Geagea: Hezbollah is forcing us to choose between the tribunal and peace

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Let no one be mistaken, the Lebanese people that rose up on March 14, 2005, yearning for a new dawn, is ready today for “fourteen March 14’s” to prevent the downfall of the republic once again, Lebanese Forces leader Samir Geagea said Saturday, speaking at the annual rally held to commemorate “the Martyrs of the Lebanese Forces” at Jounieh’s municipal stadium.

Geagea added, “some of them are raising the false witnesses issue and describing it as they see fit, issuing their warnings to the republic: you either execute our verdicts against false witnesses, or you are a stupid, collaborator republic, against which only destruction is useful.”

“We’ve been trying hard to tell them that no one can label a false witness as so other than the relevant judicial authorities, and that it’s practically impossible to carry on with the false witnesses case before the issuance of an indictment” by the Special Tribunal for Lebanon, Geagea added.

“It’s enough to observe the identity of the major forces behind all of what’s happening, so that we become totally confident that if the other camp succeeded in its coup, Lebanon and the republic wouldn’t exist anymore, we’d rather turn into merely a district,” Geagea warned.

He noted that “the gates this time are not wide open in the presence of a government whose core and head are sovereign, in addition to the state institutions – the Judiciary, the army and the Internal Security Forces.”

Geagea accused the Hizbullah-led political camp of fabricating the so-called false witnesses who testified before the international investigation commission probing the murder of ex-premier Rafik Hariri, adding that this camp also “marketed them in the media to the furthest extent.”

“We’ll be the first to demand that false witnesses be tried when they become identified after the end of investigations. Furthermore, we believe that Abu Adas is the lead character in the false witnesses play, and that there’s one director, despite the presence of many actors,” the LF leader added.

“They’re asking us to choose between the tribunal and civil peace, but our answer is the tribunal and civil peace together, because there can’t be real, profound civil peace without accountability and without putting an end to crime and criminals.”

Geagea slammed those “who are claiming to lead a revolution against corruption,” noting that “they have to be the holders of a long history in integrity, transparency and ethics, and these all are totally absent from the behavior of those behind this claim.”

In remarks obviously related to the campaign led by Free Patriotic Movement leader MP Michel Aoun regarding the legitimacy of the police Intelligence Bureau, Geagea said: “As to revolution against some institutions and their bylaws, it’s not meant as a revolution to replace outdated laws and systems with more contemporary ones, but rather to change the rules of the current game, as it didn’t enable those behind such calls to achieve their personal aims.”

“Whatever happens, that won’t lead to anything more than a regime change, but the republic shall remain,” Geagea vowed.

On a separate note, Geagea called on FPM supporters to “take a bold decision by returning to the founding principles of the FPM and holding onto them, which would make us instantly come together and start a new day without sensitivities or the remnants of the past.”

Naharnet

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87 responses to “Geagea: Hezbollah is forcing us to choose between the tribunal and peace”

  1. Our dear president only send a Bouquet of roses today to the Martyrs day ,but he send his representatives for the Iranian party dayssssssssss!!!!!! Berri back up on sending his envoy too ( we can’t blame him) even though the Lebanese forces provided support to Amal fighters against the PLO in the 78’s and 80’s.
    I really wonder about the president we have, he send his envoys to Iranian party and to nay other occasions and now he’s shy to send representative to the LF Martyrs days ( I mean all Forces ) , he want to be politically correct or that because of them he is a president now, who would have defended against Ahmad el Khatib who took most of the heavy arms in the south and attach the hotel areas in 1976 and gain it militarily and against the PLO and Mourabitoun and Bring back the republic other than Bashir el Gemayel/ Camille Chamoun and Cedars Defenders and even the Marada that time . We need to pass the law that Camille Chamoun wanted to pass that no army Chief could run for president anymore !!! I really wasn’t a fan of this president in the beginning as I don’t know what his history ., why he wanted to be president by the way ?, I like Hariri the son more for the fact he talk and outspoken , this president didn’t make a single public comment about Bourj Abu Haidar and Airport incident and the Outlaw Sayyed , I don’t trust him and many like me , he’s being politically correct to Syria and the Iranian party who brought him to power with no doubt ( who else brought him) , it is a shame that this position that all christians are crying to give it power is being given to president that anyway don’t have guts to use a power that no one need to give themand is called courage ,that is the requirements of any Leader, I think 2 army chief as president and is enough, Chehab was in between and he was shrewd man with double personality , but did good in the administration by creating the civil hiring department for the governement ( majlis el khidme al wataniye) and try to clean up many corruption

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    Our dear president only send a Bouquet of roses today to the Martyrs day ,but he send his representatives for the Iranian party dayssssssssss!!!!!! Berri back up on sending his envoy too ( we can’t blame him) even though the Lebanese forces provided support to Amal fighters against the PLO in the 78’s and 80’s.
    I really wonder about the president we have, he send his envoys to Iranian party and to nay other occasions and now he’s shy to send representative to the LF Martyrs days ( I mean all Forces ) , he want to be politically correct or that because of them he is a president now, who would have defended against Ahmad el Khatib who took most of the heavy arms in the south and attach the hotel areas in 1976 and gain it militarily and against the PLO and Mourabitoun and Bring back the republic other than Bashir el Gemayel/ Camille Chamoun and Cedars Defenders and even the Marada that time . We need to pass the law that Camille Chamoun wanted to pass that no army Chief could run for president anymore !!! I really wasn’t a fan of this president in the beginning as I don’t know what his history ., why he wanted to be president by the way ?, I like Hariri the son more for the fact he talk and outspoken , this president didn’t make a single public comment about Bourj Abu Haidar and Airport incident and the Outlaw Sayyed , I don’t trust him and many like me , he’s being politically correct to Syria and the Iranian party who brought him to power with no doubt ( who else brought him) , it is a shame that this position that all christians are crying to give it power is being given to president that anyway don’t have guts to use a power that no one need to give themand is called courage ,that is the requirements of any Leader, I think 2 army chief as president and is enough, Chehab was in between and he was shrewd man with double personality , but did good in the administration by creating the civil hiring department for the governement ( majlis el khidme al wataniye) and try to clean up many corruption

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    Our dear president only send a Bouquet of roses today to the Martyrs day ,but he send his representatives for the Iranian party dayssssssssss!!!!!! Berri back up on sending his envoy too ( we can’t blame him) even though the Lebanese forces provided support to Amal fighters against the PLO in the 78’s and 80’s.
    I really wonder about the president we have, he send his envoys to Iranian party and to nay other occasions and now he’s shy to send representative to the LF Martyrs days ( I mean all Forces ) , he want to be politically correct or that because of them he is a president now, who would have defended against Ahmad el Khatib who took most of the heavy arms in the south and attach the hotel areas in 1976 and gain it militarily and against the PLO and Mourabitoun and Bring back the republic other than Bashir el Gemayel/ Camille Chamoun and Cedars Defenders and even the Marada that time . We need to pass the law that Camille Chamoun wanted to pass that no army Chief could run for president anymore !!! I really wasn’t a fan of this president in the beginning as I don’t know what his history ., why he wanted to be president by the way ?, I like Hariri the son more for the fact he talk and outspoken , this president didn’t make a single public comment about Bourj Abu Haidar and Airport incident and the Outlaw Sayyed , I don’t trust him and many like me , he’s being politically correct to Syria and the Iranian party who brought him to power with no doubt ( who else brought him) , it is a shame that this position that all christians are crying to give it power is being given to president that anyway don’t have guts to use a power that no one need to give themand is called courage ,that is the requirements of any Leader, I think 2 army chief as president and is enough, Chehab was in between and he was shrewd man with double personality , but did good in the administration by creating the civil hiring department for the governement ( majlis el khidme al wataniye) and try to clean up many corruption

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    Our dear president only send a Bouquet of roses today to the Martyrs day ,but he send his representatives for the Iranian party dayssssssssss!!!!!! Berri back up on sending his envoy too ( we can’t blame him) even though the Lebanese forces provided support to Amal fighters against the PLO in the 78’s and 80’s.
    I really wonder about the president we have, he send his envoys to Iranian party and to nay other occasions and now he’s shy to send representative to the LF Martyrs days ( I mean all Forces ) , he want to be politically correct or that because of them he is a president now, who would have defended against Ahmad el Khatib who took most of the heavy arms in the south and attach the hotel areas in 1976 and gain it militarily and against the PLO and Mourabitoun and Bring back the republic other than Bashir el Gemayel/ Camille Chamoun and Cedars Defenders and even the Marada that time . We need to pass the law that Camille Chamoun wanted to pass that no army Chief could run for president anymore !!! I really wasn’t a fan of this president in the beginning as I don’t know what his history ., why he wanted to be president by the way ?, I like Hariri the son more for the fact he talk and outspoken , this president didn’t make a single public comment about Bourj Abu Haidar and Airport incident and the Outlaw Sayyed , I don’t trust him and many like me , he’s being politically correct to Syria and the Iranian party who brought him to power with no doubt ( who else brought him) , it is a shame that this position that all christians are crying to give it power is being given to president that anyway don’t have guts to use a power that no one need to give themand is called courage ,that is the requirements of any Leader, I think 2 army chief as president and is enough, Chehab was in between and he was shrewd man with double personality , but did good in the administration by creating the civil hiring department for the governement ( majlis el khidme al wataniye) and try to clean up many corruption

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    dear geogea you should call this people (ha) the tarators of lebanon sovreignity they are not lebaneese they are conspirators against the state of lebanon and the lebaneese people
    the definition of a trators is when a group of people place the interrest of foreign countries before the interrest of there own state and that apply to ha because they place the persian interrest above the state interrest of lebanon so they are considered traitors and conspirators not only against the state of lebanon but also they are misleading our other lebaneese shia,s brothers and sisters

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    dear geogea you should call this people (ha) the tarators of lebanon sovreignity they are not lebaneese they are conspirators against the state of lebanon and the lebaneese people

    the definition of a trators is when a group of people place the interrest of foreign countries before there own stae and that apply to ha because they place the persian interrest above the state interrest of lebanon so they are considered traitors and conspirators not only against the state of lebanon but also they are misleading our other lebaneese shia,s brothers and sisters

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    dear geagea god send you back to help the lebaneese people and the lebaneese state you are a true hero ; yes some people may have accuse you of dealing with foreign countries which you may have but you did it only to help lebanon and free the lebaneese from the phalestinians invaders and you have never place other coutries interrest first before the interrest of the stateand the people of lebanon not like (ha) the persian interrest comes first in there believes before the interrest of the state of lebanon and the lebaneese people ;you are the hero and ha are the traitors

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    dear geagea god send you back to help the lebaneese people and the lebaneese state you are a true hero ; yes some people may have accuse you of dealing with foreign countries which you may have but you did it only to help lebanon and free the lebaneese from the phalestinians invaders and you have never place other coutries interrest first before the interrest of the stateand the people of lebanon not like (ha) the persian interrest comes first in there believes before the interrest of the state of lebanon and the lebaneese people ;you are the hero and ha are the traitors

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    lebanon should sue iran for medeling and conspiring to destroy lebanon in the united nation court of law ;which lebanon is a member of united nation and you bring iran to the internatinal court for conspiring against the lebaneese state and sue ahmadinijidad personally because he is a dictator and the un should freeze all his personal asset and bring him to the un court of law where he should be tried for conspiracy to destroy the sovreignity of the lebaneese state and hold him resposible for all the crimes commited against the lebaneese people by his persian mobs in lebanon that he finance and supply with arms and try him for crimes against humanity for killing his own civilians that persian women who were peacefully demonstrating in iran

  10. josephphd Avatar

    lebanon should sue iran for medeling and conspiring to destroy lebanon in the united nation court of law ;which lebanon is a member of united nation and you bring iran to the internatinal court for conspiring against the lebaneese state and sue ahmadinijidad personally because he is a dictator and the un should freeze all his personal asset and bring him to the un court of law where he should be tried for conspiracy to destroy the sovreignity of the lebaneese state and hold him resposible for all the crimes commited against the lebaneese people by his persian mobs in lebanon that he finance and supply with arms and try him for crimes against humanity for killing his own civilians that persian women who were peacefully demonstrating in iran

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    lebanon should sue iran for medeling and conspiring to destroy lebanon through in the united nation lebanon is a member of the united nation and you bring iran to the internatinal court for conspiring against the lebaneese state and sue ahmadinijidad personally because he is a dictator and the un should freeze all his personal asset and bring him to the un court of law where he should be tried for conspiracy to destroy the sovreignity of the country

  12. What Martyrs wlak ya Geagea? since when did you ever fight for a bigger cause than yoursefl, you are a criminal pretty much like many others in March 08 and March 14. Lebanon is being lead by two powerful parties full of criminals of war and has a long history of doing wrong to Lebanon’s people and goverments.

    Henceforth, when you have a group of gangsters arguing against each other with a long history of murder and violence one should logically expect that this arguement will only end in another civil war which is most likely to happen even without the STL.

    The STL is being used to justify another civil war which will probably happen ANYWAYS.

    Dee3anak ya Libnein

  13. What Martyrs wlak ya Geagea? since when did you ever fight for a bigger cause than yoursefl, you are a criminal pretty much like many others in March 08 and March 14. Lebanon is being lead by two powerful parties full of criminals of war and has a long history of doing wrong to Lebanon’s people and goverments.

    Henceforth, when you have a group of gangsters arguing against each other with a long history of murder and violence one should logically expect that this arguement will only end in another civil war which is most likely to happen even without the STL.

    The STL is being used to justify another civil war which will probably happen ANYWAYS.

    Dee3anak ya Libnein

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    What Martyrs wlak ya Geagea? since when did you ever fight for a bigger cause than yoursefl, you are a criminal pretty much like many others in March 08 and March 14. Lebanon is being lead by two powerful parties full of criminals of war and has a long history of doing wrong to Lebanon’s people and goverments.

    Henceforth, when you have a group of gangsters arguing against each other with a long history of murder and violence one should logically expect that this arguement will only end in another civil war which is most likely to happen even without the STL.

    The STL is being used to justify another civil war which will probably happen ANYWAYS.

    Dee3anak ya Libnein

  15. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Their heroes are criminals!!!!!!!!
    Are you talking about the same Samir Geagea who was tried for ordering four political assassinations, including the assassination of Lebanon’s Prime Minister Rashid Karami in 1987, and the unsuccessful attempted assassination of Defense Minister Michel Murr in 1991?He was convicted ,wasn’t He? Is that the same geagea who was trained and supported by Israel? Samir Geagea; the traitor?
    Correct me if I’m Wong. Is this the same samir Geagea who was suspected of bombing the Maronite Catholic church of Saydet Najat in Jounieh, in which tens of worshipers were killed in 1994?
    If I’m not mistaken;- Samir Geagea led an attack against Tony Farngieh, a prominent Christian leader of North Lebanon at his summer family house.
    Franjieh was killed along with dozens of supporters.
    – Lebanese Forces militia of which Geagea was a rising member at that point, participated in massacres against Palestinian refugees in camps in Beirut leaving more than a thousand casualties
    .- Geagea’s atrocities included murder, village destruction, displacing villagers, and execution of arrested citizens, massacring families, drug and weapon dealing, money laundering, and finally burying nuclear wastes in the mountains of his controlled region in exchange for cash. His crimes did not spare Muslims, Christians or Druze.
    On October 13, 1990, Samir Geagea’s militia supported with artillery bombing the Syrian invasion of Beirut, which led to the fall of the Lebanese Ministry of Defense and the Lebanese Presidential Palace. Along with the massacres committed against the Lebanese Armed Forces and civilians that day, Geagea’s militia celebrated with gun shots and fireworks the defeat of the Lebanese Armed Forces and subsequent Syrian control of Lebanon. A few days later, Geagea assassinated his main political opponent Dany Chamoun and his family.
    1984 – Assassination of Ghaith Khoury, a potential threat to his command position, outside a beach resort in the Byblos area. Khoury’s wife was injured and hospitalized. The wife was later shot on the operation table in the hospital.

    No single record can summarize Samir Geagea’s crimes against humanity. There is no way to include all the crimes against civilians; the raping, the destruction of houses over their residents, the beheading of civilians and throwing their bodies under bridges, throwing people alive in valleys from bridges, sinking people with concrete blocks in their feet, and destroying houses of worship on their attendees.
    There is no way to compile a record of all Geagea’s crimes.
    But to some people, He’s HERO.
    That is the stupidity of Lebanese people.
    Their heroes are criminals.

    1. You are a typical Bla bla person with no facts, first under who Geagea was tried, by what government ,if Geagea was guilty of kIlling Danny Chamoun why then his brother Dory was there , you are liar and history twister , Geagea has nothing to do with Sabra and Chatila, even there is no offical indictment of the Lebanese forces as under International law the occupying force is the responsible for security ,that’s why Israel was accused, and if there is a leader who was accused it was Elie Hobeika and if you recall well he was assassinated weeks before he go to France and testify for the massacre , Tony Frangie died because of his drug dealing with the Syrians and go watch the Radio Canada Mark Bourque investigation about the Lebanese /Syrian drug lords in 1976-1978 and the investigation reveal that the Caln Frangie was the head of the drug leaders ring sending drugs to Canada and USA and the ring leader was Joseph Abizeid who was related to Frangie the Father , also they were preparing an assiantion of presiden Elias Sarkis with the Syrian and the Canadian /FBI intelligence warned the president Sarkis back then – just type Mark Bourque ,Filiere Libanaise de drogue”. Geagea agreed to Mouawad election and the mmentally retarded Aoun who was suppose to step down as all his duties was as temporary PM to make sure a president is elected was suppose to step down, and we could have avoided the Tatar/Syrian mongols intervention in Lebanon ,

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Guss39,
        Margaret Weis’s famous quotation came to mind, after reading your denial .She said: ““Hope is the denial of reality”
        There is no point of arguing with you the facts about Geagea’s criminal record. His record is very well documented.
        People, like you, who have a sense of denial, are very selective about the realities they accept.
        I understand that human beings are often in denial about people they love.
        It usually happens to unsecure people like you, where security is the denial of life. Go on my friend, live in an illusion, and pretend you’re happy.
        Just remember that people, who deny their mistakes, or the mistakes of their loved ones, usually end up repeating the same mistakes, but at a higher cost to themselves, and to those they love.

        1. Again Bla Bla, I gave you proof ,and talk from almost agreed on fact and you bring things from the Air , I am not fan of Geagea but what’s right is right, I am not tribal as you are and not a follower of anyone , but go ask any kid on the street in Lebanon who committed the crimes in Sabra and Chatila will tell you Israelis and Hobeika special forces men ( most of the Christians who committed the atrocities were relative to people massacred in Damour) Hobeika fiance family was from Damour . Geagea didn’t have reason and he wasn’t an important men back then in comparison to Hobeika the HK , Hobeika had personal , there is no way the HK men or Saad Haddad ( The isrealis where watching and prevented the Palestinians from leaving) could have entered the Camps intelligence without the Isrealis,t,Not even Arafat accused GEAGEA ,it is the first time I hear it , so be careful with your invention ,because are not idiots in the forum or ignorant .No one can denies the fact that Geagea accepted Mouawad as president and the mentally retarded refused, no one forgot how Aoun tried to scare the MP’s from going to Saudi Arabia to vote for a president . You have to remember that the LF never declared war on Syrian officially because only an idiot can do that , the LF was a defender and caused pain to the Syrians and prevented them from occupying the Christian area but was no match to the Syrian army. I don’t recall officially Geagea was accused of any slaughters other than the media said , Geagea when the Chouf war happened was under the leadership of Pierre Gemayel who should be held responsible for that when he delcared “Faltakoun al Maarak wi la yanteser al Akwa ” , that’s why we need now an STL because people like you and the Iranian party twist everything and talk to talk, .The Iranian party is saying the STL is going to accuse them , why ,how do they know ? and you are saying Geagea was tried , but as I said Dory Chamoun presence tell you that he didn’t commit the crime, foe me Danny was killed by the Syrian agents.As for Karame I think the Lebanese army intelligence took the opportunity to finish with him as he was the major factor in splitting the Lebanese army . ANYHOW WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT GEAGEA HE SERVED 15VYEARS FOR MAYBE CRIME HE COMMITTED MAYBE NOT WHO FROM THE OTHER POLITICANS WHO HAVE FULL BLOOD ON THEIR HAND WAS TRIED ,GEAGEA SERVED , HOW ABOUT WALID JOUMBALTT AND THE MASSACRE OF 350 INNOCENT CHRITIANS WHEN HIS FATHER DIED .HOW ABOUT THE PLO LEADERS AND THEIR KIDANPPING AND MURDERS OF INNOCENT,HOW ABOUT IBRAHIM KLEILAT ,HOW ABOUT AMAL AND ALI SAFWAN AND SO ON ,WHO ELSE FROM THE BLOOD THIRSTY POLITICANS WAS PUT ON TRIAL ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2. to theProhet ,You are a typical Bla bla person with no facts, first under who Geagea was tried, by what government ?,if Geagea was guilty of kIlling Danny Chamoun why then his brother Dory was there , Heahea was never tried for Tony Frangie , and Soleiman Frangie was just on Kalem El Nes saying hoa Lahoud try to force him to press charges against him for killing his father and he rejected the Lahoud and the Syrian pressure and didn’t do it ,just go watch the interviiew .
      You are liar and history twister , Geagea has nothing to do with Sabra and Chatila, even there is no official indictment of the Lebanese forces as under International law the occupying force is the responsible for security ,( same with Hariri Killign the Syrian were in control of Lebanon ) that’s why Israel was accused, and if there is a leader who was accused it was Elie Hobeika and if you recall well he was assassinated weeks before he go to France and testify for the massacre , Tony Frangie died because of his drug dealing with the Syrians and go watch the Radio Canada Mark Bourque investigation about the Lebanese /Syrian drug lords in 1976-1978 and the investigation reveal that the Caln Frangie was the head of the drug leaders ring sending drugs to Canada and USA and the ring leader was Joseph Abizeid who was related to Frangie the Father , also they were preparing an assiantion of presiden Elias Sarkis with the Syrian and the Canadian /FBI intelligence warned the president Sarkis back then – just type Mark Bourque ,Filiere Libanaise de drogue”.
      Go Straighten yor fact because you lack a lot of reading and you are blinded with your hate , and it is not known what is your political views ,you are what we call in Arabic insen Mazbzab wa kil isa chekel” .
      Geagea agreed to Mouawad election and the mentally retarded Aoun who was suppose to step down as all his duties was as temporary PM to make sure a president is elected was suppose to step down, and we could have avoided the Tatar/Syrian mongols intervention in Lebanon , the american told Aoun to buzz after Mouawad was elected to avoid the fall of the Christian area and the entrance of the tatar ,alos US said they are busy with Saddam invasion of Kuwait and have no time for him. But the idiot pressed the LF and Geagea to side with him by refusing Mouawad and Taef and I quote what Aoun said “or yo are with me or with the taef” , this sick head until now want to be president ,Geagea was a bigger force military than Hezbollah and now we wouldn’t be in this situation and Mouawad would have been a good president ,
      Gegaea was tried at the hand of the Syrian agents in Lebanon and there is no proof, the proof of his innocence that Dory Chamoun is there and that hate of Dory to Aoun as the really who caused the killing of Danny Chamoun is Aounand his Harb el Tahriri.
      People like you and politican like you make Lebanon an impossible place to have democracy .you are not justice seeker but people full of lies and deceipt and woring for outsider and you are fanatic religious or hiding an agenda Liars!!!! fact twisters like your masters in Iran and Syria and Israel

    3. Prophet Geagea there were never proof that Geagea bombed the church and many points at Syrians. There were no proof that he was behind Rashid Karami either. Syria bombed and killed many lebanese civialians and leaders yet you never criticized them. Geagea was not in charge of Sabra and Shatillah and it was Elie Hobeikah whom Hezbollah and Syria embraced. So what if he dealt with israel to save christians and save lebanon from Palestinians control? what didn’t the other militias and PLO groups were involved in many brutal killings and massacres? I am not saying Geagea is a Saint. But he did at least go to jail compare to no other leader who were indirectly responsible and gave Syrians and palestinians groups total control of lebanon. Who helped and tortured and killed 10’s of thousands of Lebanese.
      And why do you protect the assasin Moussawi who’s threatening blood and chaos by trying to evade the STL? You guys are so sure that Gegea did all this and yet he faced the court of justice and you guys are scared to face it obviously. Can you hear your fellow hezbollah threatening and beating the drums of war and terror in Lebanon. The palestininas tried to take over lebanon and there were killing lebanese. As much as hezbollah feels that the lebanese gov’t didn’t help it during the course of history and seeked Iranian help who have done nothing but brought destructions to lebanon with their goals and ideology. So why is it okay for you to seek Iranian and Syrian help who have not helped lebanon at all? who is pushing lebanon and your community to war with israel? why do hezbollah members keep talking and threatening civil strife, blood and chaos? look before you leap and geagea at least now seeking peace and a good central gov’t that everyone he wants to follow. if that’s too much for you guys to handle, then i can say you only want war and destruction by the method and ways your favorite resistance is now doing and following..

  16. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Their heroes are criminals!!!!!!!!

    Are you talking about the same Samir Geagea who was tried for ordering four political assassinations, including the assassination of Lebanon’s Prime Minister Rashid Karami in 1987, and the unsuccessful attempted assassination of Defense Minister Michel Murr in 1991?He was convicted ,wasn’t He? Is that the same geagea who was trained and supported by Israel? Samir Geagea; the traitor?

    Correct me if I’m Wong. Is this the same samir Geagea who was suspected of bombing the Maronite Catholic church of Saydet Najat in Jounieh, in which tens of worshipers were killed in 1994?

    If I’m not mistaken;

    – Samir Geagea led an attack against Tony Farngieh, a prominent Christian leader of North Lebanon at his summer family house.

    Franjieh was killed along with dozens of supporters.

    – Lebanese Forces militia of which Geagea was a rising member at that point, participated in massacres against Palestinian refugees in camps in Beirut leaving more than a thousand casualties.

    – Geagea’s atrocities included murder, village destruction, displacing villagers, and execution of arrested citizens, massacring families, drug and weapon dealing, money laundering, and finally burying nuclear wastes in the mountains of his controlled region in exchange for cash. His crimes did not spare Muslims, Christians or Druze.

    On October 13, 1990, Samir Geagea’s militia supported with artillery bombing the Syrian invasion of Beirut, which led to the fall of the Lebanese Ministry of Defense and the Lebanese Presidential Palace. Along with the massacres committed against the Lebanese Armed Forces and civilians that day, Geagea’s militia celebrated with gun shots and fireworks the defeat of the Lebanese Armed Forces and subsequent Syrian control of Lebanon. A few days later, Geagea assassinated his main political opponent Dany Chamoun and his family.

    – 1984 – Assassination of Ghaith Khoury, a potential threat to his command position, outside a beach resort in the Byblos area. Khoury’s wife was injured and hospitalized. The wife was later shot on the operation table in the hospital.

    No single record can summarize Samir Geagea’s crimes against humanity. There is no way to include all the crimes against civilians; the raping, the destruction of houses over their residents, the beheading of civilians and throwing their bodies under bridges, throwing people alive in valleys from bridges, sinking people with concrete blocks in their feet, and destroying houses of worship on their attendees.

    There is no way to compile a record of all Geagea’s crimes.

    But to some people, He’s HERO.

    That is the stupidity of Lebanese people.

    Their heroes are criminals.

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      You are a typical Bla bla person with no facts, first under who Geagea was tried, by what government ,if Geagea was guilty of kIlling Danny Chamoun why then his brother Dory was there , you are liar and history twister , Geagea has nothing to do with Sabra and Chatila, even there is no offical indictment of the Lebanese forces as under International law the occupying force is the responsible for security ,that’s why Israel was accused, and if there is a leader who was accused it was Elie Hobeika and if you recall well he was assassinated weeks before he go to France and testify for the massacre , Tony Frangie died because of his drug dealing with the Syrians and go watch the Radio Canada Mark Bourque investigation about the Lebanese /Syrian drug lords in 1976-1978 and the investigation reveal that the Caln Frangie was the head of the drug leaders ring sending drugs to Canada and USA and the ring leader was Joseph Abizeid who was related to Frangie the Father , also they were preparing an assiantion of presiden Elias Sarkis with the Syrian and the Canadian /FBI intelligence warned the president Sarkis back then – just type Mark Bourque ,Filiere Libanaise de drogue”. Geagea agreed to Mouawad election and the mmentally retarded Aoun who was suppose to step down as all his duties was as temporary PM to make sure a president is elected was suppose to step down, and we could have avoided the Tatar/Syrian mongols intervention in Lebanon ,

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar

        Guss39,

        Margaret Weis’s famous quotation came to mind, after reading your denial .She said: ““Hope is the denial of reality”

        There is no point of arguing with you the facts about Geagea’s criminal record. His record is very well documented.

        People, like you, who have a sense of denial, are very selective about the realities they accept.

        I understand that human beings are often in denial about people they love.

        It usually happens to unsecure people like you, where security is the denial of life. Go on my friend, live in an illusion, and pretend you’re happy.

        Just remember that people, who deny their mistakes, or the mistakes of their loved ones, usually end up repeating the same mistakes, but at a higher cost to themselves, and to those they love.

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          Again Bla Bla, I gave you proof ,and talk from almost agreed on fact and you bring things from the Air , I am not fan of Geagea but what’s right is right, I am not tribal as you are and not a follower of anyone , but go ask any kid on the street in Lebanon who committed the crimes in Sabra and Chatila will tell you Israelis and Hobeika special forces men ( most of the Christians who committed the atrocities were relative to people massacred in Damour) Hobeika fiance family was from Damour . Geagea didn’t have reason and he wasn’t an important men back then in comparison to Hobeika the HK , Hobeika had personal , there is no way the HK men or Saad Haddad ( The isrealis where watching and prevented the Palestinians from leaving) could have entered the Camps intelligence without the Isrealis,t,Not even Arafat accused GEAGEA ,it is the first time I hear it , so be careful with your invention ,because are not idiots in the forum or ignorant .No one can denies the fact that Geagea accepted Mouawad as president and the mentally retarded refused, no one forgot how Aoun tried to scare the MP’s from going to Saudi Arabia to vote for a president . You have to remember that the LF never declared war on Syrian officially because only an idiot can do that , the LF was a defender and caused pain to the Syrians and prevented them from occupying the Christian area but was no match to the Syrian army. I don’t recall officially Geagea was accused of any slaughters other than the media said , Geagea when the Chouf war happened was under the leadership of Pierre Gemayel who should be held responsible for that when he delcared “Faltakoun al Maarak wi la yanteser al Akwa ” , that’s why we need now an STL because people like you and the Iranian party twist everything and talk to talk, .The Iranian party is saying the STL is going to accuse them , why ,how do they know ? and you are saying Geagea was tried , but as I said Dory Chamoun presence tell you that he didn’t commit the crime, foe me Danny was killed by the Syrian agents.As for Karame I think the Lebanese army intelligence took the opportunity to finish with him as he was the major factor in splitting the Lebanese army . ANYHOW WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT GEAGEA HE SERVED 15VYEARS FOR MAYBE CRIME HE COMMITTED MAYBE NOT WHO FROM THE OTHER POLITICANS WHO HAVE FULL BLOOD ON THEIR HAND WAS TRIED ,GEAGEA SERVED , HOW ABOUT WALID JOUMBALTT AND THE MASSACRE OF 350 INNOCENT CHRITIANS WHEN HIS FATHER DIED .HOW ABOUT THE PLO LEADERS AND THEIR KIDANPPING AND MURDERS OF INNOCENT,HOW ABOUT IBRAHIM KLEILAT ,HOW ABOUT AMAL AND ALI SAFWAN AND SO ON ,WHO ELSE FROM THE BLOOD THIRSTY POLITICANS WAS PUT ON TRIAL ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      to theProhet ,You are a typical Bla bla person with no facts, first under who Geagea was tried, by what government ?,if Geagea was guilty of kIlling Danny Chamoun why then his brother Dory was there , Heahea was never tried for Tony Frangie , and Soleiman Frangie was just on Kalem El Nes saying hoa Lahoud try to force him to press charges against him for killing his father and he rejected the Lahoud and the Syrian pressure and didn’t do it ,just go watch the interviiew .
      You are liar and history twister , Geagea has nothing to do with Sabra and Chatila, even there is no official indictment of the Lebanese forces as under International law the occupying force is the responsible for security ,( same with Hariri Killign the Syrian were in control of Lebanon ) that’s why Israel was accused, and if there is a leader who was accused it was Elie Hobeika and if you recall well he was assassinated weeks before he go to France and testify for the massacre , Tony Frangie died because of his drug dealing with the Syrians and go watch the Radio Canada Mark Bourque investigation about the Lebanese /Syrian drug lords in 1976-1978 and the investigation reveal that the Caln Frangie was the head of the drug leaders ring sending drugs to Canada and USA and the ring leader was Joseph Abizeid who was related to Frangie the Father , also they were preparing an assiantion of presiden Elias Sarkis with the Syrian and the Canadian /FBI intelligence warned the president Sarkis back then – just type Mark Bourque ,Filiere Libanaise de drogue”.
      Go Straighten yor fact because you lack a lot of reading and you are blinded with your hate , and it is not known what is your political views ,you are what we call in Arabic insen Mazbzab wa kil isa chekel” .
      Geagea agreed to Mouawad election and the mentally retarded Aoun who was suppose to step down as all his duties was as temporary PM to make sure a president is elected was suppose to step down, and we could have avoided the Tatar/Syrian mongols intervention in Lebanon , the american told Aoun to buzz after Mouawad was elected to avoid the fall of the Christian area and the entrance of the tatar ,alos US said they are busy with Saddam invasion of Kuwait and have no time for him. But the idiot pressed the LF and Geagea to side with him by refusing Mouawad and Taef and I quote what Aoun said “or yo are with me or with the taef” , this sick head until now want to be president ,Geagea was a bigger force military than Hezbollah and now we wouldn’t be in this situation and Mouawad would have been a good president ,
      Gegaea was tried at the hand of the Syrian agents in Lebanon and there is no proof, the proof of his innocence that Dory Chamoun is there and that hate of Dory to Aoun as the really who caused the killing of Danny Chamoun is Aounand his Harb el Tahriri.
      People like you and politican like you make Lebanon an impossible place to have democracy .you are not justice seeker but people full of lies and deceipt and woring for outsider and you are fanatic religious or hiding an agenda Liars!!!! fact twisters like your masters in Iran and Syria and Israel

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      Prophet Geagea there were never proof that Geagea bombed the church and many points at Syrians. There were no proof that he was behind Rashid Karami either. Syria bombed and killed many lebanese civialians and leaders yet you never criticized them. Geagea was not in charge of Sabra and Shatillah and it was Elie Hobeikah whom Hezbollah and Syria embraced. So what if he dealt with israel to save christians and save lebanon from Palestinians control? what didn’t the other militias and PLO groups were involved in many brutal killings and massacres? I am not saying Geagea is a Saint. But he did at least go to jail compare to no other leader who were indirectly responsible and gave Syrians and palestinians groups total control of lebanon. Who helped and tortured and killed 10’s of thousands of Lebanese.

      And why do you protect the assasin Moussawi who’s threatening blood and chaos by trying to evade the STL? You guys are so sure that Gegea did all this and yet he faced the court of justice and you guys are scared to face it obviously. Can you hear your fellow hezbollah threatening and beating the drums of war and terror in Lebanon. The palestininas tried to take over lebanon and there were killing lebanese. As much as hezbollah feels that the lebanese gov’t didn’t help it during the course of history and seeked Iranian help who have done nothing but brought destructions to lebanon with their goals and ideology. So why is it okay for you to seek Iranian and Syrian help who have not helped lebanon at all? who is pushing lebanon and your community to war with israel? why do hezbollah members keep talking and threatening civil strife, blood and chaos? look before you leap and geagea at least now seeking peace and a good central gov’t that everyone he wants to follow. if that’s too much for you guys to handle, then i can say you only want war and destruction by the method and ways your favorite resistance is now doing and following..

  17. You are a typical Bla bla person with no facts, first under who Geagea was tried, by what government ?,if Geagea was guilty of kIlling Danny Chamoun why then his brother Dory was there , Heahea was never tried for Tony Frangie , and Soleiman Frangie was just on Kalem El Nes saying hoa Lahoud try to force him to press charges against him for killing his father and he rejected the Lahoud and the Syrian pressure and didn’t do it ,just go watch the interviiew .
    You are liar and history twister , Geagea has nothing to do with Sabra and Chatila, even there is no official indictment of the Lebanese forces as under International law the occupying force is the responsible for security ,( same with Hariri Killign the Syrian were in control of Lebanon ) that’s why Israel was accused, and if there is a leader who was accused it was Elie Hobeika and if you recall well he was assassinated weeks before he go to France and testify for the massacre , Tony Frangie died because of his drug dealing with the Syrians and go watch the Radio Canada Mark Bourque investigation about the Lebanese /Syrian drug lords in 1976-1978 and the investigation reveal that the Caln Frangie was the head of the drug leaders ring sending drugs to Canada and USA and the ring leader was Joseph Abizeid who was related to Frangie the Father , also they were preparing an assiantion of presiden Elias Sarkis with the Syrian and the Canadian /FBI intelligence warned the president Sarkis back then – just type Mark Bourque ,Filiere Libanaise de drogue”.
    Go Straighten yor fact because you lack a lot of reading and you are blinded with your hate , and it is not known what is your political views ,you are what we call in Arabic insen Mazbzab wa kil isa chekel” .
    Geagea agreed to Mouawad election and the mentally retarded Aoun who was suppose to step down as all his duties was as temporary PM to make sure a president is elected was suppose to step down, and we could have avoided the Tatar/Syrian mongols intervention in Lebanon , the american told Aoun to buzz after Mouawad was elected to avoid the fall of the Christian area and the entrance of the tatar ,alos US said they are busy with Saddam invasion of Kuwait and have no time for him. But the idiot pressed the LF and Geagea to side with him by refusing Mouawad and Taef and I quote what Aoun said “or yo are with me or with the taef” , this sick head until now want to be president ,Geagea was a bigger force military than Hezbollah and now we wouldn’t be in this situation and Mouawad would have been a good president ,
    Gegaea was tried at the hand of the Syrian agents in Lebanon and there is no proof, the proof of his innocence that Dory Chamoun is there and that hate of Dory to Aoun as the really who caused the killing of Danny Chamoun is Aounand his Harb el Tahriri.
    People like you and politican like you make Lebanon an impossible place to have democracy .you are not justice seeker but people full of lies and deceipt and woring for outsider and you are fanatic religious or hiding an agenda Liars!!!! fact twisters like your masters in Iran and Syria and Israel

  18. You are a typical Bla bla person with no facts, first under who Geagea was tried, by what government ?,if Geagea was guilty of kIlling Danny Chamoun why then his brother Dory was there , Heahea was never tried for Tony Frangie , and Soleiman Frangie was just on Kalem El Nes saying hoa Lahoud try to force him to press charges against him for killing his father and he rejected the Lahoud and the Syrian pressure and didn’t do it ,just go watch the interviiew .
    You are liar and history twister , Geagea has nothing to do with Sabra and Chatila, even there is no official indictment of the Lebanese forces as under International law the occupying force is the responsible for security ,( same with Hariri Killign the Syrian were in control of Lebanon ) that’s why Israel was accused, and if there is a leader who was accused it was Elie Hobeika and if you recall well he was assassinated weeks before he go to France and testify for the massacre , Tony Frangie died because of his drug dealing with the Syrians and go watch the Radio Canada Mark Bourque investigation about the Lebanese /Syrian drug lords in 1976-1978 and the investigation reveal that the Caln Frangie was the head of the drug leaders ring sending drugs to Canada and USA and the ring leader was Joseph Abizeid who was related to Frangie the Father , also they were preparing an assiantion of presiden Elias Sarkis with the Syrian and the Canadian /FBI intelligence warned the president Sarkis back then – just type Mark Bourque ,Filiere Libanaise de drogue”.
    Go Straighten yor fact because you lack a lot of reading and you are blinded with your hate , and it is not known what is your political views ,you are what we call in Arabic insen Mazbzab wa kil isa chekel” .
    Geagea agreed to Mouawad election and the mentally retarded Aoun who was suppose to step down as all his duties was as temporary PM to make sure a president is elected was suppose to step down, and we could have avoided the Tatar/Syrian mongols intervention in Lebanon , the american told Aoun to buzz after Mouawad was elected to avoid the fall of the Christian area and the entrance of the tatar ,alos US said they are busy with Saddam invasion of Kuwait and have no time for him. But the idiot pressed the LF and Geagea to side with him by refusing Mouawad and Taef and I quote what Aoun said “or yo are with me or with the taef” , this sick head until now want to be president ,Geagea was a bigger force military than Hezbollah and now we wouldn’t be in this situation and Mouawad would have been a good president ,
    Gegaea was tried at the hand of the Syrian agents in Lebanon and there is no proof, the proof of his innocence that Dory Chamoun is there and that hate of Dory to Aoun as the really who caused the killing of Danny Chamoun is Aounand his Harb el Tahriri.
    People like you and politican like you make Lebanon an impossible place to have democracy .you are not justice seeker but people full of lies and deceipt and woring for outsider and you are fanatic religious or hiding an agenda Liars!!!! fact twisters like your masters in Iran and Syria and Israel

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    You are a typical Bla bla person with no facts, first under who Geagea was tried, by what government ?,if Geagea was guilty of kIlling Danny Chamoun why then his brother Dory was there , Heahea was never tried for Tony Frangie , and Soleiman Frangie was just on Kalem El Nes saying hoa Lahoud try to force him to press charges against him for killing his father and he rejected the Lahoud and the Syrian pressure and didn’t do it ,just go watch the interviiew .
    You are liar and history twister , Geagea has nothing to do with Sabra and Chatila, even there is no official indictment of the Lebanese forces as under International law the occupying force is the responsible for security ,( same with Hariri Killign the Syrian were in control of Lebanon ) that’s why Israel was accused, and if there is a leader who was accused it was Elie Hobeika and if you recall well he was assassinated weeks before he go to France and testify for the massacre , Tony Frangie died because of his drug dealing with the Syrians and go watch the Radio Canada Mark Bourque investigation about the Lebanese /Syrian drug lords in 1976-1978 and the investigation reveal that the Caln Frangie was the head of the drug leaders ring sending drugs to Canada and USA and the ring leader was Joseph Abizeid who was related to Frangie the Father , also they were preparing an assiantion of presiden Elias Sarkis with the Syrian and the Canadian /FBI intelligence warned the president Sarkis back then – just type Mark Bourque ,Filiere Libanaise de drogue”.
    Go Straighten yor fact because you lack a lot of reading and you are blinded with your hate , and it is not known what is your political views ,you are what we call in Arabic insen Mazbzab wa kil isa chekel” .
    Geagea agreed to Mouawad election and the mentally retarded Aoun who was suppose to step down as all his duties was as temporary PM to make sure a president is elected was suppose to step down, and we could have avoided the Tatar/Syrian mongols intervention in Lebanon , the american told Aoun to buzz after Mouawad was elected to avoid the fall of the Christian area and the entrance of the tatar ,alos US said they are busy with Saddam invasion of Kuwait and have no time for him. But the idiot pressed the LF and Geagea to side with him by refusing Mouawad and Taef and I quote what Aoun said “or yo are with me or with the taef” , this sick head until now want to be president ,Geagea was a bigger force military than Hezbollah and now we wouldn’t be in this situation and Mouawad would have been a good president ,
    Gegaea was tried at the hand of the Syrian agents in Lebanon and there is no proof, the proof of his innocence that Dory Chamoun is there and that hate of Dory to Aoun as the really who caused the killing of Danny Chamoun is Aounand his Harb el Tahriri.
    People like you and politican like you make Lebanon an impossible place to have democracy .you are not justice seeker but people full of lies and deceipt and woring for outsider and you are fanatic religious or hiding an agenda Liars!!!! fact twisters like your masters in Iran and Syria and Israel

  20. josephphd Avatar

    to the prophet: the prohet sallah allaho aliehe wa sasallam he was just and fair and wholy but you do,nt deserve this name ;you should change your name because you are a lier and bullshitter
    all this story was fabrication against the hero geagea there was no witness there was no proof that he commited all these crimes and he did not even have a trial it was a conspiracy against him and againt all the other lebaneese ;as far as the phalestinians invaders you can,nt call that massacre those people came in to lebanon with weapeons and they were killing all ilebaneese civilians including muslims christians and shia,s ;so it was a self defense so you should thank him for defending lebanon sovreignity and defending your ass other wise you would have no state now and you be homeless maybe that what you deserve to be homeless ungretfull mf -sob like you
    another issue all those assasinations against the lebaneese politicians were conducted by the syrians secret services was part of the conspiracy to occupuy lebanon and finanally succeeded after they found so many trators like you to conspire with them againt the interrest of their own state now they may say well geogea use other countries to help liberate lebanon from the phalestinians invaders but he is considerd a hero
    because he has always place the interrest of lebanon first unlike you are a big trator because you do,nt have the interrest of lebanon first you are placing the interrest of all invaders first phalestinias ,persians etc… or whoever you are an ennemy of the state and the lebaneese people ; you should proud and pray that lebanon will have more heros like geogea and all lebaneese become like him and place lebanon interrest first regardless of their faith or their political believes

    1. To Josephphd,

      Geagea and many politicians like him are no heroes, a hero doesn’t have the blood of the innicent on his hands. Innocennce has no identity wether it was Leb. Civilian or a Palestiniane refugee it is called innocence.

      Geagea has committed lots of crimes of political nature/purposes, now unless you have evidence to prove to the world that he didn’t I would suggest resting your case as truley you are convincing no one theat Geagea was inncoent of the blood of thousands on his hands.

      I agree with you on one thing though, Geagea was not the only one and there several others that deserve to be trialed.

      By the way for the murders like the ones committed by Geagea and his likes, prison is unfair cause they deserve to be hanged for good.

      Do you call a person who kills in cold blood a Human Being and a Patriot (Hero)?

      We truly live in a very disturbed country where the hero of some is a criminal for MANY OTHERS.

      Just for your info. Late Rafic Hariri once said and it is on tape:’ Geagea will leave prison only over my dead body’ ……AND HE DID eventually. This shows and proves that even Rafic Hariri believed that Geagea is a criminal of war.

      Geagea is out for strictly political reasons not because he is innocent

      1. most likely a Aoun follower you are and seeing with one eye, Hezbollah, Amal , Marada ,Kateb , Morabitoun leaders all should stand a trial not only Geagea, Aoun should be executed as he broke the constitution when he exceedd his duty as prim minister and should have stepped down from the office when Mouawad was dead, he should be executed because he run away and he didnt tell the soldiers defending him he’s running away to gain time to reach the embassy, and this Hariri thing about Geagea most likely is your invention or someone else, Hariri had no business with Geagea att all!!!
        Geagea was released by Pardon , so if you accepted his guilt by a crooked corrupted judges ,you should accept his pardon by the higher authority which is the president and the parliament , you and the prophet are people one sided going by your emotional and tribal feeling , as the Iranian party, once you develop the obedience to the law and constitution you become worthy of being called citizen for any country not only Lebanon , as it is now it is Somalia law in Lebanon and you are contributing to it!!!!!

        1. GUSS39,

          I have already mentioned that Gegea and so many others like the parties you have mentioned should have stood trial and put to death even, so I am not looking in one eye.

          As for Geagea pardon it was a political decision and doesn’t mean in any way that he is innocent. You need to understand ehat the word PARDON means in LAW.

          High political figures are put in Jail or Pardoned by higher external authorities than our past or even current goverments….does that make our judjes corrupt???? I would say powerless not corrupt

        2. GUSS39,

          I have already mentioned that Gegea and so many others like the parties you have mentioned should have stood trial and put to death even, so I am not looking in one eye.

          As for Geagea pardon it was a political decision and doesn’t mean in any way that he is innocent. You need to understand ehat the word PARDON means in LAW.

          High political figures are put in Jail or Pardoned by higher external authorities than our past or even current goverments….does that make our judjes corrupt???? I would say powerless not corrupt

    2. PROPHET.T Avatar

      Joseph,
      Using your own words,
      “The definition of traitors is when a group of people place the interest of foreign countries before the interest of there own state and that apply to the Lebanese forces , and to the Phalange party because they place the Israeli interest above the state interest of Lebanon”
      The phalange and the LF were the first to put the interest of foreign country ahead of the interest of Lebanon. Two Lebanese presidents rode Israeli tanks to the presidential palace.
      Bashir and Amin Gemayle helped the Israeli enemy before, during, and after the Israeli invasion of 82.
      When Israel invaded Lebanon in 1978, LF and the Phalange were sending fighters from the north to the south to control what was known as “the security zone” so they can help Israel control the area.
      Those fighters were sent by Bashir himself. They killed many people, imprisoned many others. Was that part of “building a strong Lebanon”? Who are you kidding?
      You want to talk about traitors? Here they are basher, Geagea, Amin.
      Not only they murdered Lebanese and Palestinians, but they helped Israel kill our people.
      Gone are those days, and never will true and patriotic Lebanese, allow those days to return

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    to the prophet: the prohet sallah allaho aliehe wa sasallam he was just and fair and wholy but you do,nt deserve this name ;you should your name because you are a lier and bullshitter

    all this story was fabrication against the hero geagea there was no witness there was no proof that he commited all these crimes and he did not even have a trial it was a cospiracy against him and againt all the other lebaneese ;as far as the phalestinians invaders you can,nt call that massacre those people came in to lebanon with weapeons and there killing all innocent civilians including muslims christians and shia,s ;so it was a self defense so you should thank him for defending lebanon sovreignity and defending your ass other wise you would have no state now and you be homeless maybe that what you deserve to be homeless ungretfull mf like you

    another issue all those assasinations against the lebaneese politicians were conducted by the syrians secret services was part of the conspiracy to occupuy lebanon and finanall succeeded after the found so many trators like you to conspire with them againt the interrest of their own state now they may say well geogea use other countries to help liberate lebanon from the phalestinians invaders but he is considerd a hero

    because he has always place the interrest of lebanon first unlike you are a big trator because you do,nt have the interrest of lebanon first you are placing the interrest of all invaders first phalestinias ,persians etc… or whoever you are an ennemy of the state and the lebaneese people

    1. To Josephphd,

      Geagea and many politicians like him are no heroes, a hero doesn’t have the blood of the innicent on his hands. Innocennce has no identity wether it was Leb. Civilian or a Palestiniane refugee it is called innocence.

      Geagea has committed lots of crimes of political nature/purposes, now unless you have evidence to prove to the world that he didn’t I would suggest resting your case as truley you are convincing no one theat Geagea was inncoent of the blood of thousands on his hands.

      I agree with you on one thing though, Geagea was not the only one and there several others that deserve to be trialed.

      By the way for the murders like the ones committed by Geagea and his likes, prison is unfair cause they deserve to be hanged for good.

      Do you call a person who kills in cold blood a Human Being and a Patriot (Hero)?

      We truly live in a very disturbed country where the hero of some is a criminal for MANY OTHERS.

      Just for your info. Late Rafic Hariri once said and it is on tape:’ Geagea will leave prison only over my dead body’ ……AND HE DID eventually. This shows and proves that even Rafic Hariri believed that Geagea is a criminal of war.

      Geagea is out for strictly political reasons not because he is innocent

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        most likely a Aoun follower you are and seeing with one eye, Hezbollah, Amal , Marada ,Kateb , Morabitoun leaders all should stand a trial not only Geagea, Aoun should be executed as he broke the constitution when he exceedd his duty as prim minister and should have stepped down from the office when Mouawad was dead, he should be executed because he run away and he didnt tell the soldiers defending him he’s running away to gain time to reach the embassy, and this Hariri thing about Geagea most likely is your invention or someone else, Hariri had no business with Geagea att all!!!
        Geagea was released by Pardon , so if you accepted his guilt by a crooked corrupted judges ,you should accept his pardon by the higher authority which is the president and the parliament , you and the prophet are people one sided going by your emotional and tribal feeling , as the Iranian party, once you develop the obedience to the law and constitution you become worthy of being called citizen for any country not only Lebanon , as it is now it is Somalia law in Lebanon and you are contributing to it!!!!!

        1. GUSS39,

          I have already mentioned that Gegea and so many others like the parties you have mentioned should have stood trial and put to death even, so I am not looking in one eye.

          As for Geagea pardon it was a political decision and doesn’t mean in any way that he is innocent. You need to understand ehat the word PARDON means in LAW.

          High political figures are put in Jail or Pardoned by higher external authorities than our past or even current goverments….does that make our judjes corrupt???? I would say powerless not corrupt

    2. PROPHET.T Avatar

      Joseph,

      Using your own words,

      “The definition of traitors is when a group of people place the interest of foreign countries before the interest of there own state and that apply to ha because they place the Israeli interest above the state interest of Lebanon”

      The phalange and the LF were the first to put the interest of foreign country ahead of the interest of Lebanon. Two Lebanese presidents rode Israeli tanks to the presidential palace.

      Bashir and Amin Gemayle helped the Israeli enemy before, during, and after the Israeli invasion of 82.

      When Israel invaded Lebanon in 1978, LF and the Phalange were sending fighters from the north to the south to control what was known as “the security zone” so they can help Israel control the area.

      Those fighters were sent by Bashir himself. They killed many people, imprisoned many others. Was that part of “building a strong Lebanon”? Who are you kidding?

      You want to talk about traitors? Here they are basher, Geagea, Amin.

      Not only they murdered Lebanese and Palestinians, but they helped Israel kill our people.

      Gone are those days, and never will true and patriotic Lebanese, allow those days to return

  22. josephphd Avatar

    to jad
    it was a war against the invaders the civilians were never targeted they died in beteween from both sides geoega was a hero he never intented to kill innocent civilians it was all lies and fabrications agaist him because he refuse to work for syria and put syria interrest above the interrest of lebanon
    now about rafik harriri he was a good man and i am sure he is in haven now but the same people who lied to him and the told him that geogea was bad are the same people that put geogea in jail and the same people has ended up killing our beloved rafik harriri because he wanted the same thing that geogea wanted is to through them out of lebanon when he found out there truth and there lies so mp rafik harriri he was also a true hero and lebanon owe him respect for ever
    now about you jad it looks like you are a trator because you are placing the interrest of foreigners and invaders above the interrest of your own country
    that is the reason you are trying to spread rumors aginst heros and true citizens to ruin there image because you are the ennemy of the state you are the trators the state should place you under arrest and investigate you

    1. man cut the crape and stop defending this cold blooded criminal, who do you think your fooling me or the rest of the Lebanese.

      You can call me a trator as much as you want, I have no respect to politics in Lebanon from both sides March 8 or 14, if that makes me a traitor so be it,

      If me calling people like Geagea NO HEROES makes me a traitor then so be it.

      But don’t dare you or anyone else try to make heros out of criminals of war and expect me or any honest man to buy your crap because we are afraid to be called TRAITORS.

    2. man cut the crape and stop defending this cold blooded criminal, who do you think your fooling me or the rest of the Lebanese.

      You can call me a trator as much as you want, I have no respect to politics in Lebanon from both sides March 8 or 14, if that makes me a traitor so be it,

      If me calling people like Geagea NO HEROES makes me a traitor then so be it.

      But don’t dare you or anyone else try to make heros out of criminals of war and expect me or any honest man to buy your crap because we are afraid to be called TRAITORS.

    3. Hariri the father was a man that could not be easily fooled by entire countries you think he could have beeen fooled that Geagea is a criminal if he truley weren’t, you disrespect late Rafic Harir by saying that the people around him convinced him that Geagea is a criminal…you think Rafic Hariri was naive…

    4. Hariri the father was a man that could not be easily fooled by entire countries you think he could have beeen fooled that Geagea is a criminal if he truley weren’t, you disrespect late Rafic Harir by saying that the people around him convinced him that Geagea is a criminal…you think Rafic Hariri was naive…

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    to jad

    it was a war against the invaders the civilians were never targeted they died in beteween from both sides geoega was a hero he never intented to kill innocent civilians it was all lies and fabrications agaist him because he refuse to work for syria and put syria interrest above the interrest of lebanon

    now about rafik harriri he was a good man and i am sure he is in haven now but the same people who lied to him and the told him that geogea was bad are the same people that put geogea in jail and the same people has ended up killing our beloved rafik harriri because he wanted the same thing that geogea wanted is to through them out of lebanon when he found out there truth and there lies so mp rafik harriri he was also a true hero and lebanon owe him respect for ever

    now about you jad it looks like you are a trator because you are placing the interrest of foreiners and invaders above the interrest of your own country

    that is the reaso you are trying to spread rumors aginst heros and true citizens of your own state you are the trators the state should place under arrest or deport you from the country

    1. man cut the crape and stop defending this cold blooded criminal, who do you think your fooling me or the rest of the Lebanese.

      You can call me a trator as much as you want, I have no respect to politics in Lebanon from both sides March 8 or 14, if that makes me a traitor so be it,

      If me calling people like Geagea NO HEROES makes me a traitor then so be it.

      But don’t dare you or anyone else try to make heros out of criminals of war and expect me or any honest man to buy your crap because we are afraid to be called TRAITORS.

    2. Hariri the father was a man that could not be easily fooled by entire countries you think he could have beeen fooled that Geagea is a criminal if he truley weren’t, you disrespect late Rafic Harir by saying that the people around him convinced him that Geagea is a criminal…you think Rafic Hariri was naive…

  24. josephphd Avatar

    by the way mr trator jad
    why do,nt you talk about the dammour massacre where those criminals invadors partners of your trators team the so called innocent phalestinians when the attacked that helpless and defenless lebaneese town and have murdered raped and killed 2000 defenseless helpless lebaneese people women and children with the most cold blood in history god send those criminals to hell and any one that harbor them
    i hope you try to help some poor people some day you bring them to your home so you can feed them and they pull out a kinfe on you and they stab you and see how you feel trator
    i hope you try to help some

    1. those were not my people

  25.  Avatar

    by the way mr trator jad

    why do,nt you talk about the dammour massacre where those criminals invadors partners of your trators team the so called innocent phalestinians when the attacked that helpless and defenless lebaneese town and have murdered raped and killed 2000 defenseless helpless lebaneese people women and children with the most cold blood in history god send those criminals to hell and any one that harbor them

    i hope you try to help some poor people some day you bring them to your home so you can feed them and they pull out a kinfe on you and they stab you and see how you feel trator

    i hope you try to help some

    1. those were not my people

  26. PROPHET.T Avatar

    All Lebanese suffer from this sickness of worshiping leaders.
    I’m amused by those who insist on denying Geagea’s crimes. I find it useless to respond to those who resort to insults and personal attacks, when they are faced with realities they can’t accept.
    All of a sudden they demand proof of Geagea’s involvement in murdering Karami or Freanjeieh. Don’t they know that he was convicted in court for arranging the assassination of Karami? Where do they live?
    Those people will never be convinced of their beloved leaders’ crimes. If denial gives you happiness and hope, then deny as much as you need to.

    1. Prophet.T. Your writing gives the impression that you are an articulate and intelegent person. However when somone like ghaddad presents you with facts and and accurate time line of events you resort to the same memorised lines and rhetoric that your masters (HA) have implanted in your head. you seem to have tunnel vision and only see the debate from one side. Where was the resistance when lebanon was occupied by the syrians for 30 years, or don’t they think syria is a seperate state and country.

  27. PROPHET.T Avatar

    All Lebanese suffer from this sickness of worshiping leaders.

    I’m amused by those who insist on denying Geagea’s crimes. I find it useless to respond to those who resort to insults and personal attacks, when they are faced with realities they can’t accept.

    All of a sudden they demand proof of Geagea’s involvement in murdering Karami or Freanjeieh. Don’t they know that he was convicted in court for arranging the assassination of Karami? Where do they live?

    Those people will never be convinced of their beloved leaders’ crimes. If denial gives you happiness and hope, then deny as much as you need to.

    1.  Avatar

      Prophet.T. Your writing gives the impression that you are an articulate and intelegent person. However when somone like ghaddad presents you with facts and and accurate time line of events you resort to the same memorised lines and rhetoric that your masters (HA) have implanted in your head. you seem to have tunnel vision and only see the debate from one side. Where was the resistance when lebanon was occupied by the syrians for 30 years, or don’t they think syria is a seperate state and country.

  28. For those who are harboring in the past then you should also look at the present and the criminals who are killing people in every day. The criminals who are using the arms to control and intimidate lebanese every day. The criminals who are controlling lebanon and thumbing their fingers at every free lebanese and challenging the authority on daily basis. As much as we want to see proofs of Karami and Franjiah and other bombings you claim Geagea did. We like you to show us where hezbollah is not responsible for killing Hariri and 18 good people that went down with him. I like you to prove their innocence of not killing Pierre G. and Gibran tueni, Walid Eido, Colonel Wisam, Samir Kassir and Ghanem and many others. I like you to prove to me otherwise those went to the streets of Beirut in 2008 and killed innocent civilians? or the so called resistance fighhters who hide behind the school children of Qana not once, not twice but three times in order to get the israelis to shoot at the tragets where guns were fired.. Stop picking and choosing who’s a criminal and who’s isn’t. You want to convict Geagea i say fine. But let’s start recently of Nassrallah, and many top Hezbollah leaders. Let’s start with Jamil Al Syyed and walid jumlatt too. What about Aoun and Franjieh and if you’re okay to put these criminals in jail then I say let’s be fair and put geageo too. Otherwise you have no rights to pick and choose again the war criminals. At least those who you’re criminals are at least seeking peace. Unlike the criminals who you currently trying to protect in the name of the resistance.

  29.  Avatar

    For those who are harboring in the past then you should also look at the present and the criminals who are killing people in every day. The criminals who are using the arms to control and intimidate lebanese every day. The criminals who are controlling lebanon and thumbing their fingers at every free lebanese and challenging the authority on daily basis. As much as we want to see proofs of Karami and Franjiah and other bombings you claim Geagea did. We like you to show us where hezbollah is not responsible for killing Hariri and 18 good people that went down with him. I like you to prove their innocence of not killing Pierre G. and Gibran tueni, Walid Eido, Colonel Wisam, Samir Kassir and Ghanem and many others. I like you to prove to me otherwise those went to the streets of Beirut in 2008 and killed innocent civilians? or the so called resistance fighhters who hide behind the school children of Qana not once, not twice but three times in order to get the israelis to shoot at the tragets where guns were fired.. Stop picking and choosing who’s a criminal and who’s isn’t. You want to convict Geagea i say fine. But let’s start recently of Nassrallah, and many top Hezbollah leaders. Let’s start with Jamil Al Syyed and walid jumlatt too. What about Aoun and Franjieh and if you’re okay to put these criminals in jail then I say let’s be fair and put geageo too. Otherwise you have no rights to pick and choose again the war criminals. At least those who you’re criminals are at least seeking peace. Unlike the criminals who you currently trying to protect in the name of the resistance.

  30. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Charles James Fox’s famous quote describes this analogy best. “He that is conscious of guilt cannot bear the innocence of others: So they will try to reduce all others to their own level.”
    I discuss facts and evidence, not fiction. I don’t need to prove anyone’s innocence.
    I didn’t convict Geagea of his crimes, the Lebanese justice system did. The orphans he killed their parents did.
    The innocent victims who are screaming from under their graves convicted him. The people who were displaced by his terror machine did. The wars he led, which were watched by millions on TV, convicted him.
    I discuss facts and evidence, not fiction. I don’t need to prove anyone’s innocence.
    Just because Geagea is a convicted criminal, doesn’t require me to prove HA innocence. There is no case to discuss here.
    The murder cases of Hariri, and the murder cases of the others, have yet to be made. When or if the STL cleans up its mess and regains its reputation, then and only then, one can study the facts presented in any indictment. The STL and the Lebanese justice system have to deal with the false witnesses, and those who protected, and financed them. Anyone who misleads investigations must know something about the crime being investigated. People don’t just decide to mislead an investigation, as important as the investigation of Hariri assassination, for the fun of it.
    All speculations, and accusations we read about, are nothing but speculations, political accusations, and rumors. I think we’ve had enough political and false accusations during the last 5 years against Syria, and others.
    Justice denied anywhere diminishes justice everywhere
    As for the resistance, it never required your permission to resist and liberate. There was never a consensus on the resistance to begin with. When your heroes were fighting along side the Israelis, The resistance took it upon itself to resist, and fight the Israeli occupation. Unless you suggest that the resistance had to wait for a national consensus to defend the sovereignty of Lebanon, when some were fellow Lebanese were on the Israeli side?
    It’s a good idea that Geagea seeks peace, because Him, and his supporters are in no moral ,or historical position to even mention the word resistance, let alone deciding who is a true resistance and who isn’t. We accepted them after the Taif agreement ,and they should be lucky their victims are forgiven.
    As for the all the other warlords including Berri, and jumblat, deserve to be tried for all of their crimes against Lebanese. They are as much criminal as Gegea , Bashir and Amin. One diffrence is that Berii and Jumblat were not traitors, but the others were.

  31. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Charles James Fox’s famous quote describes this analogy best. “He that is conscious of guilt cannot bear the innocence of others: So they will try to reduce all others to their own level.”

    I discuss facts and evidence, not fiction. I don’t need to prove anyone’s innocence.

    I didn’t convict Geagea of his crimes, the Lebanese justice system did. The orphans he killed their parents did.

    The innocent victims who are screaming from under their graves convicted him. The people who were displaced by his terror machine did. The wars he led, which were watched by millions on TV, convicted him.

    I discuss facts and evidence, not fiction. I don’t need to prove anyone’s innocence.

    Just because Geagea is a convicted criminal, doesn’t require me to prove HA innocence. There is no case to discuss here.

    The murder cases of Hariri, and the murder cases of the others, have yet to be made. When or if the STL cleans up its mess and regains its reputation, then and only then, one can study the facts presented in any indictment. The STL and the Lebanese justice system have to deal with the false witnesses, and those who protected, and financed them. Anyone who misleads investigations must know something about the crime being investigated. People don’t just decide to mislead an investigation, as important as the investigation of Hariri assassination, for the fun of it.

    All speculations and accusations we read about, are nothing but speculations, political accusations, and rumors. I think we’ve had enough political and false accusations during the last 5 years against Syria, and others.

    Justice denied anywhere diminishes justice everywhere

    As for the resistance, it never required your permission to resist and liberate. There was never a consensus on the resistance to begin with. When your heroes were fighting along side the Israelis, The resistance took it upon itself to resist, and fight the Israeli occupation. Unless you suggest that the resistance had to wait for a national consensus to defend the sovereignty of Lebanon, when some were fellow Lebanese were on the Israeli side?

    It’s a good idea that Geagea seeks peace, because Him, and his supporters are in no moral ,or historical position to even mention the word resistance, let alone deciding who is a true resistance and who isn’t. We accepted them after the Taif agreement ,and they should be lucky their victims are forgiven.

    As for the all the other warlords including Berri, and jumblat, deserve to be tried for all of their crimes against Lebanese. They are as much criminal as Gegea , Bashir and Amin. One diffrence is that Berii and Jumblat were not traitors, but the others were.

  32. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Charles James Fox’s famous quote describes this analogy best. “He that is conscious of guilt cannot bear the innocence of others: So they will try to reduce all others to their own level.”

    I discuss facts and evidence, not fiction. I don’t need to prove anyone’s innocence.

    I didn’t convict Geagea of his crimes, the Lebanese justice system did. The orphans he killed their parents did.

    The innocent victims who are screaming from under their graves convicted him. The people who were displaced by his terror machine did. The wars he led, which were watched by millions on TV, convicted him.

    I discuss facts and evidence, not fiction. I don’t need to prove anyone’s innocence.

    Just because Geagea is a convicted criminal, doesn’t require me to prove HA innocence. There is no case to discuss here.

    The murder cases of Hariri, and the murder cases of the others, have yet to be made. When or if the STL cleans up its mess and regains its reputation, then and only then, one can study the facts presented in any indictment. The STL and the Lebanese justice system have to deal with the false witnesses, and those who protected, and financed them. Anyone who misleads investigations must know something about the crime being investigated. People don’t just decide to mislead an investigation, as important as the investigation of Hariri assassination, for the fun of it.

    All speculations, and accusations we read about, are nothing but speculations, political accusations, and rumors. I think we’ve had enough political and false accusations during the last 5 years against Syria, and others.

    Justice denied anywhere diminishes justice everywhere

    As for the resistance, it never required your permission to resist and liberate. There was never a consensus on the resistance to begin with. When your heroes were fighting along side the Israelis, The resistance took it upon itself to resist, and fight the Israeli occupation. Unless you suggest that the resistance had to wait for a national consensus to defend the sovereignty of Lebanon, when some were fellow Lebanese were on the Israeli side?

    It’s a good idea that Geagea seeks peace, because Him, and his supporters are in no moral ,or historical position to even mention the word resistance, let alone deciding who is a true resistance and who isn’t. We accepted them after the Taif agreement ,and they should be lucky their victims are forgiven.

    As for the all the other warlords including Berri, and jumblat, deserve to be tried for all of their crimes against Lebanese. They are as much criminal as Gegea , Bashir and Amin. One diffrence is that Berii and Jumblat were not traitors, but the others were.

  33. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Charles James Fox’s famous quote describes this analogy best. “He that is conscious of guilt cannot bear the innocence of others: So they will try to reduce all others to their own level.”

    I discuss facts and evidence, not fiction. I don’t need to prove anyone’s innocence.

    I didn’t convict Geagea of his crimes, the Lebanese justice system did. The orphans he killed their parents did.

    The innocent victims who are screaming from under their graves convicted him. The people who were displaced by his terror machine did. The wars he led, which were watched by millions on TV, convicted him.

    I discuss facts and evidence, not fiction. I don’t need to prove anyone’s innocence.

    Just because Geagea is a convicted criminal, doesn’t require me to prove HA innocence. There is no case to discuss here.

    The murder cases of Hariri, and the murder cases of the others, have yet to be made. When or if the STL cleans up its mess and regains its reputation, then and only then, one can study the facts presented in any indictment. The STL and the Lebanese justice system have to deal with the false witnesses, and those who protected, and financed them. Anyone who misleads investigations must know something about the crime being investigated. People don’t just decide to mislead an investigation, as important as the investigation of Hariri assassination, for the fun of it.

    All speculations, and accusations we read about, are nothing but speculations, political accusations, and rumors. I think we’ve had enough political and false accusations during the last 5 years against Syria, and others.

    Justice denied anywhere diminishes justice everywhere

    As for the resistance, it never required your permission to resist and liberate. There was never a consensus on the resistance to begin with. When your heroes were fighting along side the Israelis, The resistance took it upon itself to resist, and fight the Israeli occupation. Unless you suggest that the resistance had to wait for a national consensus to defend the sovereignty of Lebanon, when some were fellow Lebanese were on the Israeli side?

    It’s a good idea that Geagea seeks peace, because Him, and his supporters are in no moral ,or historical position to even mention the word resistance, let alone deciding who is a true resistance and who isn’t. We accepted them after the Taif agreement ,and they should be lucky their victims are forgiven.

    As for the all the other warlords including Berri, and jumblat, deserve to be tried for all of their crimes against Lebanese. They are as much criminal as Gegea , Bashir and Amin. One diffrence is that Berii and Jumblat were not traitors, but the others were.

  34. josephphd Avatar

    MR JAD
    I COME FROM DEMOCRACY THE SUSPECT IS INNOCENT T,LL YOU PROVE GUILTY
    YOU HAVE ASSUMED MR GEAGEA THAT HE IS A CRIMINAL >>>
    YOU HAVE NOT TAKEN HIM TO COURT YOU DO,NT HAVE A PROVE YOU DO,NT HAVE WITNESSES YOU JUST ANOTHER IDIOT MIDDLEEASTERN THAT LIVE IN THE BARBERICK LAWS AND THE JUNGLE LAWS
    AS FAR AS PM HARRIRI IF YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH(DOUGH!!!!!!!!!) YOU CAN READ THAT I SAID THAT I HAVE ALL THE RESPECT FOR HIM AND I BELIEVE HE WAS A HERO ;SO DO,NT PUT WORD IN MY MOUTH AND LIE ON MY BEHALF YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER ARABIC LIER
    AS FAR AS YOUR NAME JADM IT FITS JUST FINE WHERE THE M STAND FOR MORAN…..

    1. I feel sorry for you Joseph, you don’t even have the curtousy to reply in a civilized way without calling people names and attempt to throwing insults back at their faces.

      Unless you are completely insane then you wouldn’t say Geagea is innocent, so I will not try to reason with you cause you ain’t worth the trouble….funnily enough Geagea closest followers doesn’t hesitate to brag about the massacres his boss has committed in earlier years as if it was an act of heroism whereby it was an act of a coward and a cold blooded criminal who even had the atrocity to kill people in a church.

      As for Hariri, Hariri the father didn’t want to have anything to do with Geagea and he held no respect for him or his likes. It is true he was a well respected man…to well respected to bother and look or shake hands with Geagea…too bad his son isn’t like him

      1. josephphd Avatar

        THEN AGAIN IN DEMOCRACY ALL SUSPECT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN THE COURT OF LAW
        NO ONE IS GUILTY BASED ON STORIES AND RUMORS AND HE SAID SHE SAID HARD EVIDENCE AND PROVE NEED TO BE PRESENTED TO COURT DURING TRIAL THE FACT THAT NEVER HAPPENED I WILL NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAY OF YOUR ACCUSATIONS AND STORIES

  35. josephphd Avatar

    MR JAD
    I COME FROM DEMOCRACY THE SUSPECT IS INNOCENT T,LL YOU PROVE GUILTY
    YOU HAVE ASSUMED MR GEAGEA THAT HE IS A CRIMINAL >>>
    YOU HAVE NOT TAKEN HIM TO COURT YOU DO,NT HAVE A PROVE YOU DO,NT HAVE WITNESSES YOU JUST ANOTHER IDIOT MIDDLEEASTERN THAT LIVE IN THE BARBERICK LAWS AND THE JUNGLE LAWS
    AS FAR AS PM HARRIRI IF YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH(DOUGH!!!!!!!!!) YOU CAN READ THAT I SAID THAT I HAVE ALL THE RESPECT FOR HIM AND I BELIEVE HE WAS A HERO ;SO DO,NT PUT WORD IN MY MOUTH AND LIE ON MY BEHALF YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER ARABIC LIER
    AS FAR AS YOUR NAME JADM IT FITS JUST FINE WHERE THE M STAND FOR MORAN…..

  36.  Avatar

    MR JAD

    I COME FROM DEMOCRACY THE SUSPECT IS INNOCENT T,LL YOU PROVE GUILTY

    YOU HAVE ASSUMED MR GEAGEA THAT HE IS A CRIMINAL >>>

    YOU HAVE NOT TAKEN HIM TO COURT YOU DO,NT HAVE A PROVE YOU DO,NT HAVE WITNESSES YOU JUST ANOTHER IDIOT MIDDLEEASTERN THAT LIVE IN THE BARBERICK LAWS AND THE JUNGLE LAWS

    AS FAR AS PM HARRIRI IF YOU UNDERSTAND ENGLISH(DOUGH!!!!!!!!!) YOU CAN READ THAT I SAID THAT I HAVE ALL THE REPECT FOR HIM AND I BELIEVE HE WAS A HERO ;SO DO,NT PUT WORD IN MY MOUTH AND LIE ON MY BEHALF YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER RABIC LIER

    AS FAR AS YOUR NAME JADM IT FITS JUST FINE WHERE THE M STAND FOR MORAN…..

    1. I feel sorry for you Joseph, you don’t even have the curtousy to reply in a civilized way without calling people names and attempt to throwing insults back at their faces.

      Unless you are completely insane then you wouldn’t say Geagea is innocent, so I will not try to reason with you cause you ain’t worth the trouble….funnily enough Geagea closest followers doesn’t hesitate to brag about the massacres his boss has committed in earlier years as if it was an act of heroism whereby it was an act of a coward and a cold blooded criminal who even had the atrocity to kill people in a church.

      As for Hariri, Hariri the father didn’t want to have anything to do with Geagea and he held no respect for him or his likes. It is true he was a well respected man…to well respected to bother and look or shake hands with Geagea…too bad his son isn’t like him

      1.  Avatar

        THEN AGAIN IN DEMOCRACY ALL SUSPECT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN THE COURT OF LAW
        NO ONE IS GUILTY BASED ON STORIES AND RUMORS AND HE SAID SHE SAID HARD EVIDENCE AND PROVE NEED TO BE PRESENTED TO COURT DURING TRIAL THE FACT THAT NEVER HAPPENED I WILL NEVER BELIEVE ANYTHING YOU SAY OF YOUR ACCUSATIONS AND STORIES

  37. josephphd Avatar

    PROPHET YOU JUST ANOTHER STUOID ARAB THAT DOES,NT UNDERSTAND DEMOCRACY
    IN DEMOCRACY THE PESON IS INNOCENT UNTIL YOU PROVE HE IS GUILTY
    YOU AUTOMATICALLY CALLED OUR HERO GEOGEA CRIMINAL YOU HAVE NOT TAKING HIM TO COURT ;YOU DO,NT HAVE PROVE;YOU DO,NT HAVE EVIDENCE; HE IS AUTOMATICLY GUILTY IN YOUR OPINION BECAUSE YOU DO,NT UNDERSTAND DEMOCRACY AND YOU LIKE THE IGNORANT BARBERIC LAWS THAT YOU ARE USED TO LIVE IN

  38. josephphd Avatar

    PROPHET YOU JUST ANOTHER STUOID ARAB THAT DOES,NT UNDERSTAND DEMOCRACY
    IN DEMOCRACY THE PESON IS INNOCENT UNTIL YOU PROVE HE IS GUILTY
    YOU AUTOMATICALLY CALLED OUR HERO GEOGEA CRIMINAL YOU HAVE NOT TAKING HIM TO COURT ;YOU DO,NT HAVE PROVE;YOU DO,NT HAVE EVIDENCE; HE IS AUTOMATICLY GUILTY IN YOUR OPINION BECAUSE YOU DO,NT UNDERSTAND DEMOCRACY AND YOU LIKE THE IGNORANT BARBERIC LAWS THAT YOU ARE USED TO LIVE IN

  39.  Avatar

    PROPHET YOU JUST ANOTHER STUOID ARAB THAT DOES,NT UNDERSTAND DEMOCRACY

    IN DEMOCRACY THE PESON IS INNOCENT UNTIL YOU PROVE HE IS GUILTY

    YOU AUTOMATICALLY CALLED OUR HERO GEOGEA CRIMINAL YOU HAVE NOT TAKING HIM TO COURT ;YOU DO,NT HAVE PROVE;YOU DO,NT HAVE EVIDENCE; HE IS AUTOMATICLY GUILTY IN YOUR OPINION BECAUSE YOU DO,NT UNDERSTAND DEMOCRACY AND YOU LIKE THE IGNORANT BARBERIC LAWS THAT YOU ARE USED TO LIVE IN

  40. josephphd Avatar

    IT WAS ALL LIES AND FABRICATIONS AND ACCUSATIONS GEOGEA NEVER HAD A FAIR TRIAL IT WAS LIERS LIKE YOU WHEN THEY HAD THE POWER THEY JUST PUT HIM IN JAIL
    ANY WAY IF YOU READ AND YOU HAVE ANY TINY EDUCATION YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE LEBANEESE GOVERNEMENT HAD PASSED IMMUNITY FOR ALL LEBANEESE NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEND BEFOR 2005
    AND NO MATTER OF WHAT AND WHO INCLUDING ALL YOUR TRATORS FRIENDS AND CRIMINALS FRIENDS
    AND THEY STARTED A NEW PAGE FROM 2005 AND ON IN THIS CASE YOU SHOULD WATCH YOUR BACK BECAUSE YOU ARE STILL A TRATOR EVEN AFTER 20005

  41. josephphd Avatar

    IT WAS ALL LIES AND FABRICATIONS AND ACCUSATIONS GEOGEA NEVER HAD A FAIR TRIAL IT WAS LIERS LIKE YOU WHEN THEY HAD THE POWER THEY JUST PUT HIM IN JAIL
    ANY WAY IF YOU READ AND YOU HAVE ANY TINY EDUCATION YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE LEBANEESE GOVERNEMENT HAD PASSED IMMUNITY FOR ALL LEBANEESE NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEND BEFOR 2005
    AND NO MATTER OF WHAT AND WHO INCLUDING ALL YOUR TRATORS FRIENDS AND CRIMINALS FRIENDS
    AND THEY STARTED A NEW PAGE FROM 2005 AND ON IN THIS CASE YOU SHOULD WATCH YOUR BACK BECAUSE YOU ARE STILL A TRATOR EVEN AFTER 20005

  42.  Avatar

    IT WAS ALL LIES AND FABRICATIONS AND ACCUSATIONS GEOGEA NEVER HAD A FAIR TRIAL IT WAS LIERS LIKE YOU WHEN THEY HAD THE POWER THEY JUST PUT HIM IN JAIL

    ANY WAY IF YOU READ AND YOU HAVE ANY TINY EDUCATION YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT THE LEBANEESE GOVERNEMENT HAD PASSED IMMUNITY FOR ALL LEBANEESE NO MATTER WHAT HAPPEND BEFOR 2005

    AND NO MATTER OF WHAT AND WHO INCLUDING ALL YOUR TRATORS FRIENDS AND CRIMINALS FRIENDS

    AND THEY STARTED A NEW PAGE FROM 2005 AND ON IN THIS CASE YOU SHOULD WATCH YOUR BACK BECAUSE YOU ARE STILL A TRATOR EVEN AFTER 20005

  43. josephphd Avatar

    PROPHET YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND YOU DO,NT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH
    I TOLD YOU PLACING A FORIGN COUNTRY INTERREST BUT YOU DO,NT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE
    WHAT THE LF DID IT WAS USING OTHER COUNTRIES TOOLS TO LIBERATE LEBANON FROM THE INVADERS THAT WAS PERFECTLY LEGAL AND HEROIC AND IF IT WAS NOT FOR THEM YOU WILL HAVE NO STATE NOW YOU WILL BE LIVING IN A TENT IN THE DESERT OF SOMALIA MAYBE THAT WHAT YOU DESERVE TRATOR ASSWHOLE IS YOU
    THE LF NEVER PLACED ANYONE INTERREST ABOVE LEBANON INTERREST THEY WERE JUST FIGHTING THE PHALESTINIANS INVADERS YOUR CRIMINAL FRIENDS WHO HAVE MASSACERED AND RAPED WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THE PEACEFULL HELPLESS TOWN OF DAMOUR

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar

      Joseph,By throwing the first punch, you admit that you are loosing this debate.Calling me an idiot isn’t going to help you, Joseph. We might be able to have a debate if you stop screaming and yelling. I used your own words to prove to you that Lebanese Forces are traitors. It pissed you off that your own words trapped you. It is obvious that you have double standards.The Lebanese forces allied itself with Israel, and help them kill Lebanese citizens. They helped Israel occupy part of our country for 20 years. They are nothing but traitors.When a group of people ally themselves with the enemy , they are putting the interest of the enemy and their own selfish interest ahead of the interest of their people . You say that if it wasn’t for them I’d have no country, I say: if it wasn’t for them, more than 100,000 Lebanese lives would have been spared, our country would not have been under occupation for 20 years, Israel would not have been able to abuse , and humiliate the your fellow lebanese for 20 years. No thanks to any thing the LF has ever done. No thanks to their treason. No thanks to their crimes. No thanks to all the destruction they caused Lebanon.Thanks for the death ofthe LF dream of establishing a racist state. Thanks for those who changing the course of history, where we live with integrity instead of humiliation by the traitors and the Israelis.Be assured Joseph, the clock would never turned back. Live your miserable life in an illusion. Your “legacy” and the “legacy” of the LF were nightmare and a misery for most Lebanese.You call me anything you want, it makes no difference. What counts is that people like you, who justify treason, are no longer controlling our lives.The day you stop worshiping criminals, and the day you heal yourself form the denial symptoms, then we you can wield your PHD.The day you are willing to look in the mirror and admit your mistakes and the mistakes of your beloved leaders, then, and only then we have a chance of having an honest debate on how we can rebuild Lebanon, and how we can establish a democracy where everyone is equal, and every one shares same responsibilities ,and duties.
      I’m not suggesting that Lebanon is perfect now. But at least the nightmare of the LF is over.

  44. josephphd Avatar

    PROPHET YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND YOU DO,NT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH
    I TOLD YOU PLACING A FORIGN COUNTRY INTERREST BUT YOU DO,NT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE
    WHAT THE LF DID IT WAS USING OTHER COUNTRIES TOOLS TO LIBERATE LEBANON FROM THE INVADERS THAT WAS PERFECTLY LEGAL AND HEROIC AND IF IT WAS NOT FOR THEM YOU WILL HAVE NO STATE NOW YOU WILL BE LIVING IN A TENT IN THE DESERT OF SOMALIA MAYBE THAT WHAT YOU DESERVE TRATOR ASSWHOLE IS YOU
    THE LF NEVER PLACED ANYONE INTERREST ABOVE LEBANON INTERREST THEY WERE JUST FIGHTING THE PHALESTINIANS INVADERS YOUR CRIMINAL FRIENDS WHO HAVE MASSACERED AND RAPED WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THE PEACEFULL HELPLESS TOWN OF DAMOUR

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar

      Joseph,By throwing the first punch, you admit that you are loosing this debate.Calling me an idiot isn’t going to help you, Joseph. We might be able to have a debate if you stop screaming and yelling. I used your own words to prove to you that Lebanese Forces are traitors. It pissed you off that your own words trapped you. It is obvious that you have double standards.The Lebanese forces allied itself with Israel, and help them kill Lebanese citizens. They helped Israel occupy part of our country for 20 years. They are nothing but traitors.When a group of people ally themselves with the enemy , they are putting the interest of the enemy and their own selfish interest ahead of the interest of their people . You say that if it wasn’t for them I’d have no country, I say: if it wasn’t for them, more than 100,000 Lebanese lives would have been spared, our country would not have been under occupation for 20 years, Israel would not have been able to abuse , and humiliate the your fellow lebanese for 20 years. No thanks to any thing the LF has ever done. No thanks to their treason. No thanks to their crimes. No thanks to all the destruction they caused Lebanon.Thanks for the death ofthe LF dream of establishing a racist state. Thanks for those who changing the course of history, where we live with integrity instead of humiliation by the traitors and the Israelis.Be assured Joseph, the clock would never turned back. Live your miserable life in an illusion. Your “legacy” and the “legacy” of the LF were nightmare and a misery for most Lebanese.You call me anything you want, it makes no difference. What counts is that people like you, who justify treason, are no longer controlling our lives.The day you stop worshiping criminals, and the day you heal yourself form the denial symptoms, then we you can wield your PHD.The day you are willing to look in the mirror and admit your mistakes and the mistakes of your beloved leaders, then, and only then we have a chance of having an honest debate on how we can rebuild Lebanon, and how we can establish a democracy where everyone is equal, and every one shares same responsibilities ,and duties.
      I’m not suggesting that Lebanon is perfect now. But at least the nightmare of the LF is over.

  45.  Avatar

    PROPHET YOU ARE AN IDIOT AND YOU DO,NT UNDERSTAND ENGLISH

    I TOLD YOU PLACING A FORIGN COUNTRY INTERREST BUT YOU DO,NT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE

    WHAT THE LF DID IT WAS USING OTHER COUNTRIES TOOLS TO LIBERATE LEBANON FROM THE INVADERS THAT WAS PERFECTLY LEGAL AND HEROIC AND IF IT WAS NOT FOR THE YOU WILL HAVE NO STATE NOW YOU WILL BE LIVING IN A TENT IN THE DESERT OF SOMALIA MAYBE THAT WHAT YOU DESERVE TRATOR ASSWHOLE IS YOU

    THE LF NEVER PLACED ANYONE INTERREST ABOVE LEBANON INTERREST THEY WERE JUST FIGHTING THE PHALESTINIANS INVADERS YOUR CRIMINAL FRIENDS WHO HAVE MASSACERED AND RAPED WOMEN AND CHILDREN IN THE PEACEFULL HELPLESS TOWN OF DAMOUR

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar

      Joseph,
      By throwing the first punch, you admit that you are loosing this debate.
      Calling me an idiot isn’t going to help you Joseph.
      We might be able to have a debate if you stop screaming and yelling.
      I used your own words to prove to you that Lebanese Forces are traitors. It pissed you off that your own words trapped you. It is obvious that you have double standards.
      The Lebanese forces allied itself with Israel, and help them kill Lebanese citizens. They helped Israel occupy part of our country for 20 years. They are nothing but traitors.
      When a group of people ally themselves with the enemy , they are putting the interest of the enemy and their own selfish interest ahead of the interest of their people .
      You say that if it wasn’t for them I’d have no country, I say: if it wasn’t for them, more than 100,000 Lebanese lives would have been spared, our country would not have been under occupation for 20 years, Israel would not have been able to abuse and humiliate the southerners for 20 years.
      No thanks to any thing the LF has ever done. No thanks to their treason. No thanks to their crimes. No thanks to all the destruction they caused Lebanon. No thanks to you either.
      Thanks for killing the LF dream of establishing a racist state. Thanks for changing the course of history, where we live with integrity instead of humiliation by the traitors and the Israelis.
      Be assured Joseph, the clock would never turned back. Live your miserable life in an illusion. Your “legacy” and the “legacy” of the LF were nightmare and a misery for most Lebanese.
      You call me anything you want, it makes no difference. What counts is that people like you, who justify treason, are no longer controlling our lives.
      The day you stop worshiping criminals, and the day you heal yourself form the denial symptoms, then we you can wield your PHD.
      The day you are willing to look in the mirror and admit your mistakes and the mistakes of your beloved leaders, then, and only then we have a chance of having an honest debate on how we can rebuild Lebanon, and how we can establish a democracy where everyone is equal, and every one shares same responsibilities ,and duties.

  46. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Joseph,

    By throwing the first punch, you admit that you are loosing this debate.

    Calling me an idiot isn’t going to help you Joseph.

    We might be able to have a debate if you stop screaming and yelling.

    I used your own words to prove to you that Lebanese Forces are traitors. It pissed you off that your own words trapped you. It is obvious that you have double standards.

    The Lebanese forces allied itself with Israel, and help them kill Lebanese citizens. They helped Israel occupy part of our country for 20 years. They are nothing but traitors.

    When a group of people ally themselves with the enemy , they are putting the interest of the enemy and their own selfish interest ahead of the interest of their people .

    You say that if it wasn’t for them I’d have no country, I say: if it wasn’t for them, more than 100,000 Lebanese lives would have been spared, our country would not have been under occupation for 20 years, Israel would not have been able to abuse and humiliate the southerners for 20 years.

    No thanks to any thing the LF has ever done. No thanks to their treason. No thanks to their crimes. No thanks to all the destruction they caused Lebanon. No thanks to you either.

    Thanks for killing the LF dream of establishing a racist state. Thanks for changing the course of history, where we live with integrity instead of humiliation by the traitors and the Israelis.

    Be assured Joseph, the clock would never turned back. Live your miserable life in an illusion. Your “legacy” and the “legacy” of the LF were nightmare and a misery for most Lebanese.

    You call me anything you want, it makes no difference. What counts is that people like you, who justify treason, are no longer controlling our lives.

    The day you stop worshiping criminals, and the day you heal yourself form the denial symptoms, then we you can wield your PHD.

    The day you are willing to look in the mirror and admit your mistakes and the mistakes of your beloved leaders, then, and only then we have a chance of having an honest debate on how we can rebuild Lebanon, and how we can establish a democracy where everyone is equal, and every one shares same responsibilities ,and duties.

  47. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Joseph,
    By throwing the first punch, you admit that you are loosing this debate.
    Calling me an idiot isn’t going to help you, Joseph.
    We might be able to have a debate if you stop screaming and yelling.
    I used your own words to prove to you that Lebanese Forces are traitors. It pissed you off that your own words trapped you. It is obvious that you have double standards.
    The Lebanese forces allied itself with Israel, and help them kill Lebanese citizens. They helped Israel occupy part of our country for 20 years. They are nothing but traitors.
    When a group of people ally themselves with the enemy , they are putting the interest of the enemy and their own selfish interest ahead of the interest of their people .
    You say that if it wasn’t for them I’d have no country, I say: if it wasn’t for them, more than 100,000 Lebanese lives would have been spared, our country would not have been under occupation for 20 years, Israel would not have been able to abuse , and humiliate the your fellow lebanese for 20 years.
    No thanks to any thing the LF has ever done. No thanks to their treason. No thanks to their crimes. No thanks to all the destruction they caused Lebanon.
    Thanks for the death ofthe LF dream of establishing a racist state. Thanks for those who changing the course of history, where we live with integrity instead of humiliation by the traitors and the Israelis.
    Be assured Joseph, the clock would never turned back. Live your miserable life in an illusion. Your “legacy” and the “legacy” of the LF were nightmare and a misery for most Lebanese.
    You call me anything you want, it makes no difference. What counts is that people like you, who justify treason, are no longer controlling our lives.
    The day you stop worshiping criminals, and the day you heal yourself form the denial symptoms, then we you can wield your PHD.
    The day you are willing to look in the mirror and admit your mistakes and the mistakes of your beloved leaders, then, and only then we have a chance of having an honest debate on how we can rebuild Lebanon, and how we can establish a democracy where everyone is equal, and every one shares same responsibilities ,and duties.

    I’m not suggesting that Lebanon is perfect now. But at least the nightmare of the LF is over.

    1. Leborigine Avatar

      Hi Prophet, as you know me by now, I usually do not debate in these topics as there are no winners and no losers, and we can debate a lifetime about it. I am not a supporter of Geagea, but I do disagree on a few comments abovementioned.
      As you also know that I place the palestinians, syrians, iranian and israelis in the same catagory.
      Israel is no more of an enemy to Lebanon than syria or palestine.
      The LF might have fought alongside the israelis, but the psp, ssnp, and alot of the left wing parties fought alongside the palestinians and/or syrians against Xtians, doesn’t that make them traitors to Lebanon as well!!?
      I have also noticed that you do not like Bashir Gemayel and I do not blame you, as I also disagree with a lot of things that he did, but do not forget that he was kidnapped by the pales and who knows what they did to him??
      I have heard alot and witnessed some of the atrocities commited by the pales hands against the xtains. You have Damoor, Chikkah, shouf, Aley,Tripoli, etc and a lot of the left wing parties assisted them along with the syrians. How would you expect any normal person to react, Though I strongly believe it is completely wrong to kill innocent people by their ID cards, both sides are guilty of doing so.
      99.999% of the crimes and treason commited by the LF against their fellow Lebanese and Lebanon, every other militia or party has commited the same, whether they were allied with israel ar any other arab country.

  48. PROPHET.T Avatar

    Joseph,

    By throwing the first punch, you admit that you are loosing this debate.

    Calling me an idiot isn’t going to help you, Joseph.

    We might be able to have a debate if you stop screaming and yelling.

    I used your own words to prove to you that Lebanese Forces are traitors. It pissed you off that your own words trapped you. It is obvious that you have double standards.

    The Lebanese forces allied itself with Israel, and help them kill Lebanese citizens. They helped Israel occupy part of our country for 20 years. They are nothing but traitors.

    When a group of people ally themselves with the enemy , they are putting the interest of the enemy and their own selfish interest ahead of the interest of their people .

    You say that if it wasn’t for them I’d have no country, I say: if it wasn’t for them, more than 100,000 Lebanese lives would have been spared, our country would not have been under occupation for 20 years, Israel would not have been able to abuse , and humiliate the your fellow lebanese for 20 years.

    No thanks to any thing the LF has ever done. No thanks to their treason. No thanks to their crimes. No thanks to all the destruction they caused Lebanon.

    Thanks for the death ofthe LF dream of establishing a racist state. Thanks for those who changing the course of history, where we live with integrity instead of humiliation by the traitors and the Israelis.

    Be assured Joseph, the clock would never turned back. Live your miserable life in an illusion. Your “legacy” and the “legacy” of the LF were nightmare and a misery for most Lebanese.

    You call me anything you want, it makes no difference. What counts is that people like you, who justify treason, are no longer controlling our lives.

    The day you stop worshiping criminals, and the day you heal yourself form the denial symptoms, then we you can wield your PHD.

    The day you are willing to look in the mirror and admit your mistakes and the mistakes of your beloved leaders, then, and only then we have a chance of having an honest debate on how we can rebuild Lebanon, and how we can establish a democracy where everyone is equal, and every one shares same responsibilities ,and duties.

    I’m not suggesting that Lebanon is perfect now. But at least the nightmare of the LF is over.

    1.  Avatar

      Hi Prophet, as you know me by now, I usually do not debate in these topics as there are no winners and no losers, and we can debate a lifetime about it. I am not a supporter of Geagea, but I do disagree on a few comments abovementioned.

      As you also know that I place the palestinians, syrians, iranian and israelis in the same catagory.

      Israel is no more of an enemy to Lebanon than syria or palestine.

      The LF might have fought alongside the israelis, but the psp, ssnp, and alot of the left wing parties fought alongside the palestinians and/or syrians against Xtians, doesn’t that make them traitors to Lebanon as well!!?

      I have also noticed that you do not like Bashir Gemayel and I do not blame you, as I also disagree with a lot of things that he did, but do not forget that he was kidnapped by the pales and who knows what they did to him??

      I have heard alot and witnessed some of the atrocities commited by the pales hands against the xtains. You have Damoor, Chikkah, shouf, Aley,Tripoli, etc and a lot of the left wing parties assisted them along with the syrians. How would you expect any normal person to react, Though I strongly believe it is completely wrong to kill innocent people by their ID cards, both sides are guilty of doing so.

      99.999% of the crimes and treason commited by the LF against their fellow Lebanese and Lebanon, every other militia or party has commited the same, whether they were allied with israel ar any other arab country.

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