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Geagea: We are ready to hold early elections to prove Aoun wrong

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Lebanese Forces leader Samir Geagea said on Wednesday in response to Speaker Nabih Berri that all members of the cabinet that will be headed by Prime Minister-designate Najib Mikati will be required to adhere to the principles of the March 8 coalition.

“Speaker Nabih Berri has always been subtle, but the members of a new cabinet are being asked to fully abide by March 8’s convictions in order to participate in the cabinet ,” Geagea said, in response to Berri’s call for involving all parties in the new cabinet.

Geagea said during an interview that Berri’s statement and MP Michel Aoun’s Tuesday statement don’t match

“It has been clearly shown by Aoun that the new cabinet will be loyal to Syria, Hezbollah and March 8 principles.” Geagea said

He said that Aoun’s recent statements contradict his past ones, “in which he used to stress that all parties should take part in the cabinet.”

He also rejected Aoun’s statement that the results of the 2009 parliamentary elections – in which March 14 won the majority of seats – were falsified.

“The 2009 elections were clean…and if Aoun assumes that he now has the majority, we are ready to hold early elections to prove him wrong .”

Similarly MP Sami Gemayel who represents the Phalange party in the parliament called last week for early parliamentary elections stressing that this will be the best democratic solution for ending the current crisis.

“I call for early parliamentary elections, let the people say their word,” Gemayel said adding “this will be the best democratic solution for the current crisis and will put an end to the street violence “.

“Our position as March 14 is to either for all of us to participate in the new cabinet or to not participate at all,” Geagea said, reiterating March 14’s commitment to the Special Tribunal for Lebanon (STL) and the limitation of non-state weapons.

Aoun on Tuesday questioned whether March 14 should be given a blocking third of seats in Mikati’s new cabinet, saying the country should not return to political paralysis.

The Iranian and Syria-backed Hezbollah brought down Hariri’s government on January 12 over the Special Tribunal for Lebanon’s (STL) indictment which is widely expected to implicate Hezbollah members in the assassination of former PM Rafik Hariri in 2005 .

MP Najib Mikati, backed Hezbollah and its March 8 allies including Jumblatt , was appointed last Tuesday by president Michel Suleiman as PM-designate to form and head the next cabinet , giving Hezbollah and its allies increased leverage in the country and provoking widespread protests.

The March 14 alliance is demanding that Mikati, a political moderate with good ties to Syria, guarantee he will not disavow the tribunal.

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84 responses to “Geagea: We are ready to hold early elections to prove Aoun wrong”

  1. nabilabuzaid Avatar
    nabilabuzaid

    I wander should there be regime change in Syria what would Hezbollah and March 8th cronies would be following in Damascus? the Muslim Brotherhoods lol.

    1. libnan1 Avatar
      libnan1

      I wonder where you’ll go if the Muslim Brotherhood take over in Damascus !!!!! You think Hariri will be around to help you, wrong !

  2. nabilabuzaid Avatar
    nabilabuzaid

    I wander should there be regime change in Syria what would Hezbollah and March 8th cronies would be following in Damascus? the Muslim Brotherhoods lol.

  3. Avatar
    Anonymous

    I wander should there be regime change in Syria what would Hezbollah and March 8th cronies would be following in Damascus? the Muslim Brotherhoods lol.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      I wonder where you’ll go if the Muslim Brotherhood take over in Damascus !!!!! You think Hariri will be around to help you, wrong !

  4. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
    Jean Jacques Francois

    Aoun is a dirty mouthpiece for Nasrallah, as in his mouth is surgically attached to Hassoun’s derrière. His desperation for relevance has forced him down a career path soaked in treachery. I’m no fan of Geagea, but Aoun’s miserable failures and divisive tactics have turned Geagea into a legitimate leader for the Christians.

    1. libnan1 Avatar
      libnan1

      Speak for yourself buddy. Geagea can’t even get one vote where he lives (keserwan). Every one hate his guts, Hariri gave him tons of $$$ on the top of what he robbed from the Christians to build his house in Meerab. Geagea and Amin Gemeyel are worthless human beings consuming oxygen. Aoun has his issues but he is the legitimate leader of the Christians. Let them call for new elections and Christian MP get elected by Christians only. Then you’ll see how many MPs Geagea gets, maybe ONE.

      1. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
        Jean Jacques Francois

        Aoun has as much legitimacy as my left nut. I dont mean to burst your little bubble, but your hero leader is a parasite that has no place in lebanon’s future. He’s just dumb enough to believe all the BS Hassoun has shoved up his star of David shaped ass.

        1. libnan1 Avatar
          libnan1

          I don’t think you even have nuts. Aoun will be your master if and when you return to Lebanon. Geagea, Hariri, jumblat and the Di*k head Amin are a collection of losers that like to hear themselves talk.

        2. libnan1 Avatar
          libnan1

          I don’t think you even have nuts. Aoun will be your master if and when you return to Lebanon. Geagea, Hariri, jumblat and the Di*k head Amin are a collection of losers that like to hear themselves talk.

        3. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
          Jean Jacques Francois

          Libnan1 – I love your passion, unfortunately you are setting yourself up for a massive letdown if you believe that your minion Michel will ever be anything more than a puppet for the great almighty Hassoun. His throat is coated with 7aleeb Hassoun, and sadly you are among the few in Lebanon who are retarded followers unable to see past his facade.

          The ideal scenario would be another roundtable discussion between all of the wonderful “leaders” of Lebanon, and a neutron bomb that wipes them all out. What a wonderful day that would be.

  5. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
    Jean Jacques Francois

    Aoun is a dirty mouthpiece for Nasrallah, as in his mouth is surgically attached to Hassoun’s derrière. His desperation for relevance has forced him down a career path soaked in treachery. I’m no fan of Geagea, but Aoun’s miserable failures and divisive tactics have turned Geagea into a legitimate leader for the Christians.

    1. libnan1 Avatar
      libnan1

      Speak for yourself buddy. Geagea can’t even get one vote where he lives (keserwan). Every one hate his guts, Hariri gave him tons of $$$ on the top of what he robbed from the Christians to build his house in Meerab. Geagea and Amin Gemeyel are worthless human beings consuming oxygen. Aoun has his issues but he is the legitimate leader of the Christians. Let them call for new elections and Christian MP get elected by Christians only. Then you’ll see how many MPs Geagea gets, maybe ONE.

  6. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
    Jean Jacques Francois

    Aoun is a dirty mouthpiece for Nasrallah, as in his mouth is surgically attached to Hassoun’s derrière. His desperation for relevance has forced him down a career path soaked in treachery. I’m no fan of Geagea, but Aoun’s miserable failures and divisive tactics have turned Geagea into a legitimate leader for the Christians.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Speak for yourself buddy. Geagea can’t even get one vote where he lives (keserwan). Every one hate his guts, Hariri gave him tons of $$$ on the top of what he robbed from the Christians to build his house in Meerab. Geagea and Amin Gemeyel are worthless human beings consuming oxygen. Aoun has his issues but he is the legitimate leader of the Christians. Let them call for new elections and Christian MP get elected by Christians only. Then you’ll see how many MPs Geagea gets, maybe ONE.

      1. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
        Jean Jacques Francois

        Aoun has as much legitimacy as my left nut. I dont mean to burst your little bubble, but your hero leader is a parasite that has no place in lebanon’s future. He’s just dumb enough to believe all the BS Hassoun has shoved up his star of David shaped ass.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          I don’t think you even have nuts. Aoun will be your master if and when you return to Lebanon. Geagea, Hariri, jumblat and the Di*k head Amin are a collection of losers that like to hear themselves talk.

        2. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
          Jean Jacques Francois

          Libnan1 – I love your passion, unfortunately you are setting yourself up for a massive letdown if you believe that your minion Michel will ever be anything more than a puppet for the great almighty Hassoun. His throat is coated with 7aleeb Hassoun, and sadly you are among the few in Lebanon who are retarded followers unable to see past his facade.

          The ideal scenario would be another roundtable discussion between all of the wonderful “leaders” of Lebanon, and a neutron bomb that wipes them all out. What a wonderful day that would be.

  7. Mosetsfire Avatar
    Mosetsfire

    Samir Geagea and Sami Gemayel have been the only 2 politicians speaking reasonably. Move for new elections and let the people decide which government they want in place.

    1. nabilabuzaid Avatar
      nabilabuzaid

      Mohamad let’s be clear here no matter what March 14th have on their minds it will only work if the March 8th will have it in their higher goals. Let’s face it Hezbollah, Syria and mainly Iran have higher goals in mind for Lebanon. They want to control it and it was left to Iran then Lebanon would be under Waliat Al Faqih by now. The issue Iran wants Lebanon, Iraq, and other arab countries to follow the rules of the Islamic Republic. Iran have not strengthen Lebanon Shiites for no reasons. Lately their goal is to keep Israel at bay so they can develop their nuclear weapons and weapons of Mass destructions. To be honest they the right to build nuclear weapons as long as they don’t use it on everyone and cause lots of destructions. The problem they’re not invovling the Shiites community in the war against Israel. Its the whole Lebanon that will gets destroyed so because there is international problems. So March 14h have wasted many oppt. and they continue to talk to Hezbollah or trying to thinking they will listen and reason with them. Whom are we kidding. The bastards assassinated many Lebanese and hariri gave them a way out without involving they Syrian Regimes, and the Main HA organizations but no they want to kill us and destroy Lebanon in the process. HA will not rest until it captualte the whole country under its control and there is nothing anyone will dare say anything about it. Because they’re slogans been if you go against our will, then you’re an enemy of us and therefore you’re also a traitor for Israel.
      Enough is enough let’s show them what we made of. If its civil war between us and them, then f..it lets get it over with.

      1. Mosetsfire Avatar
        Mosetsfire

        I do not live in Lebanon any more so I cannot advocate a civil war in good conscience bas wallah Im with you. I dont even consider March 8 to be Lebanese. They do not represent Lebanon’s interest and Aoun is the most openly corrupt politician ive ever seen. Zih2na from Hezbollah and their backing. InshAllah this revolution will spread to iran and cripple these traitors so they can be dealt with.

    2. nabilabuzaid Avatar
      nabilabuzaid

      Mohamad let’s be clear here no matter what March 14th have on their minds it will only work if the March 8th will have it in their higher goals. Let’s face it Hezbollah, Syria and mainly Iran have higher goals in mind for Lebanon. They want to control it and it was left to Iran then Lebanon would be under Waliat Al Faqih by now. The issue Iran wants Lebanon, Iraq, and other arab countries to follow the rules of the Islamic Republic. Iran have not strengthen Lebanon Shiites for no reasons. Lately their goal is to keep Israel at bay so they can develop their nuclear weapons and weapons of Mass destructions. To be honest they the right to build nuclear weapons as long as they don’t use it on everyone and cause lots of destructions. The problem they’re not invovling the Shiites community in the war against Israel. Its the whole Lebanon that will gets destroyed so because there is international problems. So March 14h have wasted many oppt. and they continue to talk to Hezbollah or trying to thinking they will listen and reason with them. Whom are we kidding. The bastards assassinated many Lebanese and hariri gave them a way out without involving they Syrian Regimes, and the Main HA organizations but no they want to kill us and destroy Lebanon in the process. HA will not rest until it captualte the whole country under its control and there is nothing anyone will dare say anything about it. Because they’re slogans been if you go against our will, then you’re an enemy of us and therefore you’re also a traitor for Israel.
      Enough is enough let’s show them what we made of. If its civil war between us and them, then f..it lets get it over with.

      1. Mosetsfire Avatar
        Mosetsfire

        I do not live in Lebanon any more so I cannot advocate a civil war in good conscience bas wallah Im with you. I dont even consider March 8 to be Lebanese. They do not represent Lebanon’s interest and Aoun is the most openly corrupt politician ive ever seen. Zih2na from Hezbollah and their backing. InshAllah this revolution will spread to iran and cripple these traitors so they can be dealt with.

  8. Mohamad Masri Avatar
    Mohamad Masri

    Samir Geagea and Sami Gemayel have been the only 2 politicians speaking reasonably. Move for new elections and let the people decide which government they want in place.

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Mohamad let’s be clear here no matter what March 14th have on their minds it will only work if the March 8th will have it in their higher goals. Let’s face it Hezbollah, Syria and mainly Iran have higher goals in mind for Lebanon. They want to control it and it was left to Iran then Lebanon would be under Waliat Al Faqih by now. The issue Iran wants Lebanon, Iraq, and other arab countries to follow the rules of the Islamic Republic. Iran have not strengthen Lebanon Shiites for no reasons. Lately their goal is to keep Israel at bay so they can develop their nuclear weapons and weapons of Mass destructions. To be honest they the right to build nuclear weapons as long as they don’t use it on everyone and cause lots of destructions. The problem they’re not invovling the Shiites community in the war against Israel. Its the whole Lebanon that will gets destroyed so because there is international problems. So March 14h have wasted many oppt. and they continue to talk to Hezbollah or trying to thinking they will listen and reason with them. Whom are we kidding. The bastards assassinated many Lebanese and hariri gave them a way out without involving they Syrian Regimes, and the Main HA organizations but no they want to kill us and destroy Lebanon in the process. HA will not rest until it captualte the whole country under its control and there is nothing anyone will dare say anything about it. Because they’re slogans been if you go against our will, then you’re an enemy of us and therefore you’re also a traitor for Israel.
      Enough is enough let’s show them what we made of. If its civil war between us and them, then f..it lets get it over with.

      1. Mohamad Masri Avatar
        Mohamad Masri

        I do not live in Lebanon any more so I cannot advocate a civil war in good conscience bas wallah Im with you. I dont even consider March 8 to be Lebanese. They do not represent Lebanon’s interest and Aoun is the most openly corrupt politician ive ever seen. Zih2na from Hezbollah and their backing. InshAllah this revolution will spread to iran and cripple these traitors so they can be dealt with.

    2. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Mohamad let’s be clear here no matter what March 14th have on their minds it will only work if the March 8th will have it in their higher goals. Let’s face it Hezbollah, Syria and mainly Iran have higher goals in mind for Lebanon. They want to control it and it was left to Iran then Lebanon would be under Waliat Al Faqih by now. The issue Iran wants Lebanon, Iraq, and other arab countries to follow the rules of the Islamic Republic. Iran have not strengthen Lebanon Shiites for no reasons. Lately their goal is to keep Israel at bay so they can develop their nuclear weapons and weapons of Mass destructions. To be honest they the right to build nuclear weapons as long as they don’t use it on everyone and cause lots of destructions. The problem they’re not invovling the Shiites community in the war against Israel. Its the whole Lebanon that will gets destroyed so because there is international problems. So March 14h have wasted many oppt. and they continue to talk to Hezbollah or trying to thinking they will listen and reason with them. Whom are we kidding. The bastards assassinated many Lebanese and hariri gave them a way out without involving they Syrian Regimes, and the Main HA organizations but no they want to kill us and destroy Lebanon in the process. HA will not rest until it captualte the whole country under its control and there is nothing anyone will dare say anything about it. Because they’re slogans been if you go against our will, then you’re an enemy of us and therefore you’re also a traitor for Israel.
      Enough is enough let’s show them what we made of. If its civil war between us and them, then f..it lets get it over with.

  9. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

    Would Gegea had called for an early election to prove that Aoun is wrong ,Before M14 lost the majority? Definitely not.

    1. Mosetsfire Avatar
      Mosetsfire

      what kind of stupid logic is this? The majority wasn’t lost by the people it was lost due to the duplicity and terrorist ways of March 8. A referendum to the public would give the Lebanese back their voices, since the new PM, Mikati and Safadi and most of Jumblatt’s crew ran on March 14th tickets. For some one who dubs himself a prophet you tend to sound more like a fool

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        M@M You are full of non sense.
        M14 lost the majority and the government regardless.
        My point was that Geagea would not have called for early election, had the Hariri government not collapsed,and again, regardless of how it collapsed.
        Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Both arguments can be validated but Geagea is referring to the will of the people which is more accurate gauge as opposed to the will of the ministers as they can be manipulated or coerced under threats etc… An early election is fair. If the majority of people decide for HA then March 14 better shut up for good. On the contrary if HA loses the vote then weapons or not they should wrap up and yield. However, we all know that weapons talk not votes nor majority.

        2. nabilabuzaid Avatar
          nabilabuzaid

          March 14th lost simply and mostly because of Walid Jumblatt was forced to switch side. Maybe you have not read all the news. But when it was time to vote, Hezbollah who is controlling Corner 888 in Druzeland was patrolling the druze neighborhood with their arms showing. This was all a message to intimidate Walid Beik and his MP’s and basically it trickles down to population. Even Walid Beik have confessed to March 14th that he was technically threatened. Of course he later retracted his stmt. So March 14th lost based on threats from Syria and HA. even Walid when he visited Assad he told them it was hard for him to vote for anybody else other than Hariri. I read it online here like everybody else. so what make you think that Mikati won the election thru the democratic process? if everytime someone goes against HA and was told to either side with them or be killed.. is this what you call a version of winning? stop acting dumb or you don’t know what its going on? Mohamed is right and whether Hariri was good or bad PM. He was going to win it until several MP’s where threatened simple and clear. If winning by intimidation is okay with you, then how can we trust these people to run the gov’t and run the nation..

        3. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Nabil,
          I made it a convenient habit to read the first sentence of your comments only. That was enough for me to remind you that M14 lost the majority regardless of what the reason. Parties switch sides in politics all the time. It is part of political life, and part of democracy. So live with it until next election or until someone decides to switch sides again. You can blame HA, Syria, Jumblat, or who ever you want to vent your anger on. Stop being a cry baby.

        4. josephphdman Avatar
          josephphdman

          m8 did not win the election they stole it by lying and cheating and using a criminals ways and intimidations threats of mp junblat ife etcc.. to gain the seats which they were not elected for from march 14 ; that is not democracy those are crimes against the lebaneese people and against the state of lebanon march 8 members should be impeached from parlement and should brought to court to be tried for conspiracies and crimes they have committed against the free democratic lebaneese people and against the state of lebanon

      2. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        M@M You are full of non sense.
        M14 lost the majority and the government regardless.
        My point was that Geagea would not have called for early election, had the Hariri government not collapsed,and again, regardless of how it collapsed.
        Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Both arguments can be validated but Geagea is referring to the will of the people which is more accurate gauge as opposed to the will of the ministers as they can be manipulated or coerced under threats etc… An early election is fair. If the majority of people decide for HA then March 14 better shut up for good. On the contrary if HA loses the vote then weapons or not they should wrap up and yield. However, we all know that weapons talk not votes nor majority.

        2. nabilabuzaid Avatar
          nabilabuzaid

          March 14th lost simply and mostly because of Walid Jumblatt was forced to switch side. Maybe you have not read all the news. But when it was time to vote, Hezbollah who is controlling Corner 888 in Druzeland was patrolling the druze neighborhood with their arms showing. This was all a message to intimidate Walid Beik and his MP’s and basically it trickles down to population. Even Walid Beik have confessed to March 14th that he was technically threatened. Of course he later retracted his stmt. So March 14th lost based on threats from Syria and HA. even Walid when he visited Assad he told them it was hard for him to vote for anybody else other than Hariri. I read it online here like everybody else. so what make you think that Mikati won the election thru the democratic process? if everytime someone goes against HA and was told to either side with them or be killed.. is this what you call a version of winning? stop acting dumb or you don’t know what its going on? Mohamed is right and whether Hariri was good or bad PM. He was going to win it until several MP’s where threatened simple and clear. If winning by intimidation is okay with you, then how can we trust these people to run the gov’t and run the nation..

        3. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Nabil,
          I made it a convenient habit to read the first sentence of your comments only. That was enough for me to remind you that M14 lost the majority regardless of what the reason. Parties switch sides in politics all the time. It is part of political life, and part of democracy. So live with it until next election or until someone decides to switch sides again. You can blame HA, Syria, Jumblat, or who ever you want to vent your anger on. Stop being a cry baby.

        4. josephphdman Avatar
          josephphdman

          m8 did not win the election they stole it by lying and cheating and using a criminals ways and intimidations threats of mp junblat ife etcc.. to gain the seats which they were not elected for from march 14 ; that is not democracy those are crimes against the lebaneese people and against the state of lebanon march 8 members should be impeached from parlement and should brought to court to be tried for conspiracies and crimes they have committed against the free democratic lebaneese people and against the state of lebanon

      3. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        As far as we know, M8 had the popular votes anyway.

        1. libnan1 Avatar
          libnan1

          Affirmative. M8 are the saviors of Lebanon

      4. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        As far as we know, M8 had the popular votes anyway.

        1. libnan1 Avatar
          libnan1

          Affirmative. M8 are the saviors of Lebanon

      5. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
        Jean Jacques Francois

        Don’t let his name fool you – this prophet specializes in preaching hatred and violence. His Hezbollah masters have trained him well in the art of democracy.

      6. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
        Jean Jacques Francois

        Don’t let his name fool you – this prophet specializes in preaching hatred and violence. His Hezbollah masters have trained him well in the art of democracy.

    2. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      Prophet
      There is a simple acid test to find out the will of the people. It is really a no brainer. I haven’t been using the system myself but just looking at the “likes” counts on this site or on other sites (except for al manar because it is filtered and skewed) you will see where the voting or the majority stands. Now there is a slight probability of an anomaly as the majority of educated well to do people and expats are pro March 14 and therefore frequent the internet more often than March 8 supporters but I doubt this theory to be true. A fair election today, one without the power of weapons or money (listen well March 14 camp) because money is a form of weapon, will give you a 60/40 ratio in favor of March 14. I wish such an election would take place because it will solve this once and for all.

      1. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
        Jean Jacques Francois

        Hannibal, what the False Prophet fails to realize is that even though Jumblatt’s pulled the chair from under the majority, those who voted for his party in the past election did so before he surgically detached his balls and handed one to Bashar and the other to Hassoun. Anyone who thinks the people will vote for that coward and what he represents next time we get the chance is clearly tripping on acid.

  10. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

    Would Gegea had called for an early election to prove that Aoun is wrong ,Before M14 lost the majority? Definitely not.

    1. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      Prophet
      There is a simple acid test to find out the will of the people. It is really a no brainer. I haven’t been using the system myself but just looking at the “likes” counts on this site or on other sites (except for al manar because it is filtered and skewed) you will see where the voting or the majority stands. Now there is a slight probability of an anomaly as the majority of educated well to do people and expats are pro March 14 and therefore frequent the internet more often than March 8 supporters but I doubt this theory to be true. A fair election today, one without the power of weapons or money (listen well March 14 camp) because money is a form of weapon, will give you a 60/40 ratio in favor of March 14. I wish such an election would take place because it will solve this once and for all.

      1. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
        Jean Jacques Francois

        Hannibal, what the False Prophet fails to realize is that even though Jumblatt’s pulled the chair from under the majority, those who voted for his party in the past election did so before he surgically detached his balls and handed one to Bashar and the other to Hassoun. Anyone who thinks the people will vote for that coward and what he represents next time we get the chance is clearly tripping on acid.

  11. PROPHET.T Avatar
    PROPHET.T

    Would Gegea had called for an early election to prove that Aoun is wrong ,Before M14 lost the majority? Definitely not.

    1. Mohamad Masri Avatar
      Mohamad Masri

      what kind of stupid logic is this? The majority wasn’t lost by the people it was lost due to the duplicity and terrorist ways of March 8. A referendum to the public would give the Lebanese back their voices, since the new PM, Mikati and Safadi and most of Jumblatt’s crew ran on March 14th tickets. For some one who dubs himself a prophet you tend to sound more like a fool

      1. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        M@M You are full of non sense.
        M14 lost the majority and the government regardless.
        My point was that Geagea would not have called for early election, had the Hariri government not collapsed,and again, regardless of how it collapsed.
        Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

        1. Hannibal Avatar
          Hannibal

          Both arguments can be validated but Geagea is referring to the will of the people which is more accurate gauge as opposed to the will of the ministers as they can be manipulated or coerced under threats etc… An early election is fair. If the majority of people decide for HA then March 14 better shut up for good. On the contrary if HA loses the vote then weapons or not they should wrap up and yield. However, we all know that weapons talk not votes nor majority.

        2. Avatar
          Anonymous

          March 14th lost simply and mostly because of Walid Jumblatt was forced to switch side. Maybe you have not read all the news. But when it was time to vote, Hezbollah who is controlling Corner 888 in Druzeland was patrolling the druze neighborhood with their arms showing. This was all a message to intimidate Walid Beik and his MP’s and basically it trickles down to population. Even Walid Beik have confessed to March 14th that he was technically threatened. Of course he later retracted his stmt. So March 14th lost based on threats from Syria and HA. even Walid when he visited Assad he told them it was hard for him to vote for anybody else other than Hariri. I read it online here like everybody else. so what make you think that Mikati won the election thru the democratic process? if everytime someone goes against HA and was told to either side with them or be killed.. is this what you call a version of winning? stop acting dumb or you don’t know what its going on? Mohamed is right and whether Hariri was good or bad PM. He was going to win it until several MP’s where threatened simple and clear. If winning by intimidation is okay with you, then how can we trust these people to run the gov’t and run the nation..

        3. PROPHET.T Avatar
          PROPHET.T

          Nabil,
          I made it a convenient habit to read the first sentence of your comments only. That was enough for me to remind you that M14 lost the majority regardless of what the reason. Parties switch sides in politics all the time. It is part of political life, and part of democracy. So live with it until next election or until someone decides to switch sides again. You can blame HA, Syria, Jumblat, or who ever you want to vent your anger on. Stop being a cry baby.

        4. Avatar
          Anonymous

          m8 did not win the election they stole it by lying and cheating and using a criminals ways to gain the seats that they were not elected for from march 14 ; that is democracy those are crimes against the lebaneese people

      2. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        M@M You are full of non sense.
        M14 lost the majority and the government regardless.
        My point was that Geagea would not have called for early election, had the Hariri government not collapsed,and again, regardless of how it collapsed.
        Stop arguing for the sake of arguing.

      3. PROPHET.T Avatar
        PROPHET.T

        As far as we know, M8 had the popular votes anyway.

        1. Avatar
          Anonymous

          Affirmative. M8 are the saviors of Lebanon

      4. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
        Jean Jacques Francois

        Don’t let his name fool you – this prophet specializes in preaching hatred and violence. His Hezbollah masters have trained him well in the art of democracy.

      5. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
        Jean Jacques Francois

        Don’t let his name fool you – this prophet specializes in preaching hatred and violence. His Hezbollah masters have trained him well in the art of democracy.

    2. Hannibal Avatar
      Hannibal

      Prophet
      There is a simple acid test to find out the will of the people. It is really a no brainer. I haven’t been using the system myself but just looking at the “likes” counts on this site or on other sites (except for al manar because it is filtered and skewed) you will see where the voting or the majority stands. Now there is a slight probability of an anomaly as the majority of educated well to do people and expats are pro March 14 and therefore frequent the internet more often than March 8 supporters but I doubt this theory to be true. A fair election today, one without the power of weapons or money (listen well March 14 camp) because money is a form of weapon, will give you a 60/40 ratio in favor of March 14. I wish such an election would take place because it will solve this once and for all.

      1. Jean Jacques Francois Avatar
        Jean Jacques Francois

        Hannibal, what the False Prophet fails to realize is that even though Jumblatt’s pulled the chair from under the majority, those who voted for his party in the past election did so before he surgically detached his balls and handed one to Bashar and the other to Hassoun. Anyone who thinks the people will vote for that coward and what he represents next time we get the chance is clearly tripping on acid.

  12. nabilabuzaid Avatar
    nabilabuzaid

    The truth is again even when March 14th requests are clear for the best intentions of Lebanon and Lebanese HA and their allies are ignoring them. Since when Aoun is okay with having armed groups like Ahmed Jibril or Fatah al Islam in the camps and around it? it seems to me that its okay with HA to have these groups armed and dangerous and threatening the daily lives of Lebanon and overall peace. As you long as these groups are supported by Syria HA is not saying a damn word about it. But if one March 14th group arms themselves for protection, Aoun of all puppets jump on them. But its okay for his group to arm and help terrorists to help kill other christians. Now Mr. Aoun do not want a minority objecting to the rules of March 8th or have any veto powers. He wants democracy for him and HA but not for anybody else. again no matter what small request March 14th have in place, M8 will not accept it. People these assholes have Agenda and nothing really matters to them. Tables of discussions were useless and M8 were buying time and laughing at everyone. Look at them, they never abide by Taif or Doha agreements so what makes you think they will abide by agreements. Look at HA they allowed Iranians thru many sensitives areas in Lebanon that only Lebanese army should be in charge. Yet they had no regards for anyone and not even for the President. they just don’t care and they will do what they intend to do. is to make Lebanon a state of Iran which is controlled by the Supreme Leader of Lebanon hassan Nassrallah and follow Waliet Al Faqih. Aoun and many stooges of HA are speaking on their behalf because they’re stuck with them and do not dare oppose them. Plus they give them money and power and what else scums and dirt bags needs Money and Power. Who cares about Lebanon or even their own followers after all they’re streams in the River..

    1. libnan1 Avatar
      libnan1

      Wake up Nabil, Taif is dead. Doha was a scam to give time to M13.5 so they can get their house in order. The president was elected to reside on the new reality for Lebanon. Lebanon will be a much better place when AOUN and Nassrallah share power. I’m sure Hariri will have a significant role to play if he wants to get ride of the mentality that Saudi Arabia can come to his rescue anytime he doesn’t get his way. The world will always support the true leaders of their people.

      1. nabilabuzaid Avatar
        nabilabuzaid

        Ya libnan1 – I could careless about Geagea, Amin, Hariri or whomever in power as long as they do their duty to serve the people and work toward the well being of our nation. The fact I have a mixed feelings about Hariri many times over. But Aoun has always been a flake from the beginning. He was the first one who accused Syria of Hariri’s killing. He was the one who led a revolt against the same institutions right now that was led by Syria then. I have no doubt after how HA and Syria and Iran reacted to the Assassinations of Hariri and many good people that they’re the killers. The way Syria have acted toward Lebanon no different than Israel have for the past 30 years. Anyone supports Syria and think it has good to Lebanon is my enemy as much as they consider Israel their enemy. Saudi Arabia has its own problems and is backing off because it knew that their control of Syrian Policy as they used with money is over. Iran has successfully behind the scene onfluenced Syrian’s positions and outmaneuvered everyone. SA knew it lost the battle with Iran even Syria tried to change or show its neutral from Iran influence to no avail. Bottom line is Hariri was not a great PM as of yet and he has a lot to go. But look at Lahoud 6 yrs in Presidency and he was worthless and no one on M8 barely criticized him. When Salim al Hoss, Rashid Karami, Omar Karami and many other PM did’t do so good either. But we accepted them and we tolerated them. But one thing we will not tolerate Thugs like HA who are going intimidating MP’s and the populations if their demands are not met. They killed Hariri and many good people with him and after him. You and I know fully well the STL is not going to simply accuse someone because no matter how much influences US, Israel or whomever will not influence the STL. I am not Saying that Israel didn’t have war crimes and should not prosecuted. But there is no way you convince us now even without looking at the evidence and the way Syria, Iran, HA and its allies have acted and reacted to rumors of the Verdict that they’re not guilty. I would have respected the resistance have they not done that. I would have followed them even myself have they not decided to go to war in 2006 for feeing Samir Qunatar. It was an eqgo problem for Nassrallah because Israel refused to let Samir go. so he made it a mission of his to rub israeli noses and he succeeded. I do not wish to be under his mercy to decide war and peace with me. Many Lebanese would have eventually accepted the facts of the arms of the resistance. But when you turn it against your people, then it stops here and i do not wish to have them in power no matter what. you want them in power suit yourself. But I would rather have unexperienced Hariri anyday vs thugs and criminals in power. Where was Aoun when HA sent their thugs into Christians areas to celebrate Ashura and afterward they were spitting in the populations faces and calling them dirt. this is one of small things they have done to belittle us and intimidate us. many times they cross over on their bikes and attack Christians and muslims alike. what are they doing in tripoli arming Sunnis against Sunnis? What are they doing in Jabil Mohsen to support Alwaites against Sunnis. why did the killer of the Lebanese pilot was freed and afterward HA celebrated his release with gunfires. why did Nassrallah barely cricitized Fatah AL Islam when they attacked the army? is this a man who loves his country and his army? is this a man who want to live under his control where in 80’s he swear in his speech to bring the rules of Waliet al Faqih. He has not changed his ways, but changed his words so to appease everyone. I love to live with democratic rules where i could careless whomoer sect is the president, vice president, PM and all MP’s. as long as they serve the people and work for the advancement of our nations. One we will not accept or tolerate an Iranian nor syria nor western controlled gov’t. I for one would reject any control of the US or France or anyone controlling or influencing Lebanon’s policy or gov’t. Lebanon need to live in peace and prosperity not in hegemony and war. Peace!

  13. nabilabuzaid Avatar
    nabilabuzaid

    The truth is again even when March 14th requests are clear for the best intentions of Lebanon and Lebanese HA and their allies are ignoring them. Since when Aoun is okay with having armed groups like Ahmed Jibril or Fatah al Islam in the camps and around it? it seems to me that its okay with HA to have these groups armed and dangerous and threatening the daily lives of Lebanon and overall peace. As you long as these groups are supported by Syria HA is not saying a damn word about it. But if one March 14th group arms themselves for protection, Aoun of all puppets jump on them. But its okay for his group to arm and help terrorists to help kill other christians. Now Mr. Aoun do not want a minority objecting to the rules of March 8th or have any veto powers. He wants democracy for him and HA but not for anybody else. again no matter what small request March 14th have in place, M8 will not accept it. People these assholes have Agenda and nothing really matters to them. Tables of discussions were useless and M8 were buying time and laughing at everyone. Look at them, they never abide by Taif or Doha agreements so what makes you think they will abide by agreements. Look at HA they allowed Iranians thru many sensitives areas in Lebanon that only Lebanese army should be in charge. Yet they had no regards for anyone and not even for the President. they just don’t care and they will do what they intend to do. is to make Lebanon a state of Iran which is controlled by the Supreme Leader of Lebanon hassan Nassrallah and follow Waliet Al Faqih. Aoun and many stooges of HA are speaking on their behalf because they’re stuck with them and do not dare oppose them. Plus they give them money and power and what else scums and dirt bags needs Money and Power. Who cares about Lebanon or even their own followers after all they’re streams in the River..

  14. Avatar
    Anonymous

    The truth is again even when March 14th requests are clear for the best intentions of Lebanon and Lebanese HA and their allies are ignoring them. Since when Aoun is okay with having armed groups like Ahmed Jibril or Fatah al Islam in the camps and around it? it seems to me that its okay with HA to have these groups armed and dangerous and threatening the daily lives of Lebanon and overall peace. As you long as these groups are supported by Syria HA is not saying a damn word about it. But if one March 14th group arms themselves for protection, Aoun of all puppets jump on them. But its okay for his group to arm and help terrorists to help kill other christians. Now Mr. Aoun do not want a minority objecting to the rules of March 8th or have any veto powers. He wants democracy for him and HA but not for anybody else. again no matter what small request March 14th have in place, M8 will not accept it. People these assholes have Agenda and nothing really matters to them. Tables of discussions were useless and M8 were buying time and laughing at everyone. Look at them, they never abide by Taif or Doha agreements so what makes you think they will abide by agreements. Look at HA they allowed Iranians thru many sensitives areas in Lebanon that only Lebanese army should be in charge. Yet they had no regards for anyone and not even for the President. they just don’t care and they will do what they intend to do. is to make Lebanon a state of Iran which is controlled by the Supreme Leader of Lebanon hassan Nassrallah and follow Waliet Al Faqih. Aoun and many stooges of HA are speaking on their behalf because they’re stuck with them and do not dare oppose them. Plus they give them money and power and what else scums and dirt bags needs Money and Power. Who cares about Lebanon or even their own followers after all they’re streams in the River..

    1. Avatar
      Anonymous

      Wake up Nabil, Taif is dead. Doha was a scam to give time to M13.5 so they can get their house in order. The president was elected to reside on the new reality for Lebanon. Lebanon will be a much better place when AOUN and Nassrallah share power. I’m sure Hariri will have a significant role to play if he wants to get ride of the mentality that Saudi Arabia can come to his rescue anytime he doesn’t get his way. The world will always support the true leaders of their people.

      1. Avatar
        Anonymous

        Ya libnan1 – I could careless about Geagea, Amin, Hariri or whomever in power as long as they do their duty to serve the people and work toward the well being of our nation. The fact I have a mixed feelings about Hariri many times over. But Aoun has always been a flake from the beginning. He was the first one who accused Syria of Hariri’s killing. He was the one who led a revolt against the same institutions right now that was led by Syria then. I have no doubt after how HA and Syria and Iran reacted to the Assassinations of Hariri and many good people that they’re the killers. The way Syria have acted toward Lebanon no different than Israel have for the past 30 years. Anyone supports Syria and think it has good to Lebanon is my enemy as much as they consider Israel their enemy. Saudi Arabia has its own problems and is backing off because it knew that their control of Syrian Policy as they used with money is over. Iran has successfully behind the scene onfluenced Syrian’s positions and outmaneuvered everyone. SA knew it lost the battle with Iran even Syria tried to change or show its neutral from Iran influence to no avail. Bottom line is Hariri was not a great PM as of yet and he has a lot to go. But look at Lahoud 6 yrs in Presidency and he was worthless and no one on M8 barely criticized him. When Salim al Hoss, Rashid Karami, Omar Karami and many other PM did’t do so good either. But we accepted them and we tolerated them. But one thing we will not tolerate Thugs like HA who are going intimidating MP’s and the populations if their demands are not met. They killed Hariri and many good people with him and after him. You and I know fully well the STL is not going to simply accuse someone because no matter how much influences US, Israel or whomever will not influence the STL. I am not Saying that Israel didn’t have war crimes and should not prosecuted. But there is no way you convince us now even without looking at the evidence and the way Syria, Iran, HA and its allies have acted and reacted to rumors of the Verdict that they’re not guilty. I would have respected the resistance have they not done that. I would have followed them even myself have they not decided to go to war in 2006 for feeing Samir Qunatar. It was an eqgo problem for Nassrallah because Israel refused to let Samir go. so he made it a mission of his to rub israeli noses and he succeeded. I do not wish to be under his mercy to decide war and peace with me. Many Lebanese would have eventually accepted the facts of the arms of the resistance. But when you turn it against your people, then it stops here and i do not wish to have them in power no matter what. you want them in power suit yourself. But I would rather have unexperienced Hariri anyday vs thugs and criminals in power. Where was Aoun when HA sent their thugs into Christians areas to celebrate Ashura and afterward they were spitting in the populations faces and calling them dirt. this is one of small things they have done to belittle us and intimidate us. many times they cross over on their bikes and attack Christians and muslims alike. what are they doing in tripoli arming Sunnis against Sunnis? What are they doing in Jabil Mohsen to support Alwaites against Sunnis. why did the killer of the Lebanese pilot was freed and afterward HA celebrated his release with gunfires. why did Nassrallah barely cricitized Fatah AL Islam when they attacked the army? is this a man who loves his country and his army? is this a man who want to live under his control where in 80’s he swear in his speech to bring the rules of Waliet al Faqih. He has not changed his ways, but changed his words so to appease everyone. I love to live with democratic rules where i could careless whomoer sect is the president, vice president, PM and all MP’s. as long as they serve the people and work for the advancement of our nations. One we will not accept or tolerate an Iranian nor syria nor western controlled gov’t. I for one would reject any control of the US or France or anyone controlling or influencing Lebanon’s policy or gov’t. Lebanon need to live in peace and prosperity not in hegemony and war. Peace!

  15. josephphdman Avatar
    josephphdman

    so you will have a new election and you win and march 8 steal the election from you again
    the best way is to prosecute those thieves march 8 and lock them up and then hold a free and fair election and the result will stand ;it would be probably better to call for a national demostration conducted by march 14 asking for aoun and his thieves friends march 8 to resign because they have stolen so many seats from march 14 and the lebaneese people

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar
      PROPHET.T

      Mr NO PHD,
      Who stole whose election?you make no sense . dude.

    2. PROPHET.T Avatar
      PROPHET.T

      Mr NO PHD,
      Who stole whose election?you make no sense . dude.

  16. Avatar
    Anonymous

    so you will have a new election and you win and march 8 steal the election from you again
    the best way is to prosecute the those thieves march 8 and lock them up and then hold an election you need to have a national demostration conducted by march 14 asking for aoun and his friends to resign because they have stole so many seats from march 14 and the lebaneese people

    1. PROPHET.T Avatar
      PROPHET.T

      Mr NO PHD,
      Who stole whose election?you make no sense . dude.

  17. lebnaneh Avatar
    lebnaneh

    geagea shouldn;t be the lebanese forces leader no more as he hurt so many christans people if he was a real hakim he will give it to someone else as for aoun he live in the loulou land no one can blame this piece of crap for anything but his turn will come he will be killed when the syrian finished with his face

  18. lebnaneh Avatar
    lebnaneh

    geagea shouldn;t be the lebanese forces leader no more as he hurt so many christans people if he was a real hakim he will give it to someone else as for aoun he live in the loulou land no one can blame this piece of crap for anything but his turn will come he will be killed when the syrian finished with his face

  19. Avatar
    Anonymous

    geagea shouldn;t be the lebanese forces leader no more as he hurt so many christans people if he was a real hakim he will give it to someone else as for aoun he live in the loulou land no one can blame this piece of crap for anything but his turn will come he will be killed when the syrian finished with his face

  20. guss043 Avatar
    guss043

    Geagea you dont need election to prove that the is wrong,he’s a simp,y a dictator and Lunatic and criminal

  21. guss043 Avatar
    guss043

    Geagea you dont need election to prove that the is wrong,he’s a simp,y a dictator and Lunatic and criminal

  22. Lebanon89 Avatar
    Lebanon89

    Geagea’s supporter have already appealed to have purely christians neighborhhods. Harir’s supporters yelled in the street, we don’t want Shiites in our North of Lebanon. In contrast with that, the patriotic party and Hezbollah are calling for the end of racism against Shiites or Christians, and the end of religious segregation. This is a nationalist agenda. It clashes with racist agendas. Anyone who can’t say “Lebanese nationalism”, will use escapist terms like “pro-Iran, and pro-Syrian, but why would nationalist be pro-anything other than Lebanon? They are ahead of Syrian and Iran is understanding democracy, pluralism. They’re an epicenter I think for a new kind of political mentality in our area, and it’s Iran and Syrian that will have reason to be pro-Lebanon, if you ask Lebanese nationalists.

  23. Lebanon89 Avatar
    Lebanon89

    Geagea’s supporter have already appealed to have purely christians neighborhhods. Harir’s supporters yelled in the street, we don’t want Shiites in our North of Lebanon. In contrast with that, the patriotic party and Hezbollah are calling for the end of racism against Shiites or Christians, and the end of religious segregation. This is a nationalist agenda. It clashes with racist agendas. Anyone who can’t say “Lebanese nationalism”, will use escapist terms like “pro-Iran, and pro-Syrian, but why would nationalist be pro-anything other than Lebanon? They are ahead of Syrian and Iran is understanding democracy, pluralism. They’re an epicenter I think for a new kind of political mentality in our area, and it’s Iran and Syrian that will have reason to be pro-Lebanon, if you ask Lebanese nationalists.

  24. Avatar
    Anonymous

    Geagea’s supporter have already appealed to have purely christians neighborhhods. Harir’s supporters yelled in the street, we don’t want Shiites in our North of Lebanon. In contrast with that, the patriotic party and Hezbollah are calling for the end of racism against Shiites or Christians, and the end of religious segregation. This is a nationalist agenda. It clashes with racist agendas. Anyone who can’t say “Lebanese nationalism”, will use escapist terms like “pro-Iran, and pro-Syrian, but why would nationalist be pro-anything other than Lebanon? They are ahead of Syrian and Iran is understanding democracy, pluralism. They’re an epicenter I think for a new kind of political mentality in our area, and it’s Iran and Syrian that will have reason to be pro-Lebanon, if you ask Lebanese nationalists.

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