iy3eenon. Allah lay dawi2a la 7adan.

Yalla khayeh Constantin. I pray you have a safe trip and a safe return, look forward to hearing from you.

Allah ma3ak.

Peace

CONSTANTIN! WOW! wish i could be there with you LOL!! Allah yobstak! Maybe you’ll meet up with Tony A lol i think he is there. If your going to saida to see khan il phrang while your at it there is a temple called ma3bad Ashmoun. Trust me, you won’t regret it. I promise you.

With regards to what that religious officer did. It disgusts me and trust me us Muslims have a hard time with them just as much as a any other person from different confession does. Infact I am from the people who believes this whole religious officer deal is bullshit and should be abolished.

But its like Muslims living in France, they are so racist they look at us as second class people, and treat us as their servants. You can find these acts in all countries bro, any where you go you will find a good and bad out of it.

Also i have many many friends who are Egyptian kobtics, they are living large and wealthy in Egypt. With regards to the Christians in Iraq.. lets be fair.. its not like the muslims are living la vida loca.. every day people are dying like chickens, they live with no stability. Both confessions are victims of militias and agendas being played out on the people of Iraq from regional and supreme powers. Shiaa, Sunni, Christians are all being victimized by unknown groups who are payed to kill. Allah y khalison min hal fitan ou iy3eenon. Allah lay dawi2a la 7adan.

Yalla khayeh Constantin. I pray you have a safe trip and a safe return, look forward to hearing from you.

Allah ma3ak.

Peace

Allahy 2awik ya 3ageeed! hahaha.. Hamdillah for that bro, and Allah yi7meek.

How are you Jean? inshallah everything is well. Shou many twists and turns from our political perspective these few weeks.

Allahy 2awik ya 3ageeed! hahaha.. Hamdillah for that bro, and Allah yi7meek.

How are you Jean? inshallah everything is well. Shou many twists and turns from our political perspective these few weeks.

Allahy 2awik ya 3ageeed! hahaha.. Hamdillah for that bro, and Allah yi7meek.

How are you Jean? inshallah everything is well. Shou many twists and turns from our political perspective these few weeks.

PROPHET!! BRO!! we have some people here, who are in need of some serious GUIDANCE!!! Do your magic hahaha…

Fhimna ignorance is bliss… bess wallah the philly steak sandwich at bliss house is more preferable.

PROPHET!! BRO!! we have some people here, who are in need of some serious GUIDANCE!!! Do your magic hahaha…

Fhimna ignorance is bliss… bess wallah the philly steak sandwich at bliss house is more preferable.

PROPHET!! BRO!! we have some people here, who are in need of some serious GUIDANCE!!! Do your magic hahaha…

Fhimna ignorance is bliss… bess wallah the philly steak sandwich at bliss house is more preferable.

what happened to Jesus’s teachings.
-Compassion
-forgiveness
-If your enemy hits you on one cheek you turn to give him the other

A Muslim like me is not Christian obviously, but I am closer to being one more then you would ever wish to be.

Please go join your friends Alkaeda they need you and the likes of you more then ever.

what happened to Jesus’s teachings.
-Compassion
-forgiveness
-If your enemy hits you on one cheek you turn to give him the other

A Muslim like me is not Christian obviously, but I am closer to being one more then you would ever wish to be.

Please go join your friends Alkaeda they need you and the likes of you more then ever.

Yes Mustapha,
I forgot who said this quote, but I’ll use it because it applies perfectly;
“It is sometimes easier to head an institute for the study of child guidance than it is to turn one brat into a decent human being.”

A good Philly steak sounds good. I have not had one of those in while.
I just worry about all the calories that come with it. But I’ll cheat. lol

Yes Mustapha,
I forgot who said this quote, but I’ll use it because it applies perfectly;
“It is sometimes easier to head an institute for the study of child guidance than it is to turn one brat into a decent human being.”

A good Philly steak sounds good. I have not had one of those in while.
I just worry about all the calories that come with it. But I’ll cheat. lol

Yes Mustapha,
I forgot who said this quote, but I’ll use it because it applies perfectly;
“It is sometimes easier to head an institute for the study of child guidance than it is to turn one brat into a decent human being.”

A good Philly steak sounds good. I have not had one of those in while.
I just worry about all the calories that come with it. But I’ll cheat. lol

LOL! dude! i gained 10 pounds this last month.. cant wait to hit the park and gym with a combination of P90X!

Gotta love it!

LOL! dude! i gained 10 pounds this last month.. cant wait to hit the park and gym with a combination of P90X!

Gotta love it!

LOL! dude! i gained 10 pounds this last month.. cant wait to hit the park and gym with a combination of P90X!

Gotta love it!

Yeah, You gained what I lost,lol

Yeah, You gained what I lost,lol

Yeah, You gained what I lost,lol

LOL!! i couldn’t help it, with work, school and fasting.. when i come back home to my wife’s cooking! WOW! couldn’t resist and by the time i’m done there is no way i’m getting a work out with a full stomach. I go into what you call a COmatos! hahaha..

LOL!! i couldn’t help it, with work, school and fasting.. when i come back home to my wife’s cooking! WOW! couldn’t resist and by the time i’m done there is no way i’m getting a work out with a full stomach. I go into what you call a COmatos! hahaha..

LOL!! i couldn’t help it, with work, school and fasting.. when i come back home to my wife’s cooking! WOW! couldn’t resist and by the time i’m done there is no way i’m getting a work out with a full stomach. I go into what you call a COmatos! hahaha..

Where do you live Bro? You must be a kid to go to school, still.lol

Where do you live Bro? You must be a kid to go to school, still.lol

Where do you live Bro? You must be a kid to go to school, still.lol

LOL a married kid working LOL! No no no.. my bad, i meant school as in University. Getting an MBA. I generalize all educational institutions as a school. I guess its wrong =P hehehe… yivda7areeshak

LOL a married kid working LOL! No no no.. my bad, i meant school as in University. Getting an MBA. I generalize all educational institutions as a school. I guess its wrong =P hehehe… yivda7areeshak

Mish nakisna fadayeh.lol
Good luck bro.

Mish nakisna fadayeh.lol
Good luck bro.

Mish nakisna fadayeh.lol
Good luck bro.

I WOULD SAY NO TO BURNING THE QURAAN ENEN THOUGH I AM A CHRISTIAN IT IS ONLY FAIR BECAUSE WHO ATTACKED US ON 911 IS A FANATIC MUSLIM GROUP ALQUEIDA IT WAS NOT THE ENTIRE MUSLIM POPULATION OF 1.5 BILLION
THAT CHURCH MAKING A MISTAKE IF THEY REALLY WANT TO HELP THEY SHOULD EXPLAIN TO AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT THE BIGGEST DANGER OF ALL ISLAM IS ALQUEDA TERROSSIT GROUP AND ASK PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO HELP US FIND OSAMA BIN LADIN AND HIS GROUP AND BRING THEM TO JUSTICE
BURNING THE QURAAN WILL NOT SERVE AMERICA,S INTERREST BECAUSE IT WILL PUSH TOO MANY MODERATE MUSLIMS THAT THEY DO,NT WISH US NO HARM THE OPPOSIT WAY

I WOULD SAY NO TO BURNING THE QURAAN ENEN THOUGH I AM A CHRISTIAN IT IS ONLY FAIR BECAUSE WHO ATTACKED US ON 911 IS A FANATIC MUSLIM GROUP ALQUEIDA IT WAS NOT THE ENTIRE MUSLIM POPULATION OF 1.5 BILLION
THAT CHURCH MAKING A MISTAKE IF THEY REALLY WANT TO HELP THEY SHOULD EXPLAIN TO AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT THE BIGGEST DANGER OF ALL ISLAM IS ALQUEDA TERROSSIT GROUP AND ASK PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO HELP US FIND OSAMA BIN LADIN AND HIS GROUP AND BRING THEM TO JUSTICE
BURNING THE QURAAN WILL NOT SERVE AMERICA,S INTERREST BECAUSE IT WILL PUSH TOO MANY MODERATE MUSLIMS THAT THEY DO,NT WISH US NO HARM THE OPPOSIT WAY

I WOULD SAY NO TO BURNING THE QURAAN ENEN THOUGH I AM A CHRISTIAN IT IS ONLY FAIR BECAUSE WHO ATTACKED US ON 911 IS A FANATIC MUSLIM GROUP ALQUEIDA IT WAS NOT THE ENTIRE MUSLIM POPULATION OF 1.5 BILLION
THAT CHURCH MAKING A MISTAKE IF THEY REALLY WANT TO HELP THEY SHOULD EXPLAIN TO AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT THE BIGGEST DANGER OF ALL ISLAM IS ALQUEDA TERROSSIT GROUP AND ASK PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD TO HELP US FIND OSAMA BIN LADIN AND HIS GROUP AND BRING THEM TO JUSTICE
BURNING THE QURAAN WILL NOT SERVE AMERICA,S INTERREST BECAUSE IT WILL PUSH TOO MANY MODERATE MUSLIMS THAT THEY DO,NT WISH US NO HARM THE OPPOSIT WAY

politically and realistically speaking, the koran burning is very wrong. logically speaking, burning books (any book) is not necessarily smart. My personal opinion is that the koran has poisoned this planet with ignorance and I don’t give a damn if they burn it for the following reasons:
1- muslims are cool until they start reading the koran and then they change to the the worst(backwards, ignorant, etc…)
2- the absurd things muslims do are so crazy that tribes in the amazon can’t compete with (e.g. stonning, lashing, etc…)
3- Mohamad married a 9 yr old girl; what a role model…need i say more
4- right to marry 4 women as if women are some kind of object.
5- fasting for the day but then pigging out at iftar, what’s he point? side note, i hate that #%& tabal that starts playing his #%& drums at 3:00 in the morning, there are alarm clocks nowadays but i guess muslims still want to live in the first millenia.

The list can go on and on. this book is not worth the ink on its paper. the bottom line is that muslims are a reflection of their religion and this reflection is not that pretty. just look at lebanon for example and compare the muslim areas to non-muslim areas and you’ll see the difference. don’t even get me started with places like pakistan, afgha, etc… I think you get the point.

politically and realistically speaking, the koran burning is very wrong. logically speaking, burning books (any book) is not necessarily smart. My personal opinion is that the koran has poisoned this planet with ignorance and I don’t give a damn if they burn it for the following reasons:
1- muslims are cool until they start reading the koran and then they change to the the worst(backwards, ignorant, etc…)
2- the absurd things muslims do are so crazy that tribes in the amazon can’t compete with (e.g. stonning, lashing, etc…)
3- Mohamad married a 9 yr old girl; what a role model…need i say more
4- right to marry 4 women as if women are some kind of object.
5- fasting for the day but then pigging out at iftar, what’s he point? side note, i hate that #%& tabal that starts playing his #%& drums at 3:00 in the morning, there are alarm clocks nowadays but i guess muslims still want to live in the first millenia.

The list can go on and on. this book is not worth the ink on its paper. the bottom line is that muslims are a reflection of their religion and this reflection is not that pretty. just look at lebanon for example and compare the muslim areas to non-muslim areas and you’ll see the difference. don’t even get me started with places like pakistan, afgha, etc… I think you get the point.

politically and realistically speaking, the koran burning is very wrong. logically speaking, burning books (any book) is not necessarily smart. My personal opinion is that the koran has poisoned this planet with ignorance and I don’t give a damn if they burn it for the following reasons:
1- muslims are cool until they start reading the koran and then they change to the the worst(backwards, ignorant, etc…)
2- the absurd things muslims do are so crazy that tribes in the amazon can’t compete with (e.g. stonning, lashing, etc…)
3- Mohamad married a 9 yr old girl; what a role model…need i say more
4- right to marry 4 women as if women are some kind of object.
5- fasting for the day but then pigging out at iftar, what’s he point? side note, i hate that #%& tabal that starts playing his #%& drums at 3:00 in the morning, there are alarm clocks nowadays but i guess muslims still want to live in the first millenia.

The list can go on and on. this book is not worth the ink on its paper. the bottom line is that muslims are a reflection of their religion and this reflection is not that pretty. just look at lebanon for example and compare the muslim areas to non-muslim areas and you’ll see the difference. don’t even get me started with places like pakistan, afgha, etc… I think you get the point.

JOSEPH,
Well said.
I doubt that, burning the Quran by a crazy idiot would push moderate Muslims the opposite way. My concern is that extremists would use this as another stupid excuse for their terrorist activities. Imagine some crazy extremist Muslim responds by burning a bible or a church?

JOSEPH,
Well said.
I doubt that, burning the Quran by a crazy idiot would push moderate Muslims the opposite way. My concern is that extremists would use this as another stupid excuse for their terrorist activities. Imagine some crazy extremist Muslim responds by burning a bible or a church?

JOSEPH,
Well said.
I doubt that, burning the Quran by a crazy idiot would push moderate Muslims the opposite way. My concern is that extremists would use this as another stupid excuse for their terrorist activities. Imagine some crazy extremist Muslim responds by burning a bible or a church?

1- muslims are cool until they start reading the koran and then they change to the the worst(backwards, ignorant, etc…)

BULL $HIT MY PARENTS BOTH READ THE QURAN MY MOTHER IS NOT EVEN COVERED AND THEY ARE THE NICEST PEOPLE EVER, AGAIN ANOTHER PERSON FILLED WITH HATE. I RESPECT YOUR RELIGION, AND I DONT MOCK YOUR RELIGION, NOR WILL I, BECAUSE I HAVE LOTS OF CHRISTIAN/CATHOLIC FRIENDS, BUT DONT THROW STONES IF YOU LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE. NO ONE IS PERFECT, AND THERE ARE NUTJOBS FROM EVERY RELIGION, SO TAKE YOUR COMMENTS AND SHOVE EM WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE. NEXT TIME I HOPE THE TABAL SMASHES HIS DRUMS ON YOUR HEAD AT 3 AM.

1- muslims are cool until they start reading the koran and then they change to the the worst(backwards, ignorant, etc…)

BULL $HIT MY PARENTS BOTH READ THE QURAN MY MOTHER IS NOT EVEN COVERED AND THEY ARE THE NICEST PEOPLE EVER, AGAIN ANOTHER PERSON FILLED WITH HATE. I RESPECT YOUR RELIGION, AND I DONT MOCK YOUR RELIGION, NOR WILL I, BECAUSE I HAVE LOTS OF CHRISTIAN/CATHOLIC FRIENDS, BUT DONT THROW STONES IF YOU LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE. NO ONE IS PERFECT, AND THERE ARE NUTJOBS FROM EVERY RELIGION, SO TAKE YOUR COMMENTS AND SHOVE EM WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE. NEXT TIME I HOPE THE TABAL SMASHES HIS DRUMS ON YOUR HEAD AT 3 AM.

1- muslims are cool until they start reading the koran and then they change to the the worst(backwards, ignorant, etc…)

BULL $HIT MY PARENTS BOTH READ THE QURAN MY MOTHER IS NOT EVEN COVERED AND THEY ARE THE NICEST PEOPLE EVER, AGAIN ANOTHER PERSON FILLED WITH HATE. I RESPECT YOUR RELIGION, AND I DONT MOCK YOUR RELIGION, NOR WILL I, BECAUSE I HAVE LOTS OF CHRISTIAN/CATHOLIC FRIENDS, BUT DONT THROW STONES IF YOU LIVE IN A GLASS HOUSE. NO ONE IS PERFECT, AND THERE ARE NUTJOBS FROM EVERY RELIGION, SO TAKE YOUR COMMENTS AND SHOVE EM WHERE THE SUN DONT SHINE. NEXT TIME I HOPE THE TABAL SMASHES HIS DRUMS ON YOUR HEAD AT 3 AM.

hahaha your an idiot!

hahaha your an idiot!

hahaha your an idiot!

lol LEB.

lol LEB.

lol LEB.

I GUESS THE TRUTH HURTS, LOL.

I GUESS THE TRUTH HURTS, LOL.

I GUESS THE TRUTH HURTS, LOL.

karim,
If anything, you are a disgrace to your own name.
The Name Karim means generous. Unfortunately, the only generosity you, and your name offer is a generosity in insults and hatred. If your name is really Karim, your parents regret their generosity of giving you such a name.
I would not want to respond to all the insults you said, nor would I want to respond to your racism.

All I’ll suggest to you is this: We do not need people like you in Lebanon. You don’t offer anything positive or peaceful. You are full of hate. I’m sure you hate yourself too. If you don’t like what you see, Stay as far away from Lebanon as you can. Lebanon is better off without people like you.
Eat your heart out.

karim,
If anything, you are a disgrace to your own name.
The Name Karim means generous. Unfortunately, the only generosity you, and your name offer is a generosity in insults and hatred. If your name is really Karim, your parents regret their generosity of giving you such a name.
I would not want to respond to all the insults you said, nor would I want to respond to your racism.

All I’ll suggest to you is this: We do not need people like you in Lebanon. You don’t offer anything positive or peaceful. You are full of hate. I’m sure you hate yourself too. If you don’t like what you see, Stay as far away from Lebanon as you can. Lebanon is better off without people like you.
Eat your heart out.

karim,
If anything, you are a disgrace to your own name.
The Name Karim means generous. Unfortunately, the only generosity you, and your name offer is a generosity in insults and hatred. If your name is really Karim, your parents regret their generosity of giving you such a name.
I would not want to respond to all the insults you said, nor would I want to respond to your racism.

All I’ll suggest to you is this: We do not need people like you in Lebanon. You don’t offer anything positive or peaceful. You are full of hate. I’m sure you hate yourself too. If you don’t like what you see, Stay as far away from Lebanon as you can. Lebanon is better off without people like you.
Eat your heart out.

Karim,

It says a lot about how educated you are to make such statements about the Koran and Islam. And your heart is obviously tainted since you feed off of depicting Islam as an evil/backward religion. And make statements that are completely out of context to depict which ever way suits your agenda.

I can rebuttal every single thing you have stated which I have many times to others on this site. but the truth of the matter is your approach shows ignorance and is venomous, so id rather not waste my breath on you and keep you ignorant since you will to be that way.

The saddest part is you are a Lebanese brother disrespecting my confession just because you think you are better and you let your ego get to you. You think because there are people who think different from you then they deserve to be disrespected because they don’t share your confession or beliefs. You see one event and you generalize and you blindly label the rest of the people. Is that what your standards of civility are? Does putting random false stereotypes that are taken out of context help you sleep better at night?

Very disappointing Karim. You do a great job in preserving sectarianism and ta3asob.

Anyone who thinks or believes their faith or beliefs will look better off of disrespecting and accusing others beliefs falsely are doing to themselves and their confession damage and a discredit.

Peace

Karim,

It says a lot about how educated you are to make such statements about the Koran and Islam. And your heart is obviously tainted since you feed off of depicting Islam as an evil/backward religion. And make statements that are completely out of context to depict which ever way suits your agenda.

I can rebuttal every single thing you have stated which I have many times to others on this site. but the truth of the matter is your approach shows ignorance and is venomous, so id rather not waste my breath on you and keep you ignorant since you will to be that way.

The saddest part is you are a Lebanese brother disrespecting my confession just because you think you are better and you let your ego get to you. You think because there are people who think different from you then they deserve to be disrespected because they don’t share your confession or beliefs. You see one event and you generalize and you blindly label the rest of the people. Is that what your standards of civility are? Does putting random false stereotypes that are taken out of context help you sleep better at night?

Very disappointing Karim. You do a great job in preserving sectarianism and ta3asob.

Anyone who thinks or believes their faith or beliefs will look better off of disrespecting and accusing others beliefs falsely are doing to themselves and their confession damage and a discredit.

Peace

Karim,

It says a lot about how educated you are to make such statements about the Koran and Islam. And your heart is obviously tainted since you feed off of depicting Islam as an evil/backward religion. And make statements that are completely out of context to depict which ever way suits your agenda.

I can rebuttal every single thing you have stated which I have many times to others on this site. but the truth of the matter is your approach shows ignorance and is venomous, so id rather not waste my breath on you and keep you ignorant since you will to be that way.

The saddest part is you are a Lebanese brother disrespecting my confession just because you think you are better and you let your ego get to you. You think because there are people who think different from you then they deserve to be disrespected because they don’t share your confession or beliefs. You see one event and you generalize and you blindly label the rest of the people. Is that what your standards of civility are? Does putting random false stereotypes that are taken out of context help you sleep better at night?

Very disappointing Karim. You do a great job in preserving sectarianism and ta3asob.

Anyone who thinks or believes their faith or beliefs will look better off of disrespecting and accusing others beliefs falsely are doing to themselves and their confession damage and a discredit.

Peace

rasul,

Child molester represens the name rasul very well.
you can’t respond to my FACTS not because you wouldn’t want to but because you’re embarassed about these FACTS. cheers mate!
note to all, i am not going to reply to everyone here, I made my point and that iz zat, LOL.

rasul,

Child molester represens the name rasul very well.
you can’t respond to my FACTS not because you wouldn’t want to but because you’re embarassed about these FACTS. cheers mate!
note to all, i am not going to reply to everyone here, I made my point and that iz zat, LOL.

rasul,

Child molester represens the name rasul very well.
you can’t respond to my FACTS not because you wouldn’t want to but because you’re embarassed about these FACTS. cheers mate!
note to all, i am not going to reply to everyone here, I made my point and that iz zat, LOL.

I WOULD SAY NO AGAIN AND AGAIN TO BURNING THE QURAAN IS A BIG MISTAKE BESIDE THIS PASTOR DOES,NT REPRESENT 300 MILLIONS AMERICANS HE ONLY HAVE 50 MEMBERS IN HIS CHURCH HIS STUPID ACT WILL NOT HELP AMERICA AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BESIDES OUR CONSTITUTION SAYS FREEDOM OF SPEECH FREEDOM OF RELIGION IT DOES,T SAY FREEDOM OF DESTOYING OTHER PEOPLE BOOKS OR PROPERTY HE SHOULD FACE A LEGAL ACTION IF DOES THAT HE WILL BE BRAKING THE LAW AND SHOULD BE TRIED FOR THAT

I WOULD SAY NO AGAIN AND AGAIN TO BURNING THE QURAAN IS A BIG MISTAKE BESIDE THIS PASTOR DOES,NT REPRESENT 300 MILLIONS AMERICANS HE ONLY HAVE 50 MEMBERS IN HIS CHURCH HIS STUPID ACT WILL NOT HELP AMERICA AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BESIDES OUR CONSTITUTION SAYS FREEDOM OF SPEECH FREEDOM OF RELIGION IT DOES,T SAY FREEDOM OF DESTOYING OTHER PEOPLE BOOKS OR PROPERTY HE SHOULD FACE A LEGAL ACTION IF DOES THAT HE WILL BE BRAKING THE LAW AND SHOULD BE TRIED FOR THAT

I WOULD SAY NO AGAIN AND AGAIN TO BURNING THE QURAAN IS A BIG MISTAKE BESIDE THIS PASTOR DOES,NT REPRESENT 300 MILLIONS AMERICANS HE ONLY HAVE 50 MEMBERS IN HIS CHURCH HIS STUPID ACT WILL NOT HELP AMERICA AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BESIDES OUR CONSTITUTION SAYS FREEDOM OF SPEECH FREEDOM OF RELIGION IT DOES,T SAY FREEDOM OF DESTOYING OTHER PEOPLE BOOKS OR PROPERTY HE SHOULD FACE A LEGAL ACTION IF DOES THAT HE WILL BE BRAKING THE LAW AND SHOULD BE TRIED FOR THAT

I AGRRE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT

I AGRRE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT

I AGRRE WITH YOU 100 PERCENT

I AGREE WITH WALID KHOURI 100 PERCENT

I AGREE WITH WALID KHOURI 100 PERCENT

I AGREE WITH WALID KHOURI 100 PERCENT

WELL SAID WALID KHOURI

WELL SAID WALID KHOURI

WELL SAID WALID KHOURI

it looks this site is full of peopel interested to hide the truth,no one dared to answer that 15000000 Copt in Egypt don’t have a minister to represent them, the truth that Saudi Arabia doesn’t allow any church to be build , the truth is most of the moslem population were cheering on the streets when Sep 11 happened, the truth is all the suicide bombers except 1 were Saudi pure moslems mosque goers

it looks this site is full of peopel interested to hide the truth,no one dared to answer that 15000000 Copt in Egypt don’t have a minister to represent them, the truth that Saudi Arabia doesn’t allow any church to be build , the truth is most of the moslem population were cheering on the streets when Sep 11 happened, the truth is all the suicide bombers except 1 were Saudi pure moslems mosque goers

it looks this site is full of peopel interested to hide the truth,no one dared to answer that 15000000 Copt in Egypt don’t have a minister to represent them, the truth that Saudi Arabia doesn’t allow any church to be build , the truth is most of the moslem population were cheering on the streets when Sep 11 happened, the truth is all the suicide bombers except 1 were Saudi pure moslems mosque goers

Was Timothy McVeigh a Moslem mosque goer?
In every nation, race and religion Guss you will find the good the bad and the ugly…
Nobody is denying the fact that Saudi Arabia follows strict rule of Islam and does not allow Churches to be built. However, their population is pretty much 100% moslems and if they won’t build a church it is their loss. On the other hand, in Lebanon we are fighting for religious tolerance and acceptance and we are succeeding. The forces of evil are everywhere. There are hindu extremists who planned and assassinated Ghandi and so on…
That being said, how responsible is it to antagonize the extremists really and the U.S. troops are stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Do you know how many nut cases are just waiting for that opportunity to blow themselves up killing innocent people and soldiers who are there just to collect a paycheck?
The polls today showed that pretty much all Americans are against burning the Koran. That puts you in the minority, the same minority committing atrocities in the name of Allah. Jesus won his followers through a peace message. Think about that.

Was Timothy McVeigh a Moslem mosque goer?
In every nation, race and religion Guss you will find the good the bad and the ugly…
Nobody is denying the fact that Saudi Arabia follows strict rule of Islam and does not allow Churches to be built. However, their population is pretty much 100% moslems and if they won’t build a church it is their loss. On the other hand, in Lebanon we are fighting for religious tolerance and acceptance and we are succeeding. The forces of evil are everywhere. There are hindu extremists who planned and assassinated Ghandi and so on…
That being said, how responsible is it to antagonize the extremists really and the U.S. troops are stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Do you know how many nut cases are just waiting for that opportunity to blow themselves up killing innocent people and soldiers who are there just to collect a paycheck?
The polls today showed that pretty much all Americans are against burning the Koran. That puts you in the minority, the same minority committing atrocities in the name of Allah. Jesus won his followers through a peace message. Think about that.

Was Timothy McVeigh a Moslem mosque goer?
In every nation, race and religion Guss you will find the good the bad and the ugly…
Nobody is denying the fact that Saudi Arabia follows strict rule of Islam and does not allow Churches to be built. However, their population is pretty much 100% moslems and if they won’t build a church it is their loss. On the other hand, in Lebanon we are fighting for religious tolerance and acceptance and we are succeeding. The forces of evil are everywhere. There are hindu extremists who planned and assassinated Ghandi and so on…
That being said, how responsible is it to antagonize the extremists really and the U.S. troops are stationed in Iraq and Afghanistan? Do you know how many nut cases are just waiting for that opportunity to blow themselves up killing innocent people and soldiers who are there just to collect a paycheck?
The polls today showed that pretty much all Americans are against burning the Koran. That puts you in the minority, the same minority committing atrocities in the name of Allah. Jesus won his followers through a peace message. Think about that.

L

Well how about i say:

The Egyptian people don’t even choose their freakin government which is FAR FAR from islamic. It is a man who is westernized and has no fear of God and is sucking up every bit of money he can. So islam is not to blame.

Saudi Arabia is an extreme country in which Islam is not applied since the people also don’t get to choose their leaders, and are oppressed just as much as any other person is. The ruling family act in ways that are completely against Islam and can not be considered islamic.

Another thing to point out about Saudi Arabia is that they choose to be a single sect country. Legally ma 7adan ilon 3a layon. Just like the US claims to be for all religions ma 7adan ilon 3a layon.

There are no Christian Saudis or Saudi’s of different confessions, yet this does a dis-justice to the Muslims since all the ignorance and negative generalizations are slapped on to all the muslims foreheads, since people like you look for anything negative to prove their own confession as better through faults of other people and purposely judge by the people and not by the content. Not to forget take every word possible out of context.

The truth that most people were cheering is a lie. Its like people see pictures of hizzy men on the streets taking over Beirut, does that mean all the Muslims support the hizzy and are taking over Beirut? All scholars that have a presence in the media and have any weight on society, education or politics came out and went against it.. and to be fair EVEN the HIZZY condemned the attacks!!

How about the fact that from those suicide bombers that were named they found them ALIVE in SAUDI? How about the fact that some douch bags who didnt even complete their certificate to fly a small personal plane are SUPPOSEDLY able to fly a 747 and accurately crash into a building! what utter bullshit! How about how they left all the evidence in car where conveniently outside of the airport! lol what a joke! I mean seriously any commoner can figure out that this whole event was completely staged. Every one is going to say conspiracy theory. What facts do you have. other then 2 planes hit the towers and some douchbag in Afghanistan sent a video claiming him and his group did it. And to top it off.. this guy was under the CIA payroll for a decade +.. give me a brake.
Where as all the evidence proves that the whole scenario was made of lies. The pentagon was hit by a plane and yet there are no wing marks to prove the collision of a plane. The towers were proven to have been demolished as apposed to give in. Witnesses are not found citing the planes of the pentagon plane crash yet dozens of firemen heard explosions and saw them take off.

So if your a mosque goer your sucuidal mania. Well how come the whole world is not in ruins of 1.5 biillion people have commited suicide by explosion. Give me a freaking brake.

Well how about i say:

The Egyptian people don’t even choose their freakin government which is FAR FAR from islamic. It is a man who is westernized and has no fear of God and is sucking up every bit of money he can. So islam is not to blame.

Saudi Arabia is an extreme country in which Islam is not applied since the people also don’t get to choose their leaders, and are oppressed just as much as any other person is. The ruling family act in ways that are completely against Islam and can not be considered islamic.

Another thing to point out about Saudi Arabia is that they choose to be a single sect country. Legally ma 7adan ilon 3a layon. Just like the US claims to be for all religions ma 7adan ilon 3a layon.

There are no Christian Saudis or Saudi’s of different confessions, yet this does a dis-justice to the Muslims since all the ignorance and negative generalizations are slapped on to all the muslims foreheads, since people like you look for anything negative to prove their own confession as better through faults of other people and purposely judge by the people and not by the content. Not to forget take every word possible out of context.

The truth that most people were cheering is a lie. Its like people see pictures of hizzy men on the streets taking over Beirut, does that mean all the Muslims support the hizzy and are taking over Beirut? All scholars that have a presence in the media and have any weight on society, education or politics came out and went against it.. and to be fair EVEN the HIZZY condemned the attacks!!

How about the fact that from those suicide bombers that were named they found them ALIVE in SAUDI? How about the fact that some douch bags who didnt even complete their certificate to fly a small personal plane are SUPPOSEDLY able to fly a 747 and accurately crash into a building! what utter bullshit! How about how they left all the evidence in car where conveniently outside of the airport! lol what a joke! I mean seriously any commoner can figure out that this whole event was completely staged. Every one is going to say conspiracy theory. What facts do you have. other then 2 planes hit the towers and some douchbag in Afghanistan sent a video claiming him and his group did it. And to top it off.. this guy was under the CIA payroll for a decade +.. give me a brake.
Where as all the evidence proves that the whole scenario was made of lies. The pentagon was hit by a plane and yet there are no wing marks to prove the collision of a plane. The towers were proven to have been demolished as apposed to give in. Witnesses are not found citing the planes of the pentagon plane crash yet dozens of firemen heard explosions and saw them take off.

So if your a mosque goer your sucuidal mania. Well how come the whole world is not in ruins of 1.5 biillion people have commited suicide by explosion. Give me a freaking brake.

Walid. I have a request of you. I want your opinion of wialyat alfaqieh’s concept and, of the fear that George Hadad and other have.
The fact that it’s a concept that does not have a wide support, and requires a set of conditions, that can never exist in a country like Lebanon.
Realistically speaking, and away from political motivations, how justified is that fear, knowing the sectarian make up of Lebanon? Don’t you think that it’s being used as scare tactic by people don’t understand the concept of Wilayat Al Faqieh?
I’d like your honest and objective opinion on this. Maybe we can shed some lights on this subject, so that those interested in real debate and knowledge could benefit. Thank you.

Walid. I have a request of you. I want your opinion of wialyat alfaqieh’s concept and, of the fear that George Hadad and other have.
The fact that it’s a concept that does not have a wide support, and requires a set of conditions, that can never exist in a country like Lebanon.
Realistically speaking, and away from political motivations, how justified is that fear, knowing the sectarian make up of Lebanon? Don’t you think that it’s being used as scare tactic by people don’t understand the concept of Wilayat Al Faqieh?
I’d like your honest and objective opinion on this. Maybe we can shed some lights on this subject, so that those interested in real debate and knowledge could benefit. Thank you.

Walid. I have a request of you. I want your opinion of wialyat alfaqieh’s concept and, of the fear that George Hadad and other have.
The fact that it’s a concept that does not have a wide support, and requires a set of conditions, that can never exist in a country like Lebanon.
Realistically speaking, and away from political motivations, how justified is that fear, knowing the sectarian make up of Lebanon? Don’t you think that it’s being used as scare tactic by people don’t understand the concept of Wilayat Al Faqieh?
I’d like your honest and objective opinion on this. Maybe we can shed some lights on this subject, so that those interested in real debate and knowledge could benefit. Thank you.

GUSS, YOU SAID YOU WANT AN ARTICLE FROM ONE MUSLIM LEADER? CHECK THIS SITE

muhajabah.com

and then check special focus: muslims condemn.

has a whole bunch of articles of muslims condemning 911 and terrorism, hows that for a slap in the face?

ya must feel pretty small now! go back and hide under that rock u ignorant s.o.b.

GUSS, YOU SAID YOU WANT AN ARTICLE FROM ONE MUSLIM LEADER? CHECK THIS SITE

muhajabah.com

and then check special focus: muslims condemn.

has a whole bunch of articles of muslims condemning 911 and terrorism, hows that for a slap in the face?

ya must feel pretty small now! go back and hide under that rock u ignorant s.o.b.

GUSS, YOU SAID YOU WANT AN ARTICLE FROM ONE MUSLIM LEADER? CHECK THIS SITE

muhajabah.com

and then check special focus: muslims condemn.

has a whole bunch of articles of muslims condemning 911 and terrorism, hows that for a slap in the face?

ya must feel pretty small now! go back and hide under that rock u ignorant s.o.b.

HERE GUSS

JUST A COUPLE EXAMPLES, CANT BELIEVE I EVEN WASTE MY TIME REPLYING TO TRASH LIKE YOU BUT I JUST WANT U TO SEE HOW DUMB YOU ARE.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – 9/11/01

U.S. MUSLIMS CONDEMN TERRORIST ATTACKS

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) – The American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC), today condemned the apparent terrorist attacks in New York and Washington and offered condolences to the families of those who were killed or injured.

The AMPCC statement read in part:

“American Muslims utterly condemn what are apparently vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.”

Leaders of the American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC) held a meeting in Washington, DC, on Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to issue the following points related to the terrorist attacks:

1) We assert unequivocal condemnation based on our religious values and our identity as American Muslims;

2) We do not need to defend every maniacal incident emanating from the Muslim world or the Muslim community, just as other religious groups need not defend their extremists;

3) We offer compassion to the victims and solidarity with all Americans in the face of danger;

4) Notwithstanding the disbelief that anyone following the faith of Islam could commit such a heinous crime, we condemn the act regardless of the identity of the perpetrators;

5) We deplore the irresponsible reporting that twists the realities and complexities of the Muslim world in order to project only anti-American sentiment during this disturbing period when we are all attempting to move beyond the state of mourning for the national tragedy;

6) We warn against opportunists who will exploit the misery and hysteria of the public in order to promote a political agenda aimed at tarnishing the name of Islam and Muslims;

7) We should not diminish our resolve to be active in protecting the civil liberties of all Americans and struggling for justice both locally and globally;

We need to organize activities to help the victims medically, psychologically and in every other way we can.

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American Muslim Alliance (AMA) Condemns Terrorist Attack

(Newark, California: 9/11/01) The American Muslim Alliance, a national civic education organization, condemned today’s terrorist attacks in New York and Washington in the “strongest terms”.

Dr. Agha Saeed, the national Chair of the American Muslim Alliance, Stated:

“These attacks are against both divine and human laws and we condemn them in the strongest terms. The Muslim Americans join the nation in calling for swift apprehension and stiff punishment of the perpetrators, and offer our sympathies to the victims and their families.”

Contact:Ph:(510) 872 – 8013 E-mail: ama@amaweb.org

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AMC Deplores The Attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council (AMC) strongly condemns this morning’s plane attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and expresses deep sorrow for Americans that were injured and killed. AMC sends out its condolence to all victims of this cowardly terrorist attack. There is no cause that justifies this type of an immoral and inhumane act that has affected so many innocent American lives. AMC supports all efforts of the investigation in order to track down the people responsible for this tragic act of terrorism.

The American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC) issued a statement which reads:
“American Muslims utterly condemn what are apparently vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No Political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.”

The AMPCC consists of AMC, Council on American-Islamic Relations, American Muslim Alliance and Muslim Public Affairs Council.
Donate Blood To Help The Innocent Victims

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council calls upon the members of the Muslim community to come together at this tragic time where so many of our fellow Americans have been killed and injured. This American tragedy affects all of us and we should do whatever we can do help save lives of the injured victims. AMC encourages Islamic Centers to start blood drive campaigns and encourages everyone to visit hospitals and medical centers in the capitol and New York City to donate much needed blood to those who are required to receive immediate medical assistance.
AMC Seeks Assistance From Law Enforcement Agencies To Protect All Americans

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council (AMC) is urging all Muslims to come together in this time of tragedy. AMC today condemned the cowardly terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington and expressed its condolences to the families of innocent people killed. This horrific violent incident disturbs American Muslims.

AMC wants all law enforcement officials to be cognizant of the fact that at times like these, there are some acts of violence perpetrated against Islamic Centers and Muslims of our communities. We are confident that authorities will protect all men, women and children. We hope to prevent the acts of violence directed towards Muslims and Islamic Centers. American Muslims experienced violent attacks and verbal harassment in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City Bombing when our fellow citizens rushed to judgment about the perpetrators of the crime. We urge our fellow Americans not to be quick to stereotype Muslims, who are also suffering at this traumatic time. We, like all Americans, want to feel secure and want to see the perpetrators brought to justice. Enough innocent lives have been killed today.

Contact: Farkhunda Ali, Communications Director
(202) 789-2262 ext. 205, farkhunda@amconline.org

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American Muslims for Jerusalem Condemns the Terrorist Attacks

(Washington, DC 9/11/01) – Joining the Muslim community around the country, the Washington based American Muslims for Jerusalem (AMJ) is appalled and strongly condemns the terrorist attacks in New York, Washington, and other parts of the country. AMJ sends out its deepest condolences to the families of the victims of these cowardly attacks.

As Muslims we utterly deplore these heinous and barbaric acts and hope for the quick apprehension and swift applications of justice. We also urge the media to exercise restraint, act responsibly when reporting, and not rush to judgment. Until the perpetrators are identified and brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restraint, and sensitive.

AMJ calls on Muslims nationwide to offer every assistance they can to help the victims of today’s terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C. Muslims in local communities should take the following IMMEDIATE ACTIONS:

* Muslim medical professionals are asked to go to the scenes of the attacks to offer aid and comfort to the victims.
* Muslim relief agencies should contact their counterparts to offer support in the recovery efforts.
* Individual Muslims should donate blood by contacting the local office of the Red Cross. (Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.) They should also send donations to those relief agencies that are on the scene of the attacks.

American Muslims for Jerusalem
Tel (202)548-4200, Fax (202)548-4201

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MUSLIMS ASKED TO OFFER HELP FOR VICTIMS OF TERRORIST ATTACKS

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) – The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is calling on Muslims nationwide to offer whatever assistance they can to help the victims of today’s terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C.

Muslims in local communities should take the following IMMEDIATE ACTIONS:

* Muslim medical professionals are asked to go to the scenes of the attacks to offer aid and comfort to the victims.

* Muslim relief agencies should contact their counterparts to offer support in the recovery efforts.

* Individual Muslims should donate blood by contacting the local office of the Red Cross. (Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.) They should also send donations to those relief agencies that are on the scene of the attacks.

MUSLIMS OFFER HELP FOR VICTIMS OF TERRORIST ATTACKS

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) – The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a prominent Washington-based Islamic advocacy group, is calling on Muslims nationwide to offer whatever assistance they can to help the victims of today’s terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C.

In an alert to the American Muslim community, CAIR suggested that the following actions be taken:
Muslim medical professionals are asked to go to the scenes of the attacks to offer aid and comfort to the victims.

Muslim relief agencies should contact their counterparts to offer support in the recovery efforts.
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Individual Muslims should donate blood by contacting the local office of the Red Cross. (Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.) They should also send donations to those relief agencies that are on the scene of the attacks.
CAIR’s alert asked community members to report incidents of anti-Muslim harassment or attacks. It also suggested steps to take to increase security around mosques and Islamic centers. (In the first few days following the 1995 attack on the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma, Muslims reported more than 200 incidents of harassment, threats and actual violence. CAIR has already received reports of harassment and attacks against Muslims who wear Islamic attire.)

Security precautions suggested by CAIR’s alert include:
Those who wear Islamic attire should consider staying out of public areas for the immediate future.

Request additional police patrols in the vicinity of mosques.

Post mosque members at entrances and parking areas during prayer times.

Report suspicious packages to police.

Document descriptions of suspicious people or vehicles.
There are an estimated seven million Muslims in America and some 1.2 billion worldwide. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in this country and around the world.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

ISNA CONDEMNS TERRORIST ATTACKS

(Plainfield, IN – 9/11/2001) – The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) joins Muslim Americans and all Americans in expressing its deep sorrow over the apparently deliberate air-crashes in New York and Washington, DC that have led to the loss of countless innocent lives.

ISNA joins Muslim organizations throughout North America in condemning theses apparent terrorist attacks and calls upon Muslim Americans to come forward with their skills and resources to help alleviate the sufferings of the affected people and their families.

ISNA condemns these apparently senseless acts of terrorism against innocent civilians, which will only be counterproductive to any agenda the perpetrators may have had in mind. No political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.

We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators, and call upon our justice system to maintain strict standards of justice and fairness in these trying times.

We also urge the media to exercise restraint, and to act responsibly when reporting on these terrorist attacks. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restrained and sensitive. Let us pray to God that He may Guide us all to keep firm in following our principles and offer relief to the victims of violence wherever they may be.

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CONTACT: Dr. Sayyid M. Syeed, Secretary General of ISNA
TEL: 317-839-8157 ext 222 Email: info@isna.net

Signatories:

American Muslim Alliance, American Muslim Council, Association of Muslim Scientists and Engineers, Association of Muslim Social Scientists, Council on American-Islamic Relations, Islamic Medical Association of North America, Islamic Circle of North America, Islamic Society of North America, Ministry of Imam W. Deen Mohammed, Muslim American Society, Muslim Public Affairs Council

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – 9/11/01

The Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), condemns in the strongest possible way the heinous and horrific acts of terrorism that occurred in New York City and Washington, D.C.,
this morning.

The American Muslim community is united in its support to the law enforcement agencies in bringing the culprits to justice. We join our fellow citizens in this moment of grief and sorrow.

We urge all to donate blood for the victims at their local blood centers. Our hearts are with those who have lost loved ones in this terrible tragedy and our prayers are with the departed souls.

URGENT APPEAL, PLEASE HELP, WE NEED MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND NURSES VOLUNTEER TO PROVIDE HELP FOR THE VICTIMS IN NYC

ICNA RELIEF WILL PROVIDE FOOD AND RESIDENCE, PLEASE DONATE BLOOD FOR THE VICTIMS

CONTACT US AT 718 658 7028, ICNA Relief, 166-26 89th Ave., Jamaica, NY 11432

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For Immediate Release
September 11, 2001

AMERICAN MUSLIMS CONDEMN TERRORIST ATTACKS

Islamic Shura (Consultative) Council of Southern California (ISCSC) on the behalf of all Masajid (Mosques) and Muslim community in Southern California joining Muslims around the country to condemns the latest cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians.

We join with all our fellow Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.”

We offer our sincere and heartfelt condolences to the families of the
victims of those who were killed or injured. We pray to God, the Cherisher of all people to bestow His mercy upon all & help us in patience to overcome this catastrophe. We pray that those who love God will take this opportunity to put their hands together to bring the values of love, decency, fairness and Justice back into our lives.

We also urge the media to exercise restraint, and to act responsibly when reporting on these terrorist attacks. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restrained and sensitive.

The Islamic Shura Council is inviting all religious leaders of all faiths to a prayer meeting at the City of Pasadena Auditorium at 11:00 am on East Green Street. Many religious leaders of all faiths have already accepted to participate.

God Bless America.

Contact: Dr. Yahia Abdul Rahman, Chairman of ISCSC at: (626) 255-2181

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PRESS RELEASE: MUSLIM THINK TANK CONDEMNS APPARENT TERRORIST ATTACKS

Minaret of Freedom Institute
4323 Rosedale Avenue, Bethesda, MD 20814

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE!!!!
Contact: Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad, Ph.D.
301-907-0947

MUSLIM THINK TANK CONDEMNS APPARENT TERRORIST ATTACKS ASKS MUSLIMS TO DONATE BLOOD AND MONEY TO AID VICTIMS AND FAMILIES

Bethesda, MD (September 11, 2001). The Minaret of Freedom Institute, a Washington, DC area Islamic policy research institute today condemned the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad, President of the organization, denounced the attacks and expressed condolences for the victims and their families. “For American Muslims the unprecedented coordinated attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon is a triple tragedy,” Ahmad said. “As Americans, our country is under attack. As Muslims, the tragedy of attacks on noncombatants is anathema to us. Finally, as the ‘usual suspects’ in a situation of this type we must be concerned with a new acceleration of persecution against us and our families.”

Ahmad noted that a number of Muslim organizations have already stepped forward to serve as good neighbors. Both the Islamic-American Zakat Foundation, a Bethesda, Maryland charitable organization and the American Muslim Foundation in Alexandria, Virginia NGO are organizing blood drives to help out with the crisis caused by the violence. Ahmad also acknowledged the care being given by local law enforcement agencies to protect all citizens from violent acts that might be sparked by frustration over this morning’s attacks. In particular he noted special efforts by the Montgomery County police in Maryland to contact Muslim organizations. Ahmad expressed concern that amid recent vilification of the American Muslim community by commentators Daniel Pipes and Steven Emerson, the FBI has recently devoted resources to shutting down Islamic web sites when such resources might have been better allocated to protect against problems like today’s attacks. “I hope the authorities will be able to identify the planners and perpetrators of these crimes and bring them to justice,” Ahmad said.

The Minaret of Freedom Institute (MFI), located in the Washington, DC area, is dedicated to research and educational efforts regarding Islamic law and Muslim history. MFI summarizes its purposes as: to “counter distortions and misconceptions about Islamic law and practice; demonstrate the Islamic origins of [certain] modern values …; expose both American and Islamic world Muslims to free market thought; [and] advance the status of Muslim peoples maligned by a hostile environment in the West and oppressed by repressive political regimes in the East.” Dr. Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad is co-editor with Ahmed Yousef of Islam and the West: A Dialog.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – 9/11/01

SHARI’A SCHOLARS ASSOCIATION OF NORTH AMERICA (SSANA) CONDEMNS TERRORIST ATTACKS

(Detroit, MI – 9/11/2001) The Shari’a Scholars Association of North America (SSANA) strongly condemn this morning’s plane attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and expresses its deep sorrow for Americans that were injured and killed. SSANA send out its condolence to all victims of this cowardly terrorist attack. There is no cause that justifies this type of an immoral and inhumane act that has affected so many innocent Amercian lives. SSANA supports all efforts to investigate and immediately capture the evil persons responsible for these immoral can cowardly acts. Certainly, there is no justification for these acts from either an Islamic perspective or, in truth, from the perspective of any other moral and freedom-loving people. These acts diminish the freedom of all Americans, including American Muslims. Our condolence go out to all of the victims of these inhumane acts.

HERE GUSS

JUST A COUPLE EXAMPLES, CANT BELIEVE I EVEN WASTE MY TIME REPLYING TO TRASH LIKE YOU BUT I JUST WANT U TO SEE HOW DUMB YOU ARE.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – 9/11/01

U.S. MUSLIMS CONDEMN TERRORIST ATTACKS

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) – The American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC), today condemned the apparent terrorist attacks in New York and Washington and offered condolences to the families of those who were killed or injured.

The AMPCC statement read in part:

“American Muslims utterly condemn what are apparently vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.”

Leaders of the American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC) held a meeting in Washington, DC, on Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to issue the following points related to the terrorist attacks:

1) We assert unequivocal condemnation based on our religious values and our identity as American Muslims;

2) We do not need to defend every maniacal incident emanating from the Muslim world or the Muslim community, just as other religious groups need not defend their extremists;

3) We offer compassion to the victims and solidarity with all Americans in the face of danger;

4) Notwithstanding the disbelief that anyone following the faith of Islam could commit such a heinous crime, we condemn the act regardless of the identity of the perpetrators;

5) We deplore the irresponsible reporting that twists the realities and complexities of the Muslim world in order to project only anti-American sentiment during this disturbing period when we are all attempting to move beyond the state of mourning for the national tragedy;

6) We warn against opportunists who will exploit the misery and hysteria of the public in order to promote a political agenda aimed at tarnishing the name of Islam and Muslims;

7) We should not diminish our resolve to be active in protecting the civil liberties of all Americans and struggling for justice both locally and globally;

We need to organize activities to help the victims medically, psychologically and in every other way we can.

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American Muslim Alliance (AMA) Condemns Terrorist Attack

(Newark, California: 9/11/01) The American Muslim Alliance, a national civic education organization, condemned today’s terrorist attacks in New York and Washington in the “strongest terms”.

Dr. Agha Saeed, the national Chair of the American Muslim Alliance, Stated:

“These attacks are against both divine and human laws and we condemn them in the strongest terms. The Muslim Americans join the nation in calling for swift apprehension and stiff punishment of the perpetrators, and offer our sympathies to the victims and their families.”

Contact:Ph:(510) 872 – 8013 E-mail: ama@amaweb.org

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AMC Deplores The Attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council (AMC) strongly condemns this morning’s plane attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and expresses deep sorrow for Americans that were injured and killed. AMC sends out its condolence to all victims of this cowardly terrorist attack. There is no cause that justifies this type of an immoral and inhumane act that has affected so many innocent American lives. AMC supports all efforts of the investigation in order to track down the people responsible for this tragic act of terrorism.

The American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC) issued a statement which reads:
“American Muslims utterly condemn what are apparently vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No Political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.”

The AMPCC consists of AMC, Council on American-Islamic Relations, American Muslim Alliance and Muslim Public Affairs Council.
Donate Blood To Help The Innocent Victims

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council calls upon the members of the Muslim community to come together at this tragic time where so many of our fellow Americans have been killed and injured. This American tragedy affects all of us and we should do whatever we can do help save lives of the injured victims. AMC encourages Islamic Centers to start blood drive campaigns and encourages everyone to visit hospitals and medical centers in the capitol and New York City to donate much needed blood to those who are required to receive immediate medical assistance.
AMC Seeks Assistance From Law Enforcement Agencies To Protect All Americans

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council (AMC) is urging all Muslims to come together in this time of tragedy. AMC today condemned the cowardly terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington and expressed its condolences to the families of innocent people killed. This horrific violent incident disturbs American Muslims.

AMC wants all law enforcement officials to be cognizant of the fact that at times like these, there are some acts of violence perpetrated against Islamic Centers and Muslims of our communities. We are confident that authorities will protect all men, women and children. We hope to prevent the acts of violence directed towards Muslims and Islamic Centers. American Muslims experienced violent attacks and verbal harassment in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City Bombing when our fellow citizens rushed to judgment about the perpetrators of the crime. We urge our fellow Americans not to be quick to stereotype Muslims, who are also suffering at this traumatic time. We, like all Americans, want to feel secure and want to see the perpetrators brought to justice. Enough innocent lives have been killed today.

Contact: Farkhunda Ali, Communications Director
(202) 789-2262 ext. 205, farkhunda@amconline.org

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American Muslims for Jerusalem Condemns the Terrorist Attacks

(Washington, DC 9/11/01) – Joining the Muslim community around the country, the Washington based American Muslims for Jerusalem (AMJ) is appalled and strongly condemns the terrorist attacks in New York, Washington, and other parts of the country. AMJ sends out its deepest condolences to the families of the victims of these cowardly attacks.

As Muslims we utterly deplore these heinous and barbaric acts and hope for the quick apprehension and swift applications of justice. We also urge the media to exercise restraint, act responsibly when reporting, and not rush to judgment. Until the perpetrators are identified and brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restraint, and sensitive.

AMJ calls on Muslims nationwide to offer every assistance they can to help the victims of today’s terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C. Muslims in local communities should take the following IMMEDIATE ACTIONS:

* Muslim medical professionals are asked to go to the scenes of the attacks to offer aid and comfort to the victims.
* Muslim relief agencies should contact their counterparts to offer support in the recovery efforts.
* Individual Muslims should donate blood by contacting the local office of the Red Cross. (Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.) They should also send donations to those relief agencies that are on the scene of the attacks.

American Muslims for Jerusalem
Tel (202)548-4200, Fax (202)548-4201

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MUSLIMS ASKED TO OFFER HELP FOR VICTIMS OF TERRORIST ATTACKS

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) – The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is calling on Muslims nationwide to offer whatever assistance they can to help the victims of today’s terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C.

Muslims in local communities should take the following IMMEDIATE ACTIONS:

* Muslim medical professionals are asked to go to the scenes of the attacks to offer aid and comfort to the victims.

* Muslim relief agencies should contact their counterparts to offer support in the recovery efforts.

* Individual Muslims should donate blood by contacting the local office of the Red Cross. (Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.) They should also send donations to those relief agencies that are on the scene of the attacks.

MUSLIMS OFFER HELP FOR VICTIMS OF TERRORIST ATTACKS

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) – The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a prominent Washington-based Islamic advocacy group, is calling on Muslims nationwide to offer whatever assistance they can to help the victims of today’s terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C.

In an alert to the American Muslim community, CAIR suggested that the following actions be taken:
Muslim medical professionals are asked to go to the scenes of the attacks to offer aid and comfort to the victims.

Muslim relief agencies should contact their counterparts to offer support in the recovery efforts.
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Individual Muslims should donate blood by contacting the local office of the Red Cross. (Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.) They should also send donations to those relief agencies that are on the scene of the attacks.
CAIR’s alert asked community members to report incidents of anti-Muslim harassment or attacks. It also suggested steps to take to increase security around mosques and Islamic centers. (In the first few days following the 1995 attack on the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma, Muslims reported more than 200 incidents of harassment, threats and actual violence. CAIR has already received reports of harassment and attacks against Muslims who wear Islamic attire.)

Security precautions suggested by CAIR’s alert include:
Those who wear Islamic attire should consider staying out of public areas for the immediate future.

Request additional police patrols in the vicinity of mosques.

Post mosque members at entrances and parking areas during prayer times.

Report suspicious packages to police.

Document descriptions of suspicious people or vehicles.
There are an estimated seven million Muslims in America and some 1.2 billion worldwide. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in this country and around the world.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

ISNA CONDEMNS TERRORIST ATTACKS

(Plainfield, IN – 9/11/2001) – The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) joins Muslim Americans and all Americans in expressing its deep sorrow over the apparently deliberate air-crashes in New York and Washington, DC that have led to the loss of countless innocent lives.

ISNA joins Muslim organizations throughout North America in condemning theses apparent terrorist attacks and calls upon Muslim Americans to come forward with their skills and resources to help alleviate the sufferings of the affected people and their families.

ISNA condemns these apparently senseless acts of terrorism against innocent civilians, which will only be counterproductive to any agenda the perpetrators may have had in mind. No political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.

We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators, and call upon our justice system to maintain strict standards of justice and fairness in these trying times.

We also urge the media to exercise restraint, and to act responsibly when reporting on these terrorist attacks. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restrained and sensitive. Let us pray to God that He may Guide us all to keep firm in following our principles and offer relief to the victims of violence wherever they may be.

- END –

CONTACT: Dr. Sayyid M. Syeed, Secretary General of ISNA
TEL: 317-839-8157 ext 222 Email: info@isna.net

Signatories:

American Muslim Alliance, American Muslim Council, Association of Muslim Scientists and Engineers, Association of Muslim Social Scientists, Council on American-Islamic Relations, Islamic Medical Association of North America, Islamic Circle of North America, Islamic Society of North America, Ministry of Imam W. Deen Mohammed, Muslim American Society, Muslim Public Affairs Council

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – 9/11/01

The Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), condemns in the strongest possible way the heinous and horrific acts of terrorism that occurred in New York City and Washington, D.C.,
this morning.

The American Muslim community is united in its support to the law enforcement agencies in bringing the culprits to justice. We join our fellow citizens in this moment of grief and sorrow.

We urge all to donate blood for the victims at their local blood centers. Our hearts are with those who have lost loved ones in this terrible tragedy and our prayers are with the departed souls.

URGENT APPEAL, PLEASE HELP, WE NEED MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND NURSES VOLUNTEER TO PROVIDE HELP FOR THE VICTIMS IN NYC

ICNA RELIEF WILL PROVIDE FOOD AND RESIDENCE, PLEASE DONATE BLOOD FOR THE VICTIMS

CONTACT US AT 718 658 7028, ICNA Relief, 166-26 89th Ave., Jamaica, NY 11432

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For Immediate Release
September 11, 2001

AMERICAN MUSLIMS CONDEMN TERRORIST ATTACKS

Islamic Shura (Consultative) Council of Southern California (ISCSC) on the behalf of all Masajid (Mosques) and Muslim community in Southern California joining Muslims around the country to condemns the latest cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians.

We join with all our fellow Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.”

We offer our sincere and heartfelt condolences to the families of the
victims of those who were killed or injured. We pray to God, the Cherisher of all people to bestow His mercy upon all & help us in patience to overcome this catastrophe. We pray that those who love God will take this opportunity to put their hands together to bring the values of love, decency, fairness and Justice back into our lives.

We also urge the media to exercise restraint, and to act responsibly when reporting on these terrorist attacks. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restrained and sensitive.

The Islamic Shura Council is inviting all religious leaders of all faiths to a prayer meeting at the City of Pasadena Auditorium at 11:00 am on East Green Street. Many religious leaders of all faiths have already accepted to participate.

God Bless America.

Contact: Dr. Yahia Abdul Rahman, Chairman of ISCSC at: (626) 255-2181

——————————————————————————–

PRESS RELEASE: MUSLIM THINK TANK CONDEMNS APPARENT TERRORIST ATTACKS

Minaret of Freedom Institute
4323 Rosedale Avenue, Bethesda, MD 20814

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE!!!!
Contact: Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad, Ph.D.
301-907-0947

MUSLIM THINK TANK CONDEMNS APPARENT TERRORIST ATTACKS ASKS MUSLIMS TO DONATE BLOOD AND MONEY TO AID VICTIMS AND FAMILIES

Bethesda, MD (September 11, 2001). The Minaret of Freedom Institute, a Washington, DC area Islamic policy research institute today condemned the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad, President of the organization, denounced the attacks and expressed condolences for the victims and their families. “For American Muslims the unprecedented coordinated attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon is a triple tragedy,” Ahmad said. “As Americans, our country is under attack. As Muslims, the tragedy of attacks on noncombatants is anathema to us. Finally, as the ‘usual suspects’ in a situation of this type we must be concerned with a new acceleration of persecution against us and our families.”

Ahmad noted that a number of Muslim organizations have already stepped forward to serve as good neighbors. Both the Islamic-American Zakat Foundation, a Bethesda, Maryland charitable organization and the American Muslim Foundation in Alexandria, Virginia NGO are organizing blood drives to help out with the crisis caused by the violence. Ahmad also acknowledged the care being given by local law enforcement agencies to protect all citizens from violent acts that might be sparked by frustration over this morning’s attacks. In particular he noted special efforts by the Montgomery County police in Maryland to contact Muslim organizations. Ahmad expressed concern that amid recent vilification of the American Muslim community by commentators Daniel Pipes and Steven Emerson, the FBI has recently devoted resources to shutting down Islamic web sites when such resources might have been better allocated to protect against problems like today’s attacks. “I hope the authorities will be able to identify the planners and perpetrators of these crimes and bring them to justice,” Ahmad said.

The Minaret of Freedom Institute (MFI), located in the Washington, DC area, is dedicated to research and educational efforts regarding Islamic law and Muslim history. MFI summarizes its purposes as: to “counter distortions and misconceptions about Islamic law and practice; demonstrate the Islamic origins of [certain] modern values …; expose both American and Islamic world Muslims to free market thought; [and] advance the status of Muslim peoples maligned by a hostile environment in the West and oppressed by repressive political regimes in the East.” Dr. Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad is co-editor with Ahmed Yousef of Islam and the West: A Dialog.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – 9/11/01

SHARI’A SCHOLARS ASSOCIATION OF NORTH AMERICA (SSANA) CONDEMNS TERRORIST ATTACKS

(Detroit, MI – 9/11/2001) The Shari’a Scholars Association of North America (SSANA) strongly condemn this morning’s plane attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and expresses its deep sorrow for Americans that were injured and killed. SSANA send out its condolence to all victims of this cowardly terrorist attack. There is no cause that justifies this type of an immoral and inhumane act that has affected so many innocent Amercian lives. SSANA supports all efforts to investigate and immediately capture the evil persons responsible for these immoral can cowardly acts. Certainly, there is no justification for these acts from either an Islamic perspective or, in truth, from the perspective of any other moral and freedom-loving people. These acts diminish the freedom of all Americans, including American Muslims. Our condolence go out to all of the victims of these inhumane acts.

HERE GUSS

JUST A COUPLE EXAMPLES, CANT BELIEVE I EVEN WASTE MY TIME REPLYING TO TRASH LIKE YOU BUT I JUST WANT U TO SEE HOW DUMB YOU ARE.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – 9/11/01

U.S. MUSLIMS CONDEMN TERRORIST ATTACKS

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) – The American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC), today condemned the apparent terrorist attacks in New York and Washington and offered condolences to the families of those who were killed or injured.

The AMPCC statement read in part:

“American Muslims utterly condemn what are apparently vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.”

Leaders of the American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC) held a meeting in Washington, DC, on Tuesday, September 11, 2001, to issue the following points related to the terrorist attacks:

1) We assert unequivocal condemnation based on our religious values and our identity as American Muslims;

2) We do not need to defend every maniacal incident emanating from the Muslim world or the Muslim community, just as other religious groups need not defend their extremists;

3) We offer compassion to the victims and solidarity with all Americans in the face of danger;

4) Notwithstanding the disbelief that anyone following the faith of Islam could commit such a heinous crime, we condemn the act regardless of the identity of the perpetrators;

5) We deplore the irresponsible reporting that twists the realities and complexities of the Muslim world in order to project only anti-American sentiment during this disturbing period when we are all attempting to move beyond the state of mourning for the national tragedy;

6) We warn against opportunists who will exploit the misery and hysteria of the public in order to promote a political agenda aimed at tarnishing the name of Islam and Muslims;

7) We should not diminish our resolve to be active in protecting the civil liberties of all Americans and struggling for justice both locally and globally;

We need to organize activities to help the victims medically, psychologically and in every other way we can.

——————————————————————————–

American Muslim Alliance (AMA) Condemns Terrorist Attack

(Newark, California: 9/11/01) The American Muslim Alliance, a national civic education organization, condemned today’s terrorist attacks in New York and Washington in the “strongest terms”.

Dr. Agha Saeed, the national Chair of the American Muslim Alliance, Stated:

“These attacks are against both divine and human laws and we condemn them in the strongest terms. The Muslim Americans join the nation in calling for swift apprehension and stiff punishment of the perpetrators, and offer our sympathies to the victims and their families.”

Contact:Ph:(510) 872 – 8013 E-mail: ama@amaweb.org

——————————————————————————–

AMC Deplores The Attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council (AMC) strongly condemns this morning’s plane attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and expresses deep sorrow for Americans that were injured and killed. AMC sends out its condolence to all victims of this cowardly terrorist attack. There is no cause that justifies this type of an immoral and inhumane act that has affected so many innocent American lives. AMC supports all efforts of the investigation in order to track down the people responsible for this tragic act of terrorism.

The American Muslim Political Coordination Council (AMPCC) issued a statement which reads:
“American Muslims utterly condemn what are apparently vicious and cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians. We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No Political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.”

The AMPCC consists of AMC, Council on American-Islamic Relations, American Muslim Alliance and Muslim Public Affairs Council.
Donate Blood To Help The Innocent Victims

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council calls upon the members of the Muslim community to come together at this tragic time where so many of our fellow Americans have been killed and injured. This American tragedy affects all of us and we should do whatever we can do help save lives of the injured victims. AMC encourages Islamic Centers to start blood drive campaigns and encourages everyone to visit hospitals and medical centers in the capitol and New York City to donate much needed blood to those who are required to receive immediate medical assistance.
AMC Seeks Assistance From Law Enforcement Agencies To Protect All Americans

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) The American Muslim Council (AMC) is urging all Muslims to come together in this time of tragedy. AMC today condemned the cowardly terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington and expressed its condolences to the families of innocent people killed. This horrific violent incident disturbs American Muslims.

AMC wants all law enforcement officials to be cognizant of the fact that at times like these, there are some acts of violence perpetrated against Islamic Centers and Muslims of our communities. We are confident that authorities will protect all men, women and children. We hope to prevent the acts of violence directed towards Muslims and Islamic Centers. American Muslims experienced violent attacks and verbal harassment in the aftermath of the Oklahoma City Bombing when our fellow citizens rushed to judgment about the perpetrators of the crime. We urge our fellow Americans not to be quick to stereotype Muslims, who are also suffering at this traumatic time. We, like all Americans, want to feel secure and want to see the perpetrators brought to justice. Enough innocent lives have been killed today.

Contact: Farkhunda Ali, Communications Director
(202) 789-2262 ext. 205, farkhunda@amconline.org

——————————————————————————–

American Muslims for Jerusalem Condemns the Terrorist Attacks

(Washington, DC 9/11/01) – Joining the Muslim community around the country, the Washington based American Muslims for Jerusalem (AMJ) is appalled and strongly condemns the terrorist attacks in New York, Washington, and other parts of the country. AMJ sends out its deepest condolences to the families of the victims of these cowardly attacks.

As Muslims we utterly deplore these heinous and barbaric acts and hope for the quick apprehension and swift applications of justice. We also urge the media to exercise restraint, act responsibly when reporting, and not rush to judgment. Until the perpetrators are identified and brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restraint, and sensitive.

AMJ calls on Muslims nationwide to offer every assistance they can to help the victims of today’s terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C. Muslims in local communities should take the following IMMEDIATE ACTIONS:

* Muslim medical professionals are asked to go to the scenes of the attacks to offer aid and comfort to the victims.
* Muslim relief agencies should contact their counterparts to offer support in the recovery efforts.
* Individual Muslims should donate blood by contacting the local office of the Red Cross. (Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.) They should also send donations to those relief agencies that are on the scene of the attacks.

American Muslims for Jerusalem
Tel (202)548-4200, Fax (202)548-4201

——————————————————————————–

MUSLIMS ASKED TO OFFER HELP FOR VICTIMS OF TERRORIST ATTACKS

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) – The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is calling on Muslims nationwide to offer whatever assistance they can to help the victims of today’s terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C.

Muslims in local communities should take the following IMMEDIATE ACTIONS:

* Muslim medical professionals are asked to go to the scenes of the attacks to offer aid and comfort to the victims.

* Muslim relief agencies should contact their counterparts to offer support in the recovery efforts.

* Individual Muslims should donate blood by contacting the local office of the Red Cross. (Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.) They should also send donations to those relief agencies that are on the scene of the attacks.

MUSLIMS OFFER HELP FOR VICTIMS OF TERRORIST ATTACKS

(WASHINGTON, DC – 9/11/2001) – The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a prominent Washington-based Islamic advocacy group, is calling on Muslims nationwide to offer whatever assistance they can to help the victims of today’s terrorist attacks in New York and Washington, D.C.

In an alert to the American Muslim community, CAIR suggested that the following actions be taken:
Muslim medical professionals are asked to go to the scenes of the attacks to offer aid and comfort to the victims.

Muslim relief agencies should contact their counterparts to offer support in the recovery efforts.
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Individual Muslims should donate blood by contacting the local office of the Red Cross. (Call 1-800-GIVE-LIFE.) They should also send donations to those relief agencies that are on the scene of the attacks.
CAIR’s alert asked community members to report incidents of anti-Muslim harassment or attacks. It also suggested steps to take to increase security around mosques and Islamic centers. (In the first few days following the 1995 attack on the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma, Muslims reported more than 200 incidents of harassment, threats and actual violence. CAIR has already received reports of harassment and attacks against Muslims who wear Islamic attire.)

Security precautions suggested by CAIR’s alert include:
Those who wear Islamic attire should consider staying out of public areas for the immediate future.

Request additional police patrols in the vicinity of mosques.

Post mosque members at entrances and parking areas during prayer times.

Report suspicious packages to police.

Document descriptions of suspicious people or vehicles.
There are an estimated seven million Muslims in America and some 1.2 billion worldwide. Islam is one of the fastest growing religions in this country and around the world.

——————————————————————————–

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

ISNA CONDEMNS TERRORIST ATTACKS

(Plainfield, IN – 9/11/2001) – The Islamic Society of North America (ISNA) joins Muslim Americans and all Americans in expressing its deep sorrow over the apparently deliberate air-crashes in New York and Washington, DC that have led to the loss of countless innocent lives.

ISNA joins Muslim organizations throughout North America in condemning theses apparent terrorist attacks and calls upon Muslim Americans to come forward with their skills and resources to help alleviate the sufferings of the affected people and their families.

ISNA condemns these apparently senseless acts of terrorism against innocent civilians, which will only be counterproductive to any agenda the perpetrators may have had in mind. No political cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.

We join with all Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators, and call upon our justice system to maintain strict standards of justice and fairness in these trying times.

We also urge the media to exercise restraint, and to act responsibly when reporting on these terrorist attacks. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restrained and sensitive. Let us pray to God that He may Guide us all to keep firm in following our principles and offer relief to the victims of violence wherever they may be.

- END –

CONTACT: Dr. Sayyid M. Syeed, Secretary General of ISNA
TEL: 317-839-8157 ext 222 Email: info@isna.net

Signatories:

American Muslim Alliance, American Muslim Council, Association of Muslim Scientists and Engineers, Association of Muslim Social Scientists, Council on American-Islamic Relations, Islamic Medical Association of North America, Islamic Circle of North America, Islamic Society of North America, Ministry of Imam W. Deen Mohammed, Muslim American Society, Muslim Public Affairs Council

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – 9/11/01

The Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), condemns in the strongest possible way the heinous and horrific acts of terrorism that occurred in New York City and Washington, D.C.,
this morning.

The American Muslim community is united in its support to the law enforcement agencies in bringing the culprits to justice. We join our fellow citizens in this moment of grief and sorrow.

We urge all to donate blood for the victims at their local blood centers. Our hearts are with those who have lost loved ones in this terrible tragedy and our prayers are with the departed souls.

URGENT APPEAL, PLEASE HELP, WE NEED MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND NURSES VOLUNTEER TO PROVIDE HELP FOR THE VICTIMS IN NYC

ICNA RELIEF WILL PROVIDE FOOD AND RESIDENCE, PLEASE DONATE BLOOD FOR THE VICTIMS

CONTACT US AT 718 658 7028, ICNA Relief, 166-26 89th Ave., Jamaica, NY 11432

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For Immediate Release
September 11, 2001

AMERICAN MUSLIMS CONDEMN TERRORIST ATTACKS

Islamic Shura (Consultative) Council of Southern California (ISCSC) on the behalf of all Masajid (Mosques) and Muslim community in Southern California joining Muslims around the country to condemns the latest cowardly acts of terrorism against innocent civilians.

We join with all our fellow Americans in calling for the swift apprehension and punishment of the perpetrators. No cause could ever be assisted by such immoral acts.”

We offer our sincere and heartfelt condolences to the families of the
victims of those who were killed or injured. We pray to God, the Cherisher of all people to bestow His mercy upon all & help us in patience to overcome this catastrophe. We pray that those who love God will take this opportunity to put their hands together to bring the values of love, decency, fairness and Justice back into our lives.

We also urge the media to exercise restraint, and to act responsibly when reporting on these terrorist attacks. Until the perpetrators are brought to justice, all media reports should be accurate, restrained and sensitive.

The Islamic Shura Council is inviting all religious leaders of all faiths to a prayer meeting at the City of Pasadena Auditorium at 11:00 am on East Green Street. Many religious leaders of all faiths have already accepted to participate.

God Bless America.

Contact: Dr. Yahia Abdul Rahman, Chairman of ISCSC at: (626) 255-2181

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PRESS RELEASE: MUSLIM THINK TANK CONDEMNS APPARENT TERRORIST ATTACKS

Minaret of Freedom Institute
4323 Rosedale Avenue, Bethesda, MD 20814

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE!!!!
Contact: Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad, Ph.D.
301-907-0947

MUSLIM THINK TANK CONDEMNS APPARENT TERRORIST ATTACKS ASKS MUSLIMS TO DONATE BLOOD AND MONEY TO AID VICTIMS AND FAMILIES

Bethesda, MD (September 11, 2001). The Minaret of Freedom Institute, a Washington, DC area Islamic policy research institute today condemned the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad, President of the organization, denounced the attacks and expressed condolences for the victims and their families. “For American Muslims the unprecedented coordinated attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon is a triple tragedy,” Ahmad said. “As Americans, our country is under attack. As Muslims, the tragedy of attacks on noncombatants is anathema to us. Finally, as the ‘usual suspects’ in a situation of this type we must be concerned with a new acceleration of persecution against us and our families.”

Ahmad noted that a number of Muslim organizations have already stepped forward to serve as good neighbors. Both the Islamic-American Zakat Foundation, a Bethesda, Maryland charitable organization and the American Muslim Foundation in Alexandria, Virginia NGO are organizing blood drives to help out with the crisis caused by the violence. Ahmad also acknowledged the care being given by local law enforcement agencies to protect all citizens from violent acts that might be sparked by frustration over this morning’s attacks. In particular he noted special efforts by the Montgomery County police in Maryland to contact Muslim organizations. Ahmad expressed concern that amid recent vilification of the American Muslim community by commentators Daniel Pipes and Steven Emerson, the FBI has recently devoted resources to shutting down Islamic web sites when such resources might have been better allocated to protect against problems like today’s attacks. “I hope the authorities will be able to identify the planners and perpetrators of these crimes and bring them to justice,” Ahmad said.

The Minaret of Freedom Institute (MFI), located in the Washington, DC area, is dedicated to research and educational efforts regarding Islamic law and Muslim history. MFI summarizes its purposes as: to “counter distortions and misconceptions about Islamic law and practice; demonstrate the Islamic origins of [certain] modern values …; expose both American and Islamic world Muslims to free market thought; [and] advance the status of Muslim peoples maligned by a hostile environment in the West and oppressed by repressive political regimes in the East.” Dr. Imad-ad-Dean Ahmad is co-editor with Ahmed Yousef of Islam and the West: A Dialog.

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE – 9/11/01

SHARI’A SCHOLARS ASSOCIATION OF NORTH AMERICA (SSANA) CONDEMNS TERRORIST ATTACKS

(Detroit, MI – 9/11/2001) The Shari’a Scholars Association of North America (SSANA) strongly condemn this morning’s plane attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and expresses its deep sorrow for Americans that were injured and killed. SSANA send out its condolence to all victims of this cowardly terrorist attack. There is no cause that justifies this type of an immoral and inhumane act that has affected so many innocent Amercian lives. SSANA supports all efforts to investigate and immediately capture the evil persons responsible for these immoral can cowardly acts. Certainly, there is no justification for these acts from either an Islamic perspective or, in truth, from the perspective of any other moral and freedom-loving people. These acts diminish the freedom of all Americans, including American Muslims. Our condolence go out to all of the victims of these inhumane acts.

gus shut up and go to hades

gus shut up and go to hades

gus shut up and go to hades

karim, ya 7wainait ismak feek, ma fi shi minnak bi 2adem karama, bil aks, killak illait karama w illait a5la2 w illait zo2. tfee 3ala haik nas.

karim, ya 7wainait ismak feek, ma fi shi minnak bi 2adem karama, bil aks, killak illait karama w illait a5la2 w illait zo2. tfee 3ala haik nas.

karim, ya 7wainait ismak feek, ma fi shi minnak bi 2adem karama, bil aks, killak illait karama w illait a5la2 w illait zo2. tfee 3ala haik nas.

Prophet somewhere up there asking Walid about his opinion about Wali Al Faqih and its fear and its not popular or supported in Lebanon. Even its not popular in Lebanon ya Prophet that doesn’t mean it cannot be implemented by force. Many March 14th supporters believe hezbollah and its surrounding supporters believe Iran is an angel sent from heaven. To us there is as much devil as israel okay. Having said that many iranians do not believe in their gov’t and supports it. yet they have subdued the population since the uprising in 1988 when grand Ayatollah Khomeini crushed the revolt against the islamic republic and thousands were killed. As of last year many iranians killed simply because they were protesting the votes. The reason i am going to back to Iran beacuse we March 14th believe that you are following wholeheartdly the nation of iran and its implementing its plans and wills in lebanon and everywhere as of late also iraq. Hezbollah were attacking US troops in Iraq as of late. What are you buddies doing there? Iran has sent several intelligence officers and generals to syria. hezbollah, several palestinians groups and even al qaada have met in syria and discussed plans to attack israel and the us troops. Even a month ago from the mouthpiece of iranian general Javili i believe his name was. He said we don’t have to be afraid of israel when we have many fronts in lebanon, palestine, iraq and afghanistan. Even several hezbollah leaders have said if iran was attacked, we will not sit idly by. So if Iran forcing its people to accept the rules of the rulers Khameini and the strong resistance in lebanon following the orders of this rulers..What make you think 10 yrs from now after having to capitulate most of the leaders and weaken sunnis and christians by dividing them as they’re doing now. Even many moderate shiites who have risen against hezbollah. I have not heard them much since over a year now. Everyone is intimidated by them and fearfull of them. What make you think that hezbollah will not decide to implement the rules of they Ayotollah or mullahs of iran totally in lebanon including the waliat al faqih. we’re not afraid of the moderate shiites. But we certainly are afraid of iranian influence over the hezbollah for the long term and having hezbollah do iran biddings in lebanon as they see fit.

Prophet somewhere up there asking Walid about his opinion about Wali Al Faqih and its fear and its not popular or supported in Lebanon. Even its not popular in Lebanon ya Prophet that doesn’t mean it cannot be implemented by force. Many March 14th supporters believe hezbollah and its surrounding supporters believe Iran is an angel sent from heaven. To us there is as much devil as israel okay. Having said that many iranians do not believe in their gov’t and supports it. yet they have subdued the population since the uprising in 1988 when grand Ayatollah Khomeini crushed the revolt against the islamic republic and thousands were killed. As of last year many iranians killed simply because they were protesting the votes. The reason i am going to back to Iran beacuse we March 14th believe that you are following wholeheartdly the nation of iran and its implementing its plans and wills in lebanon and everywhere as of late also iraq. Hezbollah were attacking US troops in Iraq as of late. What are you buddies doing there? Iran has sent several intelligence officers and generals to syria. hezbollah, several palestinians groups and even al qaada have met in syria and discussed plans to attack israel and the us troops. Even a month ago from the mouthpiece of iranian general Javili i believe his name was. He said we don’t have to be afraid of israel when we have many fronts in lebanon, palestine, iraq and afghanistan. Even several hezbollah leaders have said if iran was attacked, we will not sit idly by. So if Iran forcing its people to accept the rules of the rulers Khameini and the strong resistance in lebanon following the orders of this rulers..What make you think 10 yrs from now after having to capitulate most of the leaders and weaken sunnis and christians by dividing them as they’re doing now. Even many moderate shiites who have risen against hezbollah. I have not heard them much since over a year now. Everyone is intimidated by them and fearfull of them. What make you think that hezbollah will not decide to implement the rules of they Ayotollah or mullahs of iran totally in lebanon including the waliat al faqih. we’re not afraid of the moderate shiites. But we certainly are afraid of iranian influence over the hezbollah for the long term and having hezbollah do iran biddings in lebanon as they see fit.

Prophet somewhere up there asking Walid about his opinion about Wali Al Faqih and its fear and its not popular or supported in Lebanon. Even its not popular in Lebanon ya Prophet that doesn’t mean it cannot be implemented by force. Many March 14th supporters believe hezbollah and its surrounding supporters believe Iran is an angel sent from heaven. To us there is as much devil as israel okay. Having said that many iranians do not believe in their gov’t and supports it. yet they have subdued the population since the uprising in 1988 when grand Ayatollah Khomeini crushed the revolt against the islamic republic and thousands were killed. As of last year many iranians killed simply because they were protesting the votes. The reason i am going to back to Iran beacuse we March 14th believe that you are following wholeheartdly the nation of iran and its implementing its plans and wills in lebanon and everywhere as of late also iraq. Hezbollah were attacking US troops in Iraq as of late. What are you buddies doing there? Iran has sent several intelligence officers and generals to syria. hezbollah, several palestinians groups and even al qaada have met in syria and discussed plans to attack israel and the us troops. Even a month ago from the mouthpiece of iranian general Javili i believe his name was. He said we don’t have to be afraid of israel when we have many fronts in lebanon, palestine, iraq and afghanistan. Even several hezbollah leaders have said if iran was attacked, we will not sit idly by. So if Iran forcing its people to accept the rules of the rulers Khameini and the strong resistance in lebanon following the orders of this rulers..What make you think 10 yrs from now after having to capitulate most of the leaders and weaken sunnis and christians by dividing them as they’re doing now. Even many moderate shiites who have risen against hezbollah. I have not heard them much since over a year now. Everyone is intimidated by them and fearfull of them. What make you think that hezbollah will not decide to implement the rules of they Ayotollah or mullahs of iran totally in lebanon including the waliat al faqih. we’re not afraid of the moderate shiites. But we certainly are afraid of iranian influence over the hezbollah for the long term and having hezbollah do iran biddings in lebanon as they see fit.

What a dumbass “pastor”. He’s probably getting these ideas of burning holy books from all the PCPs he’s been swallowing along with his on the go budweiser mini keg.

The evangelical church itself are no different than this pastor in regards to its hate for Islam although they don’t say it out in the open as much.

A pretty sad result from all the CIA inspired brainwashing using these puppet pastors to control the ignorant masses and cause trouble.

What a dumbass “pastor”. He’s probably getting these ideas of burning holy books from all the PCPs he’s been swallowing along with his on the go budweiser mini keg.

The evangelical church itself are no different than this pastor in regards to its hate for Islam although they don’t say it out in the open as much.

A pretty sad result from all the CIA inspired brainwashing using these puppet pastors to control the ignorant masses and cause trouble.

What a dumbass “pastor”. He’s probably getting these ideas of burning holy books from all the PCPs he’s been swallowing along with his on the go budweiser mini keg.

The evangelical church itself are no different than this pastor in regards to its hate for Islam although they don’t say it out in the open as much.

A pretty sad result from all the CIA inspired brainwashing using these puppet pastors to control the ignorant masses and cause trouble.

Here is a good article about Imam Moussa Al Sadr disapperance..
http://www.nowlebanon.com/Sub.aspx?ID=125478

Here is a good article about Imam Moussa Al Sadr disapperance..
http://www.nowlebanon.com/Sub.aspx?ID=125478

Here is a good article about Imam Moussa Al Sadr disapperance..
http://www.nowlebanon.com/Sub.aspx?ID=125478

Prophet lol i posted the same thing in arabic before your post was approved haha thats funny man. Great minds think alike.

Prophet lol i posted the same thing in arabic before your post was approved haha thats funny man. Great minds think alike.

Prophet lol i posted the same thing in arabic before your post was approved haha thats funny man. Great minds think alike.

OK Prophet let’s see if my fellow posters like that:

Wilaayat al-Faqih holds the faith together for Shia Islam pretty much like the Saudi King and Mekka’s clerics are the custodians of Sunni islam.
I do believe it has been politicized and abused by pretty much all other sects. It is and SHOULD be 100% religious entity whose clerics “inherit” the prophets. They are in this role pretty much in charge of the laws among other things and here lays the problem. If they adjudicate in anything pertaining to the law and yet because of the make up of the Lebanese population our next question would be where do we draw the line. I am certain that in Legal and marital disputes the clerics have their say and their say is law and that is A BIG problem for ALL of us because I for one do not want to abide by my church which does not allow divorce and yet my fellow moslems can divorce legally yet I have to change my religion to do so. I believe that one should be able to marry First (legally) in the civil courts that apply to all citizens, and then if one should choose they can take another step and marry in church or under Sharia laws.
Wilaayat al Faqih is nothing to be afraid of because it is the same as the Vatican authority for the Catholics. Get it through your thick heads people and stop regurgitating the same scare tactics. NO ONE RELIGION CAN DOMINATE IN LEBANON. Sooner or later, weapons or not, if one sect decides to boycott the country it will be over for all of us.
Look what happened when the Shia MPs decided to walk out of the government of Siniora. It lost all legitimacy.
Now let’s address the issue of the why are certain group of people or some sects worried about the concept. Well if you read the news all over the middle east you will find that the minorities have been abused and their leaders use those scare tactics to get them to “follow” and never think outside the box. In short they are scared about its meaning and I believe more communication should be able to resolve the fears.
Finally, it is still my belief that the resistance should be the right of everyone and currently it is hijacked by HA as being Islamic (Except for Julia Boutros singing ahiba’i).

OK Prophet let’s see if my fellow posters like that:

Wilaayat al-Faqih holds the faith together for Shia Islam pretty much like the Saudi King and Mekka’s clerics are the custodians of Sunni islam.
I do believe it has been politicized and abused by pretty much all other sects. It is and SHOULD be 100% religious entity whose clerics “inherit” the prophets. They are in this role pretty much in charge of the laws among other things and here lays the problem. If they adjudicate in anything pertaining to the law and yet because of the make up of the Lebanese population our next question would be where do we draw the line. I am certain that in Legal and marital disputes the clerics have their say and their say is law and that is A BIG problem for ALL of us because I for one do not want to abide by my church which does not allow divorce and yet my fellow moslems can divorce legally yet I have to change my religion to do so. I believe that one should be able to marry First (legally) in the civil courts that apply to all citizens, and then if one should choose they can take another step and marry in church or under Sharia laws.
Wilaayat al Faqih is nothing to be afraid of because it is the same as the Vatican authority for the Catholics. Get it through your thick heads people and stop regurgitating the same scare tactics. NO ONE RELIGION CAN DOMINATE IN LEBANON. Sooner or later, weapons or not, if one sect decides to boycott the country it will be over for all of us.
Look what happened when the Shia MPs decided to walk out of the government of Siniora. It lost all legitimacy.
Now let’s address the issue of the why are certain group of people or some sects worried about the concept. Well if you read the news all over the middle east you will find that the minorities have been abused and their leaders use those scare tactics to get them to “follow” and never think outside the box. In short they are scared about its meaning and I believe more communication should be able to resolve the fears.
Finally, it is still my belief that the resistance should be the right of everyone and currently it is hijacked by HA as being Islamic (Except for Julia Boutros singing ahiba’i).

OK Prophet let’s see if my fellow posters like that:

Wilaayat al-Faqih holds the faith together for Shia Islam pretty much like the Saudi King and Mekka’s clerics are the custodians of Sunni islam.
I do believe it has been politicized and abused by pretty much all other sects. It is and SHOULD be 100% religious entity whose clerics “inherit” the prophets. They are in this role pretty much in charge of the laws among other things and here lays the problem. If they adjudicate in anything pertaining to the law and yet because of the make up of the Lebanese population our next question would be where do we draw the line. I am certain that in Legal and marital disputes the clerics have their say and their say is law and that is A BIG problem for ALL of us because I for one do not want to abide by my church which does not allow divorce and yet my fellow moslems can divorce legally yet I have to change my religion to do so. I believe that one should be able to marry First (legally) in the civil courts that apply to all citizens, and then if one should choose they can take another step and marry in church or under Sharia laws.
Wilaayat al Faqih is nothing to be afraid of because it is the same as the Vatican authority for the Catholics. Get it through your thick heads people and stop regurgitating the same scare tactics. NO ONE RELIGION CAN DOMINATE IN LEBANON. Sooner or later, weapons or not, if one sect decides to boycott the country it will be over for all of us.
Look what happened when the Shia MPs decided to walk out of the government of Siniora. It lost all legitimacy.
Now let’s address the issue of the why are certain group of people or some sects worried about the concept. Well if you read the news all over the middle east you will find that the minorities have been abused and their leaders use those scare tactics to get them to “follow” and never think outside the box. In short they are scared about its meaning and I believe more communication should be able to resolve the fears.
Finally, it is still my belief that the resistance should be the right of everyone and currently it is hijacked by HA as being Islamic (Except for Julia Boutros singing ahiba’i).

this guy is only looking for some attention religion is like a mirrore to your heart you are attaking each other like no tommorrow and you thing we will have a peacefull country iam glad thats all of you are out of lebanon and stay where you are peace for all

this guy is only looking for some attention religion is like a mirrore to your heart you are attaking each other like no tommorrow and you thing we will have a peacefull country iam glad thats all of you are out of lebanon and stay where you are peace for all

this guy is only looking for some attention religion is like a mirrore to your heart you are attaking each other like no tommorrow and you thing we will have a peacefull country iam glad thats all of you are out of lebanon and stay where you are peace for all

While on the topic listen to this… Hilarious!
Freedom of Religion!!! LOL… What if I want to celebrate EVERYDAY! in Malaysia apparently you can’t:

Malaysian religious officials said Thursday they had detained and fined nine members of an Islamic sect for celebrating the Eid al-Fitr holiday two days early, AFP reported.

The Eid festival, marking the end of the fasting month of Ramadan, has been declared on Friday for most parts of the world including Malaysia, but members of Jamiah Al-Zikri Awwalun were caught already celebrating on Wednesday.

He said that religious authorities released the group members after they paid a fine.

While on the topic listen to this… Hilarious!
Freedom of Religion!!! LOL… What if I want to celebrate EVERYDAY! in Malaysia apparently you can’t:

Malaysian religious officials said Thursday they had detained and fined nine members of an Islamic sect for celebrating the Eid al-Fitr holiday two days early, AFP reported.

The Eid festival, marking the end of the fasting month of Ramadan, has been declared on Friday for most parts of the world including Malaysia, but members of Jamiah Al-Zikri Awwalun were caught already celebrating on Wednesday.

He said that religious authorities released the group members after they paid a fine.

While on the topic listen to this… Hilarious!
Freedom of Religion!!! LOL… What if I want to celebrate EVERYDAY! in Malaysia apparently you can’t:

Malaysian religious officials said Thursday they had detained and fined nine members of an Islamic sect for celebrating the Eid al-Fitr holiday two days early, AFP reported.

The Eid festival, marking the end of the fasting month of Ramadan, has been declared on Friday for most parts of the world including Malaysia, but members of Jamiah Al-Zikri Awwalun were caught already celebrating on Wednesday.

He said that religious authorities released the group members after they paid a fine.

you can’t mess with the symbol of religion, what Iran is doing with Christ movie, depciting the Chrsit as th Moselm see it, give the same right to Chrsitian to portray the prohet as theys ee it too, burning the Koran is a statement that people view the Koran as a Satanic religion, they have full right to express their view as the same in Saudi Arabia on 60 minutes call the Chrsitians Keffar, are you allowed to hold the bible in your hand in Saudi Arabia and walk on the street, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,but can walk with the Koran anywhere in Europe, is about time to the Moslem world to learn tolerance and growp from their so called the best religion ever that go give !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you can’t mess with the symbol of religion, what Iran is doing with Christ movie, depciting the Chrsit as th Moselm see it, give the same right to Chrsitian to portray the prohet as theys ee it too, burning the Koran is a statement that people view the Koran as a Satanic religion, they have full right to express their view as the same in Saudi Arabia on 60 minutes call the Chrsitians Keffar, are you allowed to hold the bible in your hand in Saudi Arabia and walk on the street, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,but can walk with the Koran anywhere in Europe, is about time to the Moslem world to learn tolerance and growp from their so called the best religion ever that go give !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you can’t mess with the symbol of religion, what Iran is doing with Christ movie, depciting the Chrsit as th Moselm see it, give the same right to Chrsitian to portray the prohet as theys ee it too, burning the Koran is a statement that people view the Koran as a Satanic religion, they have full right to express their view as the same in Saudi Arabia on 60 minutes call the Chrsitians Keffar, are you allowed to hold the bible in your hand in Saudi Arabia and walk on the street, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO,but can walk with the Koran anywhere in Europe, is about time to the Moslem world to learn tolerance and growp from their so called the best religion ever that go give !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Guss
We stopped it from airing in lebanon didn’t we? That is a start.
COMMUNICATE!

Guss
We stopped it from airing in lebanon didn’t we? That is a start.
COMMUNICATE!

Guss
We stopped it from airing in lebanon didn’t we? That is a start.
COMMUNICATE!

Constantin, just to correct you, prior to the american invasion of iraq, christians were able to very freely practice christianity and were happy living there. it is because of what the americans did, that radicalism infiltrated iraq and a part of them were forced to leave (this comes from accounts of iraqis that I have met)

In Iran, there are synagogues, churches and mosques. we may not like their islamic govt and their crossing of state and religion, but most of iranians feel the same way.
the point being, that even muslim iranians in general would rather leave and live in the west…
but you would be surprised to find out that jews have the right to leave and go to israel but refuse to do so.
they have seats in the parliament, etc.

so your generalization is inaccurate and unfair.

I remember hearing these americans on cnn screaming that when iran will allow synagogues in tehran then the mosque should be build on ground zero. the reporter then told her that there are 16 of them already in tehran!

another thing, yesterday they were talking about this nut job burning the Koran and this indonesian woman was interviewed and said that christians and muslims have lived side by side in indonesia with no problems for years, until this whole islamophobia and “war on terror” was declared and then radicalism starting rising. so you need to look thoroughly who to point your finger at and who is really to blame for all of this.

Constantin, just to correct you, prior to the american invasion of iraq, christians were able to very freely practice christianity and were happy living there. it is because of what the americans did, that radicalism infiltrated iraq and a part of them were forced to leave (this comes from accounts of iraqis that I have met)

In Iran, there are synagogues, churches and mosques. we may not like their islamic govt and their crossing of state and religion, but most of iranians feel the same way.
the point being, that even muslim iranians in general would rather leave and live in the west…
but you would be surprised to find out that jews have the right to leave and go to israel but refuse to do so.
they have seats in the parliament, etc.

so your generalization is inaccurate and unfair.

I remember hearing these americans on cnn screaming that when iran will allow synagogues in tehran then the mosque should be build on ground zero. the reporter then told her that there are 16 of them already in tehran!

another thing, yesterday they were talking about this nut job burning the Koran and this indonesian woman was interviewed and said that christians and muslims have lived side by side in indonesia with no problems for years, until this whole islamophobia and “war on terror” was declared and then radicalism starting rising. so you need to look thoroughly who to point your finger at and who is really to blame for all of this.

Constantin, just to correct you, prior to the american invasion of iraq, christians were able to very freely practice christianity and were happy living there. it is because of what the americans did, that radicalism infiltrated iraq and a part of them were forced to leave (this comes from accounts of iraqis that I have met)

In Iran, there are synagogues, churches and mosques. we may not like their islamic govt and their crossing of state and religion, but most of iranians feel the same way.
the point being, that even muslim iranians in general would rather leave and live in the west…
but you would be surprised to find out that jews have the right to leave and go to israel but refuse to do so.
they have seats in the parliament, etc.

so your generalization is inaccurate and unfair.

I remember hearing these americans on cnn screaming that when iran will allow synagogues in tehran then the mosque should be build on ground zero. the reporter then told her that there are 16 of them already in tehran!

another thing, yesterday they were talking about this nut job burning the Koran and this indonesian woman was interviewed and said that christians and muslims have lived side by side in indonesia with no problems for years, until this whole islamophobia and “war on terror” was declared and then radicalism starting rising. so you need to look thoroughly who to point your finger at and who is really to blame for all of this.

Moustapha,
Do you agree then that since the majority of people voted against the minaret in Switzerland that this act became law and that the minaret became outlawed and that moslems should respect that?
Also, living in a compound is a condescending idea for me as it is. Nothing to be proud of. What if the West decides that you wear the hijab ONLY inside of a compound. Outside you take it off mandatory. Then this becomes aggression for moslems but forcing women to wear hijab outside the compound in Saudi Arabia you say is not an act of aggression?
Come on man you and I know that conservative Islam or conservative ANYTHING sucks. People should free the world of those fanatic idiots NOT give them excuses.
But I am still for grabs for $200 / month I will wear the hijab, hell I will wear ANYTHING including the burka… LOL

Moustapha,
Do you agree then that since the majority of people voted against the minaret in Switzerland that this act became law and that the minaret became outlawed and that moslems should respect that?
Also, living in a compound is a condescending idea for me as it is. Nothing to be proud of. What if the West decides that you wear the hijab ONLY inside of a compound. Outside you take it off mandatory. Then this becomes aggression for moslems but forcing women to wear hijab outside the compound in Saudi Arabia you say is not an act of aggression?
Come on man you and I know that conservative Islam or conservative ANYTHING sucks. People should free the world of those fanatic idiots NOT give them excuses.
But I am still for grabs for $200 / month I will wear the hijab, hell I will wear ANYTHING including the burka… LOL

Moustapha,
Do you agree then that since the majority of people voted against the minaret in Switzerland that this act became law and that the minaret became outlawed and that moslems should respect that?
Also, living in a compound is a condescending idea for me as it is. Nothing to be proud of. What if the West decides that you wear the hijab ONLY inside of a compound. Outside you take it off mandatory. Then this becomes aggression for moslems but forcing women to wear hijab outside the compound in Saudi Arabia you say is not an act of aggression?
Come on man you and I know that conservative Islam or conservative ANYTHING sucks. People should free the world of those fanatic idiots NOT give them excuses.
But I am still for grabs for $200 / month I will wear the hijab, hell I will wear ANYTHING including the burka… LOL

Walid,
Thank you for your response.
I can’t agree enough with everything you said.
I would only add few things to make the picture even clearer.
The concept of Wilayat Al Faqieh itself is not in dispute among Shiaa scholars as a concept, but the question of qualification of who can hold such authority is. Most scholors, including the late fadlalah, Sistani,Al khoei,Shamsedine, and the majority of Iranian scholars believe that No one person ,regardless of how knowledgeable he is, can be holy enough to hold such authority, EXCEPT for the 11 Imams that preceded the prophet. That leaves the 12th Imam (Imam Almahdi) as the only qualified person to hold such title. So in reality No one is holy enough to be a supreme leader.
To the surprise of many people, even Khomeini, didn’t fully exercise this authority. The only person to do what was Khaminai.
Kaminai merged the title of marja’a taqleed, with the Supreme leader.
The role of a marja’a taqleed is solely a juridical authority to which the Muslim (Siiaa Muslims) community may refer to in the case of religious questions and commandments concerning the practical side of Islam.

Support of this concept in Lebanon, is strictly among HA members, and their family only. The greatest majority of HA followers, and supporters do not support this theory, and therefore would never follow it. So there is a distinction between HA members on one hand, and the followers and supporters on the other hand, when it comes to this issue. The greatest majority of Lebanese Shiia does not believe in wilayat al Faqieh, though many of them may support HA politically.
So the fear is not justified because there is no realistic condition that would allow this concept to be implemented in Lebanon.

Walid,
Thank you for your response.
I can’t agree enough with everything you said.
I would only add few things to make the picture even clearer.
The concept of Wilayat Al Faqieh itself is not in dispute among Shiaa scholars as a concept, but the question of qualification of who can hold such authority is. Most scholors, including the late fadlalah, Sistani,Al khoei,Shamsedine, and the majority of Iranian scholars believe that No one person ,regardless of how knowledgeable he is, can be holy enough to hold such authority, EXCEPT for the 11 Imams that preceded the prophet. That leaves the 12th Imam (Imam Almahdi) as the only qualified person to hold such title. So in reality No one is holy enough to be a supreme leader.
To the surprise of many people, even Khomeini, didn’t fully exercise this authority. The only person to do what was Khaminai.
Kaminai merged the title of marja’a taqleed, with the Supreme leader.
The role of a marja’a taqleed is solely a juridical authority to which the Muslim (Siiaa Muslims) community may refer to in the case of religious questions and commandments concerning the practical side of Islam.

Support of this concept in Lebanon, is strictly among HA members, and their family only. The greatest majority of HA followers, and supporters do not support this theory, and therefore would never follow it. So there is a distinction between HA members on one hand, and the followers and supporters on the other hand, when it comes to this issue. The greatest majority of Lebanese Shiia does not believe in wilayat al Faqieh, though many of them may support HA politically.
So the fear is not justified because there is no realistic condition that would allow this concept to be implemented in Lebanon.

Walid,
Thank you for your response.
I can’t agree enough with everything you said.
I would only add few things to make the picture even clearer.
The concept of Wilayat Al Faqieh itself is not in dispute among Shiaa scholars as a concept, but the question of qualification of who can hold such authority is. Most scholors, including the late fadlalah, Sistani,Al khoei,Shamsedine, and the majority of Iranian scholars believe that No one person ,regardless of how knowledgeable he is, can be holy enough to hold such authority, EXCEPT for the 11 Imams that preceded the prophet. That leaves the 12th Imam (Imam Almahdi) as the only qualified person to hold such title. So in reality No one is holy enough to be a supreme leader.
To the surprise of many people, even Khomeini, didn’t fully exercise this authority. The only person to do what was Khaminai.
Kaminai merged the title of marja’a taqleed, with the Supreme leader.
The role of a marja’a taqleed is solely a juridical authority to which the Muslim (Siiaa Muslims) community may refer to in the case of religious questions and commandments concerning the practical side of Islam.

Support of this concept in Lebanon, is strictly among HA members, and their family only. The greatest majority of HA followers, and supporters do not support this theory, and therefore would never follow it. So there is a distinction between HA members on one hand, and the followers and supporters on the other hand, when it comes to this issue. The greatest majority of Lebanese Shiia does not believe in wilayat al Faqieh, though many of them may support HA politically.
So the fear is not justified because there is no realistic condition that would allow this concept to be implemented in Lebanon.

wlek ya prophet why are you wasting your time?

they hear it from the horse’s mouth and they dont wanna beleive it.

just read Abou Daoud, the israeli imposter here and you see how many of the people here really should leave lebanon and move to israel because they are buying into the scare tactics and BS that Israel is trying to spread, through its spies in Lebanon.

the sad part is they cant see further than their nose filled with hatred for the other side. zero objectivity.

wlek ya prophet why are you wasting your time?

they hear it from the horse’s mouth and they dont wanna beleive it.

just read Abou Daoud, the israeli imposter here and you see how many of the people here really should leave lebanon and move to israel because they are buying into the scare tactics and BS that Israel is trying to spread, through its spies in Lebanon.

the sad part is they cant see further than their nose filled with hatred for the other side. zero objectivity.

wlek ya prophet why are you wasting your time?

they hear it from the horse’s mouth and they dont wanna beleive it.

just read Abou Daoud, the israeli imposter here and you see how many of the people here really should leave lebanon and move to israel because they are buying into the scare tactics and BS that Israel is trying to spread, through its spies in Lebanon.

the sad part is they cant see further than their nose filled with hatred for the other side. zero objectivity.

i guess you are totally blind or I don’t know you affiliation, or you must have full hate to west my guess , but none of you dare to comment why a christian have no right to hold a bible in Saudi arabia and why in the Danemark the cartoon of the prophet made s out roar that some moslem Lebanse ganag went to ahrafieh holding knives and want to burn a church, and why 15000000 copts thwy have no MP or a minister to represent them , and why when a Church is burned in Pakistan with the people in it didn’t trigger the Christian worl to go and burn mosque, could a man between you if you qualify to be a man dare to answer me , could you answer why 7 doctors and nurses and aid worker weer slaughtered by knives 5 weeks ago in the excuse that they were preaching Christianity while in fact they weer aid workers . If you are blind or coward just say it,if you are moslem hiding in christian names you are a coward and hypocrite not answer me, why no moslem religious leader came on TB and denied that there is no 70 virgins if you commit suicide, could any one show me a scholar moslem who denied that.!!!!! you are a joke in this forum not real people you are fake!!!!!!!!!!!

i guess you are totally blind or I don’t know you affiliation, or you must have full hate to west my guess , but none of you dare to comment why a christian have no right to hold a bible in Saudi arabia and why in the Danemark the cartoon of the prophet made s out roar that some moslem Lebanse ganag went to ahrafieh holding knives and want to burn a church, and why 15000000 copts thwy have no MP or a minister to represent them , and why when a Church is burned in Pakistan with the people in it didn’t trigger the Christian worl to go and burn mosque, could a man between you if you qualify to be a man dare to answer me , could you answer why 7 doctors and nurses and aid worker weer slaughtered by knives 5 weeks ago in the excuse that they were preaching Christianity while in fact they weer aid workers . If you are blind or coward just say it,if you are moslem hiding in christian names you are a coward and hypocrite not answer me, why no moslem religious leader came on TB and denied that there is no 70 virgins if you commit suicide, could any one show me a scholar moslem who denied that.!!!!! you are a joke in this forum not real people you are fake!!!!!!!!!!!

i guess you are totally blind or I don’t know you affiliation, or you must have full hate to west my guess , but none of you dare to comment why a christian have no right to hold a bible in Saudi arabia and why in the Danemark the cartoon of the prophet made s out roar that some moslem Lebanse ganag went to ahrafieh holding knives and want to burn a church, and why 15000000 copts thwy have no MP or a minister to represent them , and why when a Church is burned in Pakistan with the people in it didn’t trigger the Christian worl to go and burn mosque, could a man between you if you qualify to be a man dare to answer me , could you answer why 7 doctors and nurses and aid worker weer slaughtered by knives 5 weeks ago in the excuse that they were preaching Christianity while in fact they weer aid workers . If you are blind or coward just say it,if you are moslem hiding in christian names you are a coward and hypocrite not answer me, why no moslem religious leader came on TB and denied that there is no 70 virgins if you commit suicide, could any one show me a scholar moslem who denied that.!!!!! you are a joke in this forum not real people you are fake!!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus won his followers by spreading a message of peace.
Do you think the crusaders accomplished anything by using the sword? NO
Christianity spread because of peace NOT the sword.
Tell me of ONE moslem and HOW MUCH EXTREMIST he can be who would have dared throw a flower at Theresa of Calcutta YET shoes were thrown in the face of George Bush.
So do you condemn an entire religion because of a few fanatics? and do you believe an eye for an eye works?
Go ahead try it. Get yourself a plane and crash it in Mecca and let’s see if you would solve anything.

Jesus won his followers by spreading a message of peace.
Do you think the crusaders accomplished anything by using the sword? NO
Christianity spread because of peace NOT the sword.
Tell me of ONE moslem and HOW MUCH EXTREMIST he can be who would have dared throw a flower at Theresa of Calcutta YET shoes were thrown in the face of George Bush.
So do you condemn an entire religion because of a few fanatics? and do you believe an eye for an eye works?
Go ahead try it. Get yourself a plane and crash it in Mecca and let’s see if you would solve anything.

Jesus won his followers by spreading a message of peace.
Do you think the crusaders accomplished anything by using the sword? NO
Christianity spread because of peace NOT the sword.
Tell me of ONE moslem and HOW MUCH EXTREMIST he can be who would have dared throw a flower at Theresa of Calcutta YET shoes were thrown in the face of George Bush.
So do you condemn an entire religion because of a few fanatics? and do you believe an eye for an eye works?
Go ahead try it. Get yourself a plane and crash it in Mecca and let’s see if you would solve anything.

Guss, everything you talked about is generalizing an entire religion for a few (estimates are about 3-5%) of fanatics?

at those demonstrations against the cartoons, did you knwo that there were also very peaceful muslims who went to protest AGAINST the backlash it created (such as the burning of churches or the killing of nuns in africa) but no media covers that, and thus you only hear about fanatics and not their counter parts.

Saudi arabia is saudi arabia, many muslims criticize it and dont agree with their regime and like Mustapha had mentionned, it is the royal family who is charge and the people dont get to elect anyone so you cant say the govt is representative of its people…. PLUS you seem to forget that 99% of its population is muslim sunni so its not like there are saudi christians who are denied their rights.

why dont you talk about the other arab countries where christians do get to practice freely their religion, or at least used to before the US butted in (iraq, iran, syria, and even egypt)

those aid workers you’re talking about were killed by the TALIBANS you compare fellow muslim lebanese like prophet and mustapha to those retarded barbaric, living in the stone age people? really? generalizing much?

Guss this pastor is acting the same way that muslim extremists would so how is he any better?

when they wanted to burn a church in ashrafieh, muslim clerics came out and called for restraint and condemned it, so sure there are alwyas gonna be nuts in every religion but that doesnt mean that they are like that…

and in my opinion that danish cartoonist acted like a moron because this is not freedom of speech when you insult someone else’s religion. How come in europe, holocaust denial is a crime whereas armenian genocide denial is acceptable?

how come when Iran publishes cartoons about jews with the stereotyping (hooked noses, love for money, etc) the whole world calls them anti-semites. what about freedom of speech mr.Guss?

Guss, everything you talked about is generalizing an entire religion for a few (estimates are about 3-5%) of fanatics?

at those demonstrations against the cartoons, did you knwo that there were also very peaceful muslims who went to protest AGAINST the backlash it created (such as the burning of churches or the killing of nuns in africa) but no media covers that, and thus you only hear about fanatics and not their counter parts.

Saudi arabia is saudi arabia, many muslims criticize it and dont agree with their regime and like Mustapha had mentionned, it is the royal family who is charge and the people dont get to elect anyone so you cant say the govt is representative of its people…. PLUS you seem to forget that 99% of its population is muslim sunni so its not like there are saudi christians who are denied their rights.

why dont you talk about the other arab countries where christians do get to practice freely their religion, or at least used to before the US butted in (iraq, iran, syria, and even egypt)

those aid workers you’re talking about were killed by the TALIBANS you compare fellow muslim lebanese like prophet and mustapha to those retarded barbaric, living in the stone age people? really? generalizing much?

Guss this pastor is acting the same way that muslim extremists would so how is he any better?

when they wanted to burn a church in ashrafieh, muslim clerics came out and called for restraint and condemned it, so sure there are alwyas gonna be nuts in every religion but that doesnt mean that they are like that…

and in my opinion that danish cartoonist acted like a moron because this is not freedom of speech when you insult someone else’s religion. How come in europe, holocaust denial is a crime whereas armenian genocide denial is acceptable?

how come when Iran publishes cartoons about jews with the stereotyping (hooked noses, love for money, etc) the whole world calls them anti-semites. what about freedom of speech mr.Guss?

Guss, everything you talked about is generalizing an entire religion for a few (estimates are about 3-5%) of fanatics?

at those demonstrations against the cartoons, did you knwo that there were also very peaceful muslims who went to protest AGAINST the backlash it created (such as the burning of churches or the killing of nuns in africa) but no media covers that, and thus you only hear about fanatics and not their counter parts.

Saudi arabia is saudi arabia, many muslims criticize it and dont agree with their regime and like Mustapha had mentionned, it is the royal family who is charge and the people dont get to elect anyone so you cant say the govt is representative of its people…. PLUS you seem to forget that 99% of its population is muslim sunni so its not like there are saudi christians who are denied their rights.

why dont you talk about the other arab countries where christians do get to practice freely their religion, or at least used to before the US butted in (iraq, iran, syria, and even egypt)

those aid workers you’re talking about were killed by the TALIBANS you compare fellow muslim lebanese like prophet and mustapha to those retarded barbaric, living in the stone age people? really? generalizing much?

Guss this pastor is acting the same way that muslim extremists would so how is he any better?

when they wanted to burn a church in ashrafieh, muslim clerics came out and called for restraint and condemned it, so sure there are alwyas gonna be nuts in every religion but that doesnt mean that they are like that…

and in my opinion that danish cartoonist acted like a moron because this is not freedom of speech when you insult someone else’s religion. How come in europe, holocaust denial is a crime whereas armenian genocide denial is acceptable?

how come when Iran publishes cartoons about jews with the stereotyping (hooked noses, love for money, etc) the whole world calls them anti-semites. what about freedom of speech mr.Guss?

George,
I have to insist that your paranoia is blocking you mind to the point of dangerously self defeating.
The idea that HA or would impose Wilayat alfakieh on Lebanese is unrealistic for many reasons. The support of Wialyat alfaqieh among Lebanese Shiia consist only on HA members and their immediate families. The greatest majority of HA followers and supporters do not believe in it, and won’t supported it.
HA can not and will not be able to force Wilayat al faqieh on Lebanon, because they can’t force it on their fellow Shiia. So your fear is not justified at all. The shiaa of Lebanon are different historically, culturally, and intellectually from the Iranians.
HA Swims in a supportive environment, and would easily suffocate if this environment is to be forced into something as important as this.
I’m not here to defend the Iranian regime, nor am I here to Condon the way Iranian police dealt with the protesters. I realize that Iran has its own problems. I don’t underestimate those problems either.
Although the opposition was crushed by Iranian authorities, they never won the election. They were protesting the concept of wilayat al faqieh.The support of wialayt al faqieh is wearing thin.
But I have to remind you that the supreme leader is elected by a special counsel, and still have a thin majority. Technically speaking, you can’t even say that it is being forced on Iranians yet.
That being said, the concept of wilayat al faqieh is, and will be the most important problem to deal with, especially when Khaminai dies. My humble knowledge tells me that unless they resolve this question (Wilayat Al Faqieh), they’ll have bigger problems.

George,
I have to insist that your paranoia is blocking you mind to the point of dangerously self defeating.
The idea that HA or would impose Wilayat alfakieh on Lebanese is unrealistic for many reasons. The support of Wialyat alfaqieh among Lebanese Shiia consist only on HA members and their immediate families. The greatest majority of HA followers and supporters do not believe in it, and won’t supported it.
HA can not and will not be able to force Wilayat al faqieh on Lebanon, because they can’t force it on their fellow Shiia. So your fear is not justified at all. The shiaa of Lebanon are different historically, culturally, and intellectually from the Iranians.
HA Swims in a supportive environment, and would easily suffocate if this environment is to be forced into something as important as this.
I’m not here to defend the Iranian regime, nor am I here to Condon the way Iranian police dealt with the protesters. I realize that Iran has its own problems. I don’t underestimate those problems either.
Although the opposition was crushed by Iranian authorities, they never won the election. They were protesting the concept of wilayat al faqieh.The support of wialayt al faqieh is wearing thin.
But I have to remind you that the supreme leader is elected by a special counsel, and still have a thin majority. Technically speaking, you can’t even say that it is being forced on Iranians yet.
That being said, the concept of wilayat al faqieh is, and will be the most important problem to deal with, especially when Khaminai dies. My humble knowledge tells me that unless they resolve this question (Wilayat Al Faqieh), they’ll have bigger problems.

George,
I have to insist that your paranoia is blocking you mind to the point of dangerously self defeating.
The idea that HA or would impose Wilayat alfakieh on Lebanese is unrealistic for many reasons. The support of Wialyat alfaqieh among Lebanese Shiia consist only on HA members and their immediate families. The greatest majority of HA followers and supporters do not believe in it, and won’t supported it.
HA can not and will not be able to force Wilayat al faqieh on Lebanon, because they can’t force it on their fellow Shiia. So your fear is not justified at all. The shiaa of Lebanon are different historically, culturally, and intellectually from the Iranians.
HA Swims in a supportive environment, and would easily suffocate if this environment is to be forced into something as important as this.
I’m not here to defend the Iranian regime, nor am I here to Condon the way Iranian police dealt with the protesters. I realize that Iran has its own problems. I don’t underestimate those problems either.
Although the opposition was crushed by Iranian authorities, they never won the election. They were protesting the concept of wilayat al faqieh.The support of wialayt al faqieh is wearing thin.
But I have to remind you that the supreme leader is elected by a special counsel, and still have a thin majority. Technically speaking, you can’t even say that it is being forced on Iranians yet.
That being said, the concept of wilayat al faqieh is, and will be the most important problem to deal with, especially when Khaminai dies. My humble knowledge tells me that unless they resolve this question (Wilayat Al Faqieh), they’ll have bigger problems.

Phophet and Walid this debate about Wilayat Al Faqieh, is irrelevant. Because when you say walid <>

I agree to a certain point. Ha is not looking to impose their religious view I agree the condition are not playing in their favor.

The issue here is not religious but more political. HA has the capacity to impose a veto on the politics of the gouverment. How because they have the military expertise…

So if no one religion could be impose one political view could certainly be influence forcefully to other sect, just by the mere fact of being a potential target. The best example of this could be Jumblatt and is 360 degree shift… And their political view stem from their religious conviction. This why other sect fear them …

Peace

Phophet and Walid this debate about Wilayat Al Faqieh, is irrelevant. Because when you say walid <>

I agree to a certain point. Ha is not looking to impose their religious view I agree the condition are not playing in their favor.

The issue here is not religious but more political. HA has the capacity to impose a veto on the politics of the gouverment. How because they have the military expertise…

So if no one religion could be impose one political view could certainly be influence forcefully to other sect, just by the mere fact of being a potential target. The best example of this could be Jumblatt and is 360 degree shift… And their political view stem from their religious conviction. This why other sect fear them …

Peace

walid when you say NO ONE RELIGION CAN DOMINATE IN LEBANON

walid when you say NO ONE RELIGION CAN DOMINATE IN LEBANON

Joey, shut up. Im surprised your not using this opportunity to spew your vemon about islam, like you have before. Trashbag.

Joey, shut up. Im surprised your not using this opportunity to spew your vemon about islam, like you have before. Trashbag.

Joey, shut up. Im surprised your not using this opportunity to spew your vemon about islam, like you have before. Trashbag.

“Hezbollah were attacking US troops in Iraq as of late. What are you buddies doing there?”

Huh??

George, seriously, where do you get your info from??

if this were true, it would have been blasted all over the news!!!

“Hezbollah were attacking US troops in Iraq as of late. What are you buddies doing there?”

Huh??

George, seriously, where do you get your info from??

if this were true, it would have been blasted all over the news!!!

“Hezbollah were attacking US troops in Iraq as of late. What are you buddies doing there?”

Huh??

George, seriously, where do you get your info from??

if this were true, it would have been blasted all over the news!!!

HEY GUSS? WHATS WRONG? WHERES YOUR REPLY? I GAVE YOU THE EVIDENCE YOU WANTED? I GUESS YOU JUST CONVENIENTLY DISSAPPEAR NOW? COWARD!

HEY GUSS? WHATS WRONG? WHERES YOUR REPLY? I GAVE YOU THE EVIDENCE YOU WANTED? I GUESS YOU JUST CONVENIENTLY DISSAPPEAR NOW? COWARD!

HEY GUSS? WHATS WRONG? WHERES YOUR REPLY? I GAVE YOU THE EVIDENCE YOU WANTED? I GUESS YOU JUST CONVENIENTLY DISSAPPEAR NOW? COWARD!

Walid,

For your first question. Simply i answer yes, the Muslims should respect that law since it is the law of that country.

On the other hand… I say the swiss have to be open with their countries true image which is to be bi-est against Muslims just as the Saudis are biased against anyone not Muslim. Cause then you are lying to every one saying you are a country that separates church and state and have freedom of religion, and are a neutral country.. yet you act in such a way which is deceiving. Where as the Saudis all out say it, if you come to Saudi you have to deal with our bullshit. Simple. Again it doesn’t mean i agree with their practices and perspective, cause personally, I highly disagree with them.

You might find living in a compound condescending but where ever you go in the US.. living in a gated compound means you have money and living large ( i want to add.. eating shrimp and drinking champaign hehe.. ). Cause usually they are beautiful facilities for neighbors to safely interact with each other without worrying about strangers. And they have sports facilities and recreational facilities. And so the Saudi Gov. take that into consideration so they make their compounds 10 times nicer then they should since they still want the foreigner to come and work while not having to compromise what they want to force outside the gates of the compound.

For the other point you were trying to make… if the west forces their people to wear hijab inside of the compounds i think both Muslim and non-Muslim westerners will not like that but then again they would have chosen it because in the west they supposedly have a democracy and not a forced king ship so I guess thats what the people of the west would want then i guess it will happen.

With regards to the Hijab and i will add on the driving laws..
I believe it is an act of aggression to force women to wear hijab and not drive, and i believe it goes against Islam to force people to believe or practice because the niyah is the most important thing, and if the person doesn’t have that then there is no point to force him/her into doing so. but i am not Saudi. If the Saudi’s believe it is an act of aggression then they should do something about it and change it. Until then it seems like they choose that for themselves and I have no right to decide what they want to do on their own land.

Yet.. you see that their are big changes taking place. For the first time ever in Jedda they opened a market where women are working on the cashier registries.

Lastly, conservative Islam or fundamental Islam does not suck, nor does conservative Christianity or fundamental Christianity suck. Allow me to correct you and be more clear…It is EXTREME of either conservatism or liberalism in any religion that SUCKS. EXTREMES are the problems we have. You can be conservative without having to force people and impose on them your will. But if you are extreme you would impose either conservatism or liberalism to an extreme.

As a side note.. if people were to practice the fundamentals of their religion, be it any religion, we wont have hate,crime, poverty and wars.

So yes WE SHOULD rid ourselves of all those FANATICS and EXTREMISTS because they are the cancer of our society.

Man i LAUGHED SO HARD when you made that lat comment earlier.. Ta2ta2o khwasreh! =)

Walid,

For your first question. Simply i answer yes, the Muslims should respect that law since it is the law of that country.

On the other hand… I say the swiss have to be open with their countries true image which is to be bi-est against Muslims just as the Saudis are biased against anyone not Muslim. Cause then you are lying to every one saying you are a country that separates church and state and have freedom of religion, and are a neutral country.. yet you act in such a way which is deceiving. Where as the Saudis all out say it, if you come to Saudi you have to deal with our bullshit. Simple. Again it doesn’t mean i agree with their practices and perspective, cause personally, I highly disagree with them.

You might find living in a compound condescending but where ever you go in the US.. living in a gated compound means you have money and living large ( i want to add.. eating shrimp and drinking champaign hehe.. ). Cause usually they are beautiful facilities for neighbors to safely interact with each other without worrying about strangers. And they have sports facilities and recreational facilities. And so the Saudi Gov. take that into consideration so they make their compounds 10 times nicer then they should since they still want the foreigner to come and work while not having to compromise what they want to force outside the gates of the compound.

For the other point you were trying to make… if the west forces their people to wear hijab inside of the compounds i think both Muslim and non-Muslim westerners will not like that but then again they would have chosen it because in the west they supposedly have a democracy and not a forced king ship so I guess thats what the people of the west would want then i guess it will happen.

With regards to the Hijab and i will add on the driving laws..
I believe it is an act of aggression to force women to wear hijab and not drive, and i believe it goes against Islam to force people to believe or practice because the niyah is the most important thing, and if the person doesn’t have that then there is no point to force him/her into doing so. but i am not Saudi. If the Saudi’s believe it is an act of aggression then they should do something about it and change it. Until then it seems like they choose that for themselves and I have no right to decide what they want to do on their own land.

Yet.. you see that their are big changes taking place. For the first time ever in Jedda they opened a market where women are working on the cashier registries.

Lastly, conservative Islam or fundamental Islam does not suck, nor does conservative Christianity or fundamental Christianity suck. Allow me to correct you and be more clear…It is EXTREME of either conservatism or liberalism in any religion that SUCKS. EXTREMES are the problems we have. You can be conservative without having to force people and impose on them your will. But if you are extreme you would impose either conservatism or liberalism to an extreme.

As a side note.. if people were to practice the fundamentals of their religion, be it any religion, we wont have hate,crime, poverty and wars.

So yes WE SHOULD rid ourselves of all those FANATICS and EXTREMISTS because they are the cancer of our society.

Man i LAUGHED SO HARD when you made that lat comment earlier.. Ta2ta2o khwasreh! =)

Walid,

For your first question. Simply i answer yes, the Muslims should respect that law since it is the law of that country.

On the other hand… I say the swiss have to be open with their countries true image which is to be bi-est against Muslims just as the Saudis are biased against anyone not Muslim. Cause then you are lying to every one saying you are a country that separates church and state and have freedom of religion, and are a neutral country.. yet you act in such a way which is deceiving. Where as the Saudis all out say it, if you come to Saudi you have to deal with our bullshit. Simple. Again it doesn’t mean i agree with their practices and perspective, cause personally, I highly disagree with them.

You might find living in a compound condescending but where ever you go in the US.. living in a gated compound means you have money and living large ( i want to add.. eating shrimp and drinking champaign hehe.. ). Cause usually they are beautiful facilities for neighbors to safely interact with each other without worrying about strangers. And they have sports facilities and recreational facilities. And so the Saudi Gov. take that into consideration so they make their compounds 10 times nicer then they should since they still want the foreigner to come and work while not having to compromise what they want to force outside the gates of the compound.

For the other point you were trying to make… if the west forces their people to wear hijab inside of the compounds i think both Muslim and non-Muslim westerners will not like that but then again they would have chosen it because in the west they supposedly have a democracy and not a forced king ship so I guess thats what the people of the west would want then i guess it will happen.

With regards to the Hijab and i will add on the driving laws..
I believe it is an act of aggression to force women to wear hijab and not drive, and i believe it goes against Islam to force people to believe or practice because the niyah is the most important thing, and if the person doesn’t have that then there is no point to force him/her into doing so. but i am not Saudi. If the Saudi’s believe it is an act of aggression then they should do something about it and change it. Until then it seems like they choose that for themselves and I have no right to decide what they want to do on their own land.

Yet.. you see that their are big changes taking place. For the first time ever in Jedda they opened a market where women are working on the cashier registries.

Lastly, conservative Islam or fundamental Islam does not suck, nor does conservative Christianity or fundamental Christianity suck. Allow me to correct you and be more clear…It is EXTREME of either conservatism or liberalism in any religion that SUCKS. EXTREMES are the problems we have. You can be conservative without having to force people and impose on them your will. But if you are extreme you would impose either conservatism or liberalism to an extreme.

As a side note.. if people were to practice the fundamentals of their religion, be it any religion, we wont have hate,crime, poverty and wars.

So yes WE SHOULD rid ourselves of all those FANATICS and EXTREMISTS because they are the cancer of our society.

Man i LAUGHED SO HARD when you made that lat comment earlier.. Ta2ta2o khwasreh! =)

YESLAM TIMMAK CATHY!

I DONT THINK YOU HAVE EVER POSTED A COMMENT THAT I DONT AGREE WITH.

YESLAM TIMMAK CATHY!

I DONT THINK YOU HAVE EVER POSTED A COMMENT THAT I DONT AGREE WITH.

YESLAM TIMMAK CATHY!

I DONT THINK YOU HAVE EVER POSTED A COMMENT THAT I DONT AGREE WITH.

Eventhoughit dnot realated to the story, but it’s a debate we started at ths page.We’re discussing wilayat al faqieh,and not the political power of HA.
However, thier military and politcal powers are not a secret.
The political power they have stems from the support they receive,and from thire political allies. This is a result of a political structure that is in place.
The political structure we have in Lebanon is no where near perfct. The whole sectarian system has to be reformed. unfortunitly,Until then, thsi system will continue to derail any imporovemnt to lebanese people.

Eventhoughit dnot realated to the story, but it’s a debate we started at ths page.We’re discussing wilayat al faqieh,and not the political power of HA.
However, thier military and politcal powers are not a secret.
The political power they have stems from the support they receive,and from thire political allies. This is a result of a political structure that is in place.
The political structure we have in Lebanon is no where near perfct. The whole sectarian system has to be reformed. unfortunitly,Until then, thsi system will continue to derail any imporovemnt to lebanese people.

Eventhoughit dnot realated to the story, but it’s a debate we started at ths page.We’re discussing wilayat al faqieh,and not the political power of HA.
However, thier military and politcal powers are not a secret.
The political power they have stems from the support they receive,and from thire political allies. This is a result of a political structure that is in place.
The political structure we have in Lebanon is no where near perfct. The whole sectarian system has to be reformed. unfortunitly,Until then, thsi system will continue to derail any imporovemnt to lebanese people.

MARC
ps.please disregard the repeated post(beloow), It was posted before correction,lol
Even though it is not related to the story, it’s a debate we had already started at this page. We’re discussing wilayat al faqieh,and not the political power of HA.
However, their military and political powers are not a secret.
The political power they have stems from the support they receive, and from their political allies. This is a result of a political structure that is in place.
The political structure we have in Lebanon is no where near perfect. The whole sectarian system has to be reformed. Unfortunately, until then, this system will continue to derail any improvement to Lebanon’s political life.
History, however, taught us that no one sect or party can dominate and control Lebanon. There is a limit to any party’s powers to impose major changes. No matter how bad things get, there is a minimum consensus that all sects and parties abide by to insure the sectarian balance. HA military powers may do wonders against Israel, but not domestically. Not even their military intervention in 2008 was meant to change the political structure.

MARC
ps.please disregard the repeated post(beloow), It was posted before correction,lol
Even though it is not related to the story, it’s a debate we had already started at this page. We’re discussing wilayat al faqieh,and not the political power of HA.
However, their military and political powers are not a secret.
The political power they have stems from the support they receive, and from their political allies. This is a result of a political structure that is in place.
The political structure we have in Lebanon is no where near perfect. The whole sectarian system has to be reformed. Unfortunately, until then, this system will continue to derail any improvement to Lebanon’s political life.
History, however, taught us that no one sect or party can dominate and control Lebanon. There is a limit to any party’s powers to impose major changes. No matter how bad things get, there is a minimum consensus that all sects and parties abide by to insure the sectarian balance. HA military powers may do wonders against Israel, but not domestically. Not even their military intervention in 2008 was meant to change the political structure.

MARC
ps.please disregard the repeated post(beloow), It was posted before correction,lol
Even though it is not related to the story, it’s a debate we had already started at this page. We’re discussing wilayat al faqieh,and not the political power of HA.
However, their military and political powers are not a secret.
The political power they have stems from the support they receive, and from their political allies. This is a result of a political structure that is in place.
The political structure we have in Lebanon is no where near perfect. The whole sectarian system has to be reformed. Unfortunately, until then, this system will continue to derail any improvement to Lebanon’s political life.
History, however, taught us that no one sect or party can dominate and control Lebanon. There is a limit to any party’s powers to impose major changes. No matter how bad things get, there is a minimum consensus that all sects and parties abide by to insure the sectarian balance. HA military powers may do wonders against Israel, but not domestically. Not even their military intervention in 2008 was meant to change the political structure.

Prophet without totally reading your blog. I can sense what are you going to say. Even if Wilayat Al Faqieh is not let say implemented in 10 yrs from now. But Its my strongest beliefs that Syria and hezbollah assasinated Hariri and many good people with him. And afterward like Samir Qassir and Walid Eido and Gemyal and gibran Tueini and Colonel Wisam who was responsible for the investigations. Having said that, they (hezbollah) is trying to tell us if we’re indicted then they’re threatening with civil strife. They want to kill people and then accuse someone else of it. They want to force their opinion on us not just on the STL. But also tried to force the gov’t to accept the before to control surveillance of the airport and control the communications network. When gov’t tried to stop them, then we all know what happened in May of 2008. We all know it was Hezbollah who pushed israel into war in 2006. Despite your beliefs that it was war in the making. If it was, then israel was caught unprepared. Knowing the history of israelis war with arabs, they always prepared better. No doubt hezbollah was a strong hit and run fighters. But again you say what that go to do with Wilayat al faqih. Its again hezbollah trying to force their opinions on us in many ways in lebanon. So what stops later when time is convient is to control the whole nation after week regimes in the arabs. The US is busy with let’s war with North Korea. Israel is busy with war in Iran.. There were many moderate forces in the shiite community coming out in 2006 and before then where they were oppenly pposing hezbollah. I do not hear any more of these voices anymore. The moderate shiites do not have strong voice anymore and no one else dares to challenge hezbollah. that’s what i am getting at. If Walid said nothing really wrong with the wilayet al faqih and he’s right about it. Then i do not mind it. But its the people who are running the show not the religious aspect of it. Its like in iran, can you really tell me honestly if their leaders are being good to their people? can you really tell me that their leaders are using this religious part not to oppress their people?
Again i am not afraid to confront you because i can tell you’re moderate and you have your bias toward hezbollah. But again i am afraid of Qassam, Nassrallah and not true followers of Imam Moussa al Sadr where the latest rumors mentioned Iran as helping Libya to remove him. Enough said!

Prophet without totally reading your blog. I can sense what are you going to say. Even if Wilayat Al Faqieh is not let say implemented in 10 yrs from now. But Its my strongest beliefs that Syria and hezbollah assasinated Hariri and many good people with him. And afterward like Samir Qassir and Walid Eido and Gemyal and gibran Tueini and Colonel Wisam who was responsible for the investigations. Having said that, they (hezbollah) is trying to tell us if we’re indicted then they’re threatening with civil strife. They want to kill people and then accuse someone else of it. They want to force their opinion on us not just on the STL. But also tried to force the gov’t to accept the before to control surveillance of the airport and control the communications network. When gov’t tried to stop them, then we all know what happened in May of 2008. We all know it was Hezbollah who pushed israel into war in 2006. Despite your beliefs that it was war in the making. If it was, then israel was caught unprepared. Knowing the history of israelis war with arabs, they always prepared better. No doubt hezbollah was a strong hit and run fighters. But again you say what that go to do with Wilayat al faqih. Its again hezbollah trying to force their opinions on us in many ways in lebanon. So what stops later when time is convient is to control the whole nation after week regimes in the arabs. The US is busy with let’s war with North Korea. Israel is busy with war in Iran.. There were many moderate forces in the shiite community coming out in 2006 and before then where they were oppenly pposing hezbollah. I do not hear any more of these voices anymore. The moderate shiites do not have strong voice anymore and no one else dares to challenge hezbollah. that’s what i am getting at. If Walid said nothing really wrong with the wilayet al faqih and he’s right about it. Then i do not mind it. But its the people who are running the show not the religious aspect of it. Its like in iran, can you really tell me honestly if their leaders are being good to their people? can you really tell me that their leaders are using this religious part not to oppress their people?
Again i am not afraid to confront you because i can tell you’re moderate and you have your bias toward hezbollah. But again i am afraid of Qassam, Nassrallah and not true followers of Imam Moussa al Sadr where the latest rumors mentioned Iran as helping Libya to remove him. Enough said!

GUSS,
HOW ABOUT JUST RECENTLY WHEN A MOSQUE WAS BURNED IN TENNESSEE? DOES THAT MEAN I HATE ALL CHRISTIANS? HELL NO! I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY WHEN A COUPLE OF MUSLIMS DO SOMETHING BAD, YOU AUTOMATICALLY ATTACK THE WHOLE MUSLIM RELIGION, YET WHEN ITS SOMEONE CHRISTIAN, IT IS SO DOUBLE STANDARD, AND YOU ONLY ATTACK THAT PERSON. ACCORDING TO YOU GUS, ONLY THE MUSLIMS ARE THE CANCER OF THE WORLD, IF THAT IS SO, THEN ALL JAILS WOULD BE FILLED WITH MUSLIMS? INCORRECT. IF YOU LOOK IN A JAIL IN THE USA, THE BIGGEST MINORITY RELIGION IS PROBABLY MUSLIMS. DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT AL QAEDA IS A PROJECT MADE TO TARNISH THE IMAGE OF ISLAM? GUS, YOU ARE NOT EVEN A CHRISTIAN, AS, A DEVOUT CHRISTIAN WOULD NOT JUDGE OTHERS BASED ON THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. I DONT EVEN KNOW WHY I WASTE MY TIME REPLYING TO YOU. BUT YOU AND KARIM ARE BOTH DISCUSTING, FI5AR YKASSER BA2DO, YOU BOTH MAKE ME SICK.

GUSS,
HOW ABOUT JUST RECENTLY WHEN A MOSQUE WAS BURNED IN TENNESSEE? DOES THAT MEAN I HATE ALL CHRISTIANS? HELL NO! I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY WHEN A COUPLE OF MUSLIMS DO SOMETHING BAD, YOU AUTOMATICALLY ATTACK THE WHOLE MUSLIM RELIGION, YET WHEN ITS SOMEONE CHRISTIAN, IT IS SO DOUBLE STANDARD, AND YOU ONLY ATTACK THAT PERSON. ACCORDING TO YOU GUS, ONLY THE MUSLIMS ARE THE CANCER OF THE WORLD, IF THAT IS SO, THEN ALL JAILS WOULD BE FILLED WITH MUSLIMS? INCORRECT. IF YOU LOOK IN A JAIL IN THE USA, THE BIGGEST MINORITY RELIGION IS PROBABLY MUSLIMS. DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT AL QAEDA IS A PROJECT MADE TO TARNISH THE IMAGE OF ISLAM? GUS, YOU ARE NOT EVEN A CHRISTIAN, AS, A DEVOUT CHRISTIAN WOULD NOT JUDGE OTHERS BASED ON THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. I DONT EVEN KNOW WHY I WASTE MY TIME REPLYING TO YOU. BUT YOU AND KARIM ARE BOTH DISCUSTING, FI5AR YKASSER BA2DO, YOU BOTH MAKE ME SICK.

GUSS,
HOW ABOUT JUST RECENTLY WHEN A MOSQUE WAS BURNED IN TENNESSEE? DOES THAT MEAN I HATE ALL CHRISTIANS? HELL NO! I JUST DONT UNDERSTAND WHY WHEN A COUPLE OF MUSLIMS DO SOMETHING BAD, YOU AUTOMATICALLY ATTACK THE WHOLE MUSLIM RELIGION, YET WHEN ITS SOMEONE CHRISTIAN, IT IS SO DOUBLE STANDARD, AND YOU ONLY ATTACK THAT PERSON. ACCORDING TO YOU GUS, ONLY THE MUSLIMS ARE THE CANCER OF THE WORLD, IF THAT IS SO, THEN ALL JAILS WOULD BE FILLED WITH MUSLIMS? INCORRECT. IF YOU LOOK IN A JAIL IN THE USA, THE BIGGEST MINORITY RELIGION IS PROBABLY MUSLIMS. DONT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT AL QAEDA IS A PROJECT MADE TO TARNISH THE IMAGE OF ISLAM? GUS, YOU ARE NOT EVEN A CHRISTIAN, AS, A DEVOUT CHRISTIAN WOULD NOT JUDGE OTHERS BASED ON THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS. I DONT EVEN KNOW WHY I WASTE MY TIME REPLYING TO YOU. BUT YOU AND KARIM ARE BOTH DISCUSTING, FI5AR YKASSER BA2DO, YOU BOTH MAKE ME SICK.

George, why cant you wait for those findings of STL?? why are you again rushing and jumping to conclusions?

who cares what your “strong beleif” tells you, you have no evidence of anything.

If they indict anyone of them, then you can say that, until then, refrain from judgement because your whole post seems biased after you say something like that.

George, why cant you wait for those findings of STL?? why are you again rushing and jumping to conclusions?

who cares what your “strong beleif” tells you, you have no evidence of anything.

If they indict anyone of them, then you can say that, until then, refrain from judgement because your whole post seems biased after you say something like that.

George, why cant you wait for those findings of STL?? why are you again rushing and jumping to conclusions?

who cares what your “strong beleif” tells you, you have no evidence of anything.

If they indict anyone of them, then you can say that, until then, refrain from judgement because your whole post seems biased after you say something like that.

Well said Walid! the wars that took place in any religious out spread were only set backs to those religions and it is what you call the “3ishra” and interactions between the people who practiced the basics that made people adopt those religions. Cause in the end they all preach basically the same thing. Oh by the way, I answered your question earlier but it seems like my comments are always put in a process of moderation lol!

Cathy, I am honored to be quoted or cited by you =D And what you said really if this person has one spec of decency and intellectuality he would logically analyze your statements and reassess his stances. Especially if he is a true Christian. Then again who am I to judge.

Peace

Well said Walid! the wars that took place in any religious out spread were only set backs to those religions and it is what you call the “3ishra” and interactions between the people who practiced the basics that made people adopt those religions. Cause in the end they all preach basically the same thing. Oh by the way, I answered your question earlier but it seems like my comments are always put in a process of moderation lol!

Cathy, I am honored to be quoted or cited by you =D And what you said really if this person has one spec of decency and intellectuality he would logically analyze your statements and reassess his stances. Especially if he is a true Christian. Then again who am I to judge.

Peace

Well said Walid! the wars that took place in any religious out spread were only set backs to those religions and it is what you call the “3ishra” and interactions between the people who practiced the basics that made people adopt those religions. Cause in the end they all preach basically the same thing. Oh by the way, I answered your question earlier but it seems like my comments are always put in a process of moderation lol!

Cathy, I am honored to be quoted or cited by you =D And what you said really if this person has one spec of decency and intellectuality he would logically analyze your statements and reassess his stances. Especially if he is a true Christian. Then again who am I to judge.

Peace

Cathy look who’s talking about being impatient. Isn’t your buddies and their allies who are attacking the STL on daily basis? why are they rushing to attack it then? Why do they want to abolish it unless the feel guilty? if the’re innocent they should prove themselves in the international court. It looks to me they’re convicted themselves and the proof in the putting..Why don’t ask them to stop attacking the STL before its annouces its ruling then?

Cathy look who’s talking about being impatient. Isn’t your buddies and their allies who are attacking the STL on daily basis? why are they rushing to attack it then? Why do they want to abolish it unless the feel guilty? if the’re innocent they should prove themselves in the international court. It looks to me they’re convicted themselves and the proof in the putting..Why don’t ask them to stop attacking the STL before its annouces its ruling then?

Cathy look who’s talking about being impatient. Isn’t your buddies and their allies who are attacking the STL on daily basis? why are they rushing to attack it then? Why do they want to abolish it unless the feel guilty? if the’re innocent they should prove themselves in the international court. It looks to me they’re convicted themselves and the proof in the putting..Why don’t ask them to stop attacking the STL before its annouces its ruling then?

Hezbollah members caught over in Iraq and they confess to attacking and training fighters to attack us troops. Its been all over the news from a while ago..

Hezbollah members caught over in Iraq and they confess to attacking and training fighters to attack us troops. Its been all over the news from a while ago..

Hezbollah members caught over in Iraq and they confess to attacking and training fighters to attack us troops. Its been all over the news from a while ago..

credible sources please george…if this is true, its news to me.
but I would like a credible source because I read and listen to the news daily and have never heard of this.

credible sources please george…if this is true, its news to me.
but I would like a credible source because I read and listen to the news daily and have never heard of this.

credible sources please george…if this is true, its news to me.
but I would like a credible source because I read and listen to the news daily and have never heard of this.

George,
To disagree is one thing; to be disagreeable is another
You are really making a Fatoush salad now. You are throwing everything in the mix again.
You keep repeating the same things over and over. No one can win an argument here. If you write me back before even reading my whole comment, what good is a debate?
Your back with same accusations and speculations regarding the murder or Hariri, and the others, when Hariri just apologized to Syria for falsely accusing them.
I won’t discuss those accusation because , you have already made up your mind.
Talking about fear of this, fear of that, I can tell you that everyone in Lebanon has fears. You want people to take your fears into consideration, yet you disregard the fears of others.
You want to recognize your heroes, and disregard of the heroes of others.
This debate really resembles the Lebanese national problem. Regardless what the issue is, people won’t listen to others. Everyone is fearful, and selfish. Where is this nation going, when you have leaders who are proud of their collaboration with the enemy? Do you know how scary that is? Do you ever think about the other side’s fears?
You keep going back to 2006 war. Even Israelis admit that they had planned to launch a war that year. Even Nasrallah said he would not have done it, had he known it was going to start a big war.
I reject your use of the term “Moderate Shiia”. There is no such thing as moderate shiia. Those who do not support HA or Amal are not doing so for their own political reasons. It isn’t about being moderate or not. Ahamd Al assad is trying to bring back the fudal shiite leadership his father and grandfather lead . He was giving $20 billions by the usa, and $20billions by the saudis. Sayed Ali Alamin who was always a berri supporter, and owes his position to Berri, was pissed that He was not giving Quabalan’s position. The Sabea family has been allied with the Harris since the early nineties. It’s the fear of loosing the family’s political leadership .
If there is any fear of intimidation ,it’s the fear of the Amal thugs. You obviously know so little about the shiia community in Lebanon. You believe any propaganda your march 14th puts out.

George,
To disagree is one thing; to be disagreeable is another
You are really making a Fatoush salad now. You are throwing everything in the mix again.
You keep repeating the same things over and over. No one can win an argument here. If you write me back before even reading my whole comment, what good is a debate?
Your back with same accusations and speculations regarding the murder or Hariri, and the others, when Hariri just apologized to Syria for falsely accusing them.
I won’t discuss those accusation because , you have already made up your mind.
Talking about fear of this, fear of that, I can tell you that everyone in Lebanon has fears. You want people to take your fears into consideration, yet you disregard the fears of others.
You want to recognize your heroes, and disregard of the heroes of others.
This debate really resembles the Lebanese national problem. Regardless what the issue is, people won’t listen to others. Everyone is fearful, and selfish. Where is this nation going, when you have leaders who are proud of their collaboration with the enemy? Do you know how scary that is? Do you ever think about the other side’s fears?
You keep going back to 2006 war. Even Israelis admit that they had planned to launch a war that year. Even Nasrallah said he would not have done it, had he known it was going to start a big war.
I reject your use of the term “Moderate Shiia”. There is no such thing as moderate shiia. Those who do not support HA or Amal are not doing so for their own political reasons. It isn’t about being moderate or not. Ahamd Al assad is trying to bring back the fudal shiite leadership his father and grandfather lead . He was giving $20 billions by the usa, and $20billions by the saudis. Sayed Ali Alamin who was always a berri supporter, and owes his position to Berri, was pissed that He was not giving Quabalan’s position. The Sabea family has been allied with the Harris since the early nineties. It’s the fear of loosing the family’s political leadership .
If there is any fear of intimidation ,it’s the fear of the Amal thugs. You obviously know so little about the shiia community in Lebanon. You believe any propaganda your march 14th puts out.

George,
To disagree is one thing; to be disagreeable is another
You are really making a Fatoush salad now. You are throwing everything in the mix again.
You keep repeating the same things over and over. No one can win an argument here. If you write me back before even reading my whole comment, what good is a debate?
Your back with same accusations and speculations regarding the murder or Hariri, and the others, when Hariri just apologized to Syria for falsely accusing them.
I won’t discuss those accusation because , you have already made up your mind.
Talking about fear of this, fear of that, I can tell you that everyone in Lebanon has fears. You want people to take your fears into consideration, yet you disregard the fears of others.
You want to recognize your heroes, and disregard of the heroes of others.
This debate really resembles the Lebanese national problem. Regardless what the issue is, people won’t listen to others. Everyone is fearful, and selfish. Where is this nation going, when you have leaders who are proud of their collaboration with the enemy? Do you know how scary that is? Do you ever think about the other side’s fears?
You keep going back to 2006 war. Even Israelis admit that they had planned to launch a war that year. Even Nasrallah said he would not have done it, had he known it was going to start a big war.
I reject your use of the term “Moderate Shiia”. There is no such thing as moderate shiia. Those who do not support HA or Amal are not doing so for their own political reasons. It isn’t about being moderate or not. Ahamd Al assad is trying to bring back the fudal shiite leadership his father and grandfather lead . He was giving $20 billions by the usa, and $20billions by the saudis. Sayed Ali Alamin who was always a berri supporter, and owes his position to Berri, was pissed that He was not giving Quabalan’s position. The Sabea family has been allied with the Harris since the early nineties. It’s the fear of loosing the family’s political leadership .
If there is any fear of intimidation ,it’s the fear of the Amal thugs. You obviously know so little about the shiia community in Lebanon. You believe any propaganda your march 14th puts out.

Prophet,

Lets suppose that our sectarian regime is reform with a much modern political regime.

Do you believe that the political force of HA will be mitigate…

I don’t see how myselt. Please explain how you see that happening.

Political of the past could be again political allies of the futur.

Please respond!

Peace!!

Prophet,

Lets suppose that our sectarian regime is reform with a much modern political regime.

Do you believe that the political force of HA will be mitigate…

I don’t see how myselt. Please explain how you see that happening.

Political of the past could be again political allies of the futur.

Please respond!

Peace!!

Prophet,

Lets suppose that our sectarian regime is reform with a much modern political regime.

Do you believe that the political force of HA will be mitigate…

I don’t see how myselt. Please explain how you see that happening.

Political of the past could be again political allies of the futur.

Please respond!

Peace!!

To Cathy and Prophet! you keep saying i am making accusations. But its hezbollah and their allies who are accusing the STL and attacking it without any rulings that came out yet. Why don’t criticize them first for rushing into judgment without any proofs of the rulings then? the more they attack it, then to me its a feelings of guilt. Otherwise they should just shut up and we should all do by the way until the rulings comes out. But don’t judge me because i have strong feelings that they had strong motives. Second hezbollah and their allies are the ones who are rushing to judgment by attacking the STL that will indict them? according to you the STL has not issues any rulings right? so why are they again rushing to judgment? tell me…

To Cathy and Prophet! you keep saying i am making accusations. But its hezbollah and their allies who are accusing the STL and attacking it without any rulings that came out yet. Why don’t criticize them first for rushing into judgment without any proofs of the rulings then? the more they attack it, then to me its a feelings of guilt. Otherwise they should just shut up and we should all do by the way until the rulings comes out. But don’t judge me because i have strong feelings that they had strong motives. Second hezbollah and their allies are the ones who are rushing to judgment by attacking the STL that will indict them? according to you the STL has not issues any rulings right? so why are they again rushing to judgment? tell me…

Cathy as far as us forces caught hezb members before. I will look it up and paste it on this site.

Cathy as far as us forces caught hezb members before. I will look it up and paste it on this site.

Cathy as far as us forces caught hezb members before. I will look it up and paste it on this site.

I think you are not capable of logic thinking , you cant even answer the simple questions, why Christians cant have bible in saudi arabia. I dont crash anything we know all well who crash things and kill innocent , you are capble of answering because you have a hidden agenda ,and full of hate to the west.Taliban killed 7 aids worker by accusing them of preaching christianity,mm, didnt the saudis support the Taliban ? are the taliban bugdhist ?the aid worker werent preachign anything this was their bible
you are playing idiot and running from the truth

I think you are not capable of logic thinking , you cant even answer the simple questions, why Christians cant have bible in saudi arabia. I dont crash anything we know all well who crash things and kill innocent , you are capble of answering because you have a hidden agenda ,and full of hate to the west.Taliban killed 7 aids worker by accusing them of preaching christianity,mm, didnt the saudis support the Taliban ? are the taliban bugdhist ?the aid worker werent preachign anything this was their bible
you are playing idiot and running from the truth

I think you are not capable of logic thinking , you cant even answer the simple questions, why Christians cant have bible in saudi arabia. I dont crash anything we know all well who crash things and kill innocent , you are capble of answering because you have a hidden agenda ,and full of hate to the west.Taliban killed 7 aids worker by accusing them of preaching christianity,mm, didnt the saudis support the Taliban ? are the taliban bugdhist ?the aid worker werent preachign anything this was their bible
you are playing idiot and running from the truth

MARC,
I don’t see any direct connections between the Political system and the weapons of HA.
The weapons issue is related to the threat of Israel, and to the regional problems. Though any reform in the political system can only be a positive thing to eventually(once ISRAEL THREAT IS A DDRESSED) HA’S laying down their arms.
A modern political system would offer a security that all sects seek and need. A system established through a consensus whereby everyone agrees that sectarianism is a disease that can’t be cured. Unless we have a reformed, democratic, civil, and fair system, none of our problems are to go away. I think this could be done in stages.
Along with the system reforms, we need law and order. We need independent justice system. We need corruption laws.
WE NEED EVERYTHING.

MARC,
I don’t see any direct connections between the Political system and the weapons of HA.
The weapons issue is related to the threat of Israel, and to the regional problems. Though any reform in the political system can only be a positive thing to eventually(once ISRAEL THREAT IS A DDRESSED) HA’S laying down their arms.
A modern political system would offer a security that all sects seek and need. A system established through a consensus whereby everyone agrees that sectarianism is a disease that can’t be cured. Unless we have a reformed, democratic, civil, and fair system, none of our problems are to go away. I think this could be done in stages.
Along with the system reforms, we need law and order. We need independent justice system. We need corruption laws.
WE NEED EVERYTHING.

CATHY,
I have to fulfill my prophecy. Like I said to George:
To disagree is one thing; to be disagreeable is another? LOL
That sounds like my wife and I: We make it a point not to argue over anything not worth arguing about. Of course, this leads to some dandy fights over whether or not a subject is worthwhile. I bet you feel sorry for here now, lol

CATHY,
I have to fulfill my prophecy. Like I said to George:
To disagree is one thing; to be disagreeable is another? LOL
That sounds like my wife and I: We make it a point not to argue over anything not worth arguing about. Of course, this leads to some dandy fights over whether or not a subject is worthwhile. I bet you feel sorry for here now, lol

GEAORGE , IT WAS THE SAME STL THAT PUT FOUR OFFICERS IN JAIL FOR NO REASON. AND NO ONE SAID YOU CAN’T CRITISIZE EITHER.LEARN TO LISTEM BUDDY.DAMN YOU, WHY DO I LIKE YOU?LOL

GEAORGE , IT WAS THE SAME STL THAT PUT FOUR OFFICERS IN JAIL FOR NO REASON. AND NO ONE SAID YOU CAN’T CRITISIZE EITHER.LEARN TO LISTEM BUDDY.DAMN YOU, WHY DO I LIKE YOU?LOL

The Taliban are an extremist group that If It was in my power I would do everyone in this world a favor and execute them.

Christians can’t have bible in Saudi because Saudi is ruled by a dirty, money thriving royal family that works with any government even Israel for the sake of their pockets benefit and regional power.

Christians can’t hold the bible in Saudi because the ruling leaders don’t want to educate their people. They feed them one sided opinions of Islam and many cultural and traditional falsies so that when the Kid grows up he/she doesn’t have anything on his mind but to do everything he was forced not to do.. as apposed to bettering him/her self by studying all the books of the world and on top of them all the Bible. Cause if the people of Saudi become educated.. there is no way on earth they are going to shut up to their self picked rulers.

That my friend is why Christians can’t hold a bible in Saudi. It is wrong and MANY MANY Muslims follow the teachings of our prophet who i am sure you wont hesitate to disrespect which is:

“itlobo il 3ilm walaw fil seen” which means “search for knowledge even if you have to go to China” and to go to china 1400 years ago was not a matter of 1000 bucks and your there in a few hours.

GUSS… fi2 min wahmak.

The Taliban are an extremist group that If It was in my power I would do everyone in this world a favor and execute them.

Christians can’t have bible in Saudi because Saudi is ruled by a dirty, money thriving royal family that works with any government even Israel for the sake of their pockets benefit and regional power.

Christians can’t hold the bible in Saudi because the ruling leaders don’t want to educate their people. They feed them one sided opinions of Islam and many cultural and traditional falsies so that when the Kid grows up he/she doesn’t have anything on his mind but to do everything he was forced not to do.. as apposed to bettering him/her self by studying all the books of the world and on top of them all the Bible. Cause if the people of Saudi become educated.. there is no way on earth they are going to shut up to their self picked rulers.

That my friend is why Christians can’t hold a bible in Saudi. It is wrong and MANY MANY Muslims follow the teachings of our prophet who i am sure you wont hesitate to disrespect which is:

“itlobo il 3ilm walaw fil seen” which means “search for knowledge even if you have to go to China” and to go to china 1400 years ago was not a matter of 1000 bucks and your there in a few hours.

GUSS… fi2 min wahmak.

GEAORGE , IT WAS THE SAME STL THAT PUT FOUR OFFICERS IN JAIL FOR NO REASON. AND NO ONE SAID YOU CAN’T CRITISIZE EITHER.LEARN TO LISTEM BUDDY.DAMN YOU, WHY DO I LIKE YOU?LOL

The Taliban are an extremist group that If It was in my power I would do everyone in this world a favor and execute them.

Christians can’t have bible in Saudi because Saudi is ruled by a dirty, money thriving royal family that works with any government even Israel for the sake of their pockets benefit and regional power.

Christians can’t hold the bible in Saudi because the ruling leaders don’t want to educate their people. They feed them one sided opinions of Islam and many cultural and traditional falsies so that when the Kid grows up he/she doesn’t have anything on his mind but to do everything he was forced not to do.. as apposed to bettering him/her self by studying all the books of the world and on top of them all the Bible. Cause if the people of Saudi become educated.. there is no way on earth they are going to shut up to their self picked rulers.

That my friend is why Christians can’t hold a bible in Saudi. It is wrong and MANY MANY Muslims follow the teachings of our prophet who i am sure you wont hesitate to disrespect which is:

“itlobo il 3ilm walaw fil seen” which means “search for knowledge even if you have to go to China” and to go to china 1400 years ago was not a matter of 1000 bucks and your there in a few hours.

GUSS… fi2 min wahmak.

HABIBI MUSTAPHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,I DIDN’T SEE YOU SNEEK IN!!!!!YOUR JNUBI BROTHER NEEDS HERE,LOL

HABIBI MUSTAPHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,I DIDN’T SEE YOU SNEEK IN!!!!!YOUR JNUBI BROTHER NEEDS HERE,LOL

HABIBI MUSTAPHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,I DIDN’T SEE YOU SNEEK IN!!!!!YOUR JNUBI BROTHER NEEDS HERE,LOL

Ya prophet,

With all due respect, I agree and disagree. Everything you say about our political system is fair. Espacially law against corruption.

But you are not adressing the real issue here.

The issue Im discussing is the political influence of Ha and the political weight of Ha is directly related with the military arm.

They have an advantage, that no one can denied.

This advantage can forcefully impose their will on the gov.

Because no other sect wants to go back at it like the old time.

You see, I believe that we will have a consensus democratie only if all the sect in lebanon feel secure and are regarded equal on the table of reconciliation.

How can you say that HA doesnt want to go far …or it can’t go far…

They have a military arm card that all other sect renounced in the taif accord which help end our civil strife.

I will agree with you when and only when Ha arm are at the service of one army one nation and one people.

This could be a very simple one step reform that can lead to all other reform that are much needed in Lebanon.

Peace

Ya prophet,

With all due respect, I agree and disagree. Everything you say about our political system is fair. Espacially law against corruption.

But you are not adressing the real issue here.

The issue Im discussing is the political influence of Ha and the political weight of Ha is directly related with the military arm.

They have an advantage, that no one can denied.

This advantage can forcefully impose their will on the gov.

Because no other sect wants to go back at it like the old time.

You see, I believe that we will have a consensus democratie only if all the sect in lebanon feel secure and are regarded equal on the table of reconciliation.

How can you say that HA doesnt want to go far …or it can’t go far…

They have a military arm card that all other sect renounced in the taif accord which help end our civil strife.

I will agree with you when and only when Ha arm are at the service of one army one nation and one people.

This could be a very simple one step reform that can lead to all other reform that are much needed in Lebanon.

Peace

Ya prophet,

With all due respect, I agree and disagree. Everything you say about our political system is fair. Espacially law against corruption.

But you are not adressing the real issue here.

The issue Im discussing is the political influence of Ha and the political weight of Ha is directly related with the military arm.

They have an advantage, that no one can denied.

This advantage can forcefully impose their will on the gov.

Because no other sect wants to go back at it like the old time.

You see, I believe that we will have a consensus democratie only if all the sect in lebanon feel secure and are regarded equal on the table of reconciliation.

How can you say that HA doesnt want to go far …or it can’t go far…

They have a military arm card that all other sect renounced in the taif accord which help end our civil strife.

I will agree with you when and only when Ha arm are at the service of one army one nation and one people.

This could be a very simple one step reform that can lead to all other reform that are much needed in Lebanon.

Peace

LOL! hahahahha… i must of lost a pound for the swiftness of my entry into the realm of ya libnan in the guidance of our PROPHET hahahahha…

Khayeh, hope your doing well.

LOL! hahahahha… i must of lost a pound for the swiftness of my entry into the realm of ya libnan in the guidance of our PROPHET hahahahha…

Khayeh, hope your doing well.

LOL! hahahahha… i must of lost a pound for the swiftness of my entry into the realm of ya libnan in the guidance of our PROPHET hahahahha…

Khayeh, hope your doing well.

Yes it was the STL who put them but they released them not cleared them. It was a mistake jailing someone without trying them as much as i hated all four officers. But again they never cleared them of wrongdoings. All I was sayi