Syria’s Assad is scared and Isolated as regime crumbles

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His official portrait still refers to Bashar al-Assad as “The Hope” of the Syrian nation, but signs are increasing that the man who presides over Syria’s embattled government has little of it left for himself.

Accounts of conditions inside the Syrian regime in recent days have shed new light on the psychological toll of the nearly two-year-old civil war on Assad, depicting the Syrian leader as isolated and fearful as his regime appears to be on the verge of crumbling around him.

After months of nearly continuous setbacks for his government, Assad all but vanished from public view in recent weeks, giving no interviews or speeches and making no “live” appearances on state-run television. U.S. and Middle Eastern officials now say Assad is nearly as invisible within the shrinking world of his presidency, restricting contacts to a small circle of family members and trusted advisers.

Forgoing any public effort to rally his beleaguered forces, Assad has focused on his personal safety, according to analysts and news accounts.

Syrian media and activist accounts recorded the shift, describing the president increasing his security detail, moving to a different bedroom each night and tightening controls over food preparation to thwart would-be assassins. The reports could not be independently confirmed.

Moreover, Middle Eastern intelligence officials, citing accounts from defectors that could not be verified, say Assad has ceased going outdoors during daylight hours, apparently out of fear that he will be hit by a sniper’s bullet or other fire.

“His movements suggest a constant state of fear,” a Middle Eastern official said on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive intelligence.

Assad’s words, however, continue to convey a resolve to remain in power. In his last televised interview in early November, the Syrian president vowed to “live in Syria and die in Syria.”

He showed no change of heart and little willingness to compromise during private meetings with U.N. officials who traveled to Damascus this week to discuss a plan for a transitional government. Officials briefed on the meetings said Assad appeared poised and confident.

Even as the U.N. sessions were underway, Syrian diplomats were being dispatched to Moscow — one of Assad’s few remaining allies — to discuss prospects for a cease-fire amid increasing signs that Syria’s armed forces are nearing collapse in many parts of the country in the face of increasingly effective rebel assaults.

Previous efforts to negotiate a settlement have foundered, but some Russian and U.N. Security Council officials expressed cautious optimism about the latest round of talks even as the rebel advances raise questions about whether they would accept anything short of outright victory.

“Things appear to be moving very quickly,” said a U.N.-based official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to discuss the matter. “Events on the ground might sort things out before things are sorted out in the council or in capitals.”

U.S. officials declined to discuss the mood within Assad’s inner circle, but one senior official with access to intelligence reports said the rebels’ steady advance on Damascus was having an inevitable impact.

“Assad may still believe Syria is his, but the psychological strain of struggling against a determined and resourceful foe has to be taking its toll,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity in discussing intelligence.

U.S. officials say the sense of isolation within the presidential palace has been reinforced by new defections — most recently by the chief of Syria’s military police — as well as moves by Syria’s few remaining allies to distance themselves from the 47-year-old dictator. In a major psychological blow, Russian President Vladi­mir Putin last week said Russia was “not concerned with the fate of Assad’s regime.”

“Putin’s comments hit particularly hard,” the Middle Eastern intelligence official said. “With the Russians pulling back, there’s increasingly a feeling that the ship is sinking.”

The concerns about personal safety for Assad and his staff also have been reinforced by a string of attacks targeting top regime officials. A rebel bombing of a secret cabinet meeting in July killed three of Assad’s senior security advisers, including his brother-in-law, who was the deputy defense minister.

The regime also has suffered setbacks on the battlefield, as its forces lose ground across all but two of the country’s 14 provinces. Military analysts say Syrian troops are being killed at a rate of about 1,000 a month, and even elite units appear to have lost the ability to mount sustained offensives.

“The most likely prospects are for the regime’s position to deteriorate further, perhaps dramatically, in the weeks ahead,” said Jeffrey White, a former military analyst for the Pentagon’s Defense Intelligence Agency.

As the regime’s control appears to slip, Assad is relying on an ever-shrinking circle of aides — almost all of them members of his Alawite sect. U.S. and Middle Eastern analysts say the inner-sanctum is made up of hard-liners, including some who seem determined to hold on until the end.

Like Assad, the president’s advisers have shown no hint of willingness to compromise, said Andrew Tabler, author of “In the Lion’s Den,” a book about the Assad regime. Indeed, despite repeated efforts by Western governments to woo away regime officials, “there have been no major defections by senior Alawite officials,” Tabler said.

Since the start of the conflict, various experts have predicted that Alawite leaders eventually would abandon Assad or, conversely, that the president would betray his kinsmen for the promise of safe refuge in exile. Neither prediction has come to pass, even as the regime suffers losses of territory, troops, resources and — it would seem — hope.

“Assad’s levers of influence are fraying and his reach is contracting, but the regime core is a tough nut that doesn’t seem to be cracking just yet,” the senior U.S. official said. “Although pressure is mounting, it’s difficult to say when the breaking point will come because there’s little to suggest that Assad is a cut-and-run kind of guy.”

Washington Post

Photo: Two boys tear a poster of Syria’s President Bashar al-Assad at the army base at Hawa village, north Aleppo.

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101 responses to “Syria’s Assad is scared and Isolated as regime crumbles”

  1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
    nagy_michael2

    He looks so tough here in picture.. he is only tough on his people and Lebanese.. but when it came to Israel he left the it to Hezbollah his slaves to do his war bidding.. I don’t care anymore who replaces him as long he is gone along with his family the gangs of terror and financial scammers. And please pass by Dahia and take Nassrallah and Aoun with you. And Please Please do not forget to take Bassil the con artist too. Happy New Year!

    1. FreetheME Avatar
      FreetheME

      Maybe your hero the mass murderer terrorist Geagea could be a good candidate. Sure that would make you happy. After all Nagy, it is quite clear that people like you are ok to turn a blind eye when it come to a particular person you support even though they have caused atrocities. They call that being biased Nagy. However each to their own. Happy New Year.

      1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        so Geagea is a mass murder but the franjieh clan who killed people for fun are good people in your mind? so the syrians who massacred christians and muslims in Lebanon for 30 yrs are good people in your mind? so the hezbollah who terrorize lebanon and kill M14 leaders on montly basis are good people in your mind. FeetheMiddle East from your kind and extremists and we will live just fine. I think Geagea, jumblatt and many others including the upper hezbollah leaders should be executed? what do you think of that?

  2. nagy_michael2 Avatar
    nagy_michael2

    He looks so tough here in picture.. he is only tough on his people and Lebanese.. but when it came to Israel he left the it to Hezbollah his slaves to do his war bidding.. I don’t care anymore who replaces him as long he is gone along with his family the gangs of terror and financial scammers. And please pass by Dahia and take Nassrallah and Aoun with you. And Please Please do not forget to take Bassil the con artist too. Happy New Year!

    1. FreetheME Avatar
      FreetheME

      Maybe your hero the mass murderer terrorist Geagea could be a good candidate. Sure that would make you happy. After all Nagy, it is quite clear that people like are ok to turn a blind eye when it come to a particular person you support even though they have caused atrocities. They call that being biased Nagy. However each to their own. Happy New Year.

      1. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        so Geagea is a mass murder but the franjieh clan who killed people for fun are good people in your mind? so the syrians who massacred christians and muslims in Lebanon for 30 yrs are good people in your mind? so the hezbollah who terrorize lebanon and kill M14 leaders on montly basis are good people in your mind. FeetheMiddle East from your kind and extremists and we will live just fine. I think Geagea, jumblatt and many others including the upper hezbollah leaders should be executed? what do you think of that?

  3. The end is very near….two to three weeks maximum…he is toast…what goes around, comes around…for what his family did to Lebanon, he will burn in hell and hang by his balls…very soon

    1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
      Mahdi Kenaani

      stop breaking wind…

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Mahdi, If you don’t mind me asking, where are you from,and where do you live?

        1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          i dont mind but first why are you interested? where do you think i am from and where do you think i live? 

          and wouldnt it be easier to hack my account? 

        2. Mahdi is an Iranian spy…

        3. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          Hannial, Why is it that everyone who disagrees with you has to be some spy?Spy on what? Yalibnan? You’d be insulting espionage if you think anyone wants to spy on this site. No one has accused you of being a spy for any country because of the views you hold.Why can’t we all have a new start at the start of New year?
          Happy New Year.

        4. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          dear prophettttttttttttttt i am an iraniAngel to the bone. Not an entirely persiAngel though.. however i love iran and all iraniAngels alike.. actually the iranian diversity makes me love iran even more and iran wouldnt be the same with just one ethnicity or religious community lacking.  Iran is my love, Iran is my dream, Iran is my passion, Iran is my life… every time i hear the word iran my heart beat speeds up… and i have yet to meet an iraniAngel who doesnt feel the same way about iran… it happens that we have different political stands but we all love our nation and will always defend it against any aggressor.. even the arab community was in the front line defending our country alongside all other iranians in the war back in the 80’s. 
          But i am a muslim before that, which means that i support our regime despite all its lacks, because its actually helping palestine and lebanon against the israHELLi aggression. this is why i think arab jarabs should appreciate the current iranian regime a little bit more due to the fact that 99 % of the iraniangels want closer ties with the united shit of americancer. in case of a regime change you would never get a lebanon-caring country out of iran with its people craving a western way of life. i am not saying that things are gonna get hostile, but yunno wat i mean…

      2. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Mahdi; No worries&No Panic lol. Where people come from,and where they live may  explain some of their views. 
        I have no particular reason for asking, but curiosity has its own reasons for existing. The fear that your account could be hacked if people knew where you live is not  realistic,unless you keep your banking information on your DISQUS Account.lol
        Happy New Year

        1. oh Prophet you are such a suit… You lost your sense of humor… A spy does not show his true colors…

        2.  So because you are from the South of Lebanon then that explains your views?? That’s really generalizing don’t you think?

        3. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          Hannibal,You’ve got a point there, Maybe I’m loosing My sense of humor. I’m visiting geo soon,and we’ll party together. That should loosen me up a bit.lol

          Preview, No doubt that having bee born in the south, within eye sight of the border,and experiencing  certain events  have played a role in shaping some of my views. That being said, people learn from experiences,and I assure you that I have learned to turn wounds to wisdom and love,and tolerance.
          I was not generalizing that your birthplace alone defines you and your views. Your birth place is just one factor. So loosen up a bit,and Happy New Year.

      3.  No it wouldn’t be easier to hack your account, it would be easier to ASK you. Not to mention it would be extremely rude and invasive to hack one’s account. But the fact this has to be pointed out to you is quite alarming.

      4. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Mehdi, 
        I respect and appreciate your passion toward your nation,and You, like many Iranians who I have met over the years,are proud of your nation and its culture and history. I know many Persians who happened to be Jews,yet they have the same passion  and pride toward Iran  despite their disapproval of its Political system….I have to admit that Persian women are exotic,and having met many of them through the nature of the business I was involved in for many years, I have to say that they know how to party!!!!
        I agree with you that the Arabs (regimes and elites especially) have abandoned the Palestinians cause years ago,but not so much Arab Public.The majority of Arabs are oppressed and are  too busy trying to make ends meet,While their leaders are busy scaring them of the “Persian threat”instead of facing off the biggest threat to the region,Israel,which was created through aggression,occupation and ethnic cleansing.

        Speaking of the war between Iran and Iraq without without getting into right and wrong, I always remind people who accuse Iraqi Shiia of being followers of Iran,that Iraqi Shiia fought against Iran with the same passion as other Iraqis,and their Iraqi nationality came first.And I always tell people that Shiia of Lebanon will always  be Lebanese first in spite of all accusations thrown at them because of the Iranian Support.
        Being a Lebanese American myself, I disprove of your characterization  of America,and would urge you to separate your views of America as a nation and its policy. You know that many ignorant people around the world bad mouth Iran,as a nation ,and its people and culture  because they dislike the political system or the form of government of Iran,and that is wrong too.It is wrong to do so that to any nation.
        Happy New year to you and to all. I’m happy that because of me asking you where you were from, You and Hannibal are starting the new year on a better note.Some good came out of it. lol

        1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          first of all happy new year to you too.
          i disagree with two points. 

          1) its islamically very inappropriate to put one’s nationality and ethnicity above one’s islamic identity. One should never ever do that. yes i know i just stated that i love my country, but i also stated that i was a muslim before being an iranian.
          you see like the vast majority of the iraniangels im not that religious but nevertheless i want every muslim to prosper and that will only happen if we start working together and defending each other. being a shia i believe that an estabilishment of an islamic caliphate is unrealistic to put it mild until imam mahdi arrives so a caliphate is in no way what im looking for.
          what i want is something like nato or eu. as ironic as it may sound the westerners behave more according to islam than muslims. just like nato does with its member states all muslims should literally line up and defend palestinians every time israHELL starts killing palestinians  this is what the muslim world is in a desperate need of – a nato-like organization to protect all muslims and all its citizens including those of other faiths. 
          but i am not naive. i am very well aware of the fact that this is probably not gonna happen in my life time. 

          2) i think we all agree that unlike iran the united shit of americancer is a democracy where the ppl elect their president to do what ever the ppl want. so basically the killings of muslims is the desire of the american ppl otherwise they could replace this #1 killer machine just like that which is why i will blame the americans till the day they stop killing ppl all around the world.

        2. Hannibal Avatar

          @google-dfa4d308a094502c2b5ad7d89e8e3fcb:disqus You state: “all muslims should literally line up and defend palestinians every time israHELL starts killing palestinians” However, before the state of Israel came to be and until now Palestinian Christians who made up 50% of the land population were targeted as well. Would the Islamic state come to their rescue or should they be attacked it is the job of the Christian EU to come help them?Then you say that one should put his religion before his state… So if Lebanon goes to war against a moslem state all moslems should sit it out… and if Lebanon is attacked by a Christian state the Christians of Lebanon should not defend their country.
          You confuse the hell out of me Mahdi… I think you need some reevaluation of your values. 

        3. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          @hbarca:disqus  please re-read my post. I said the following: a nato-like organization to protect all muslims and all its citizens including those of other faiths. 

          and who told you that eu was a christian organization? neither eu nor nato has anything to do with religion.

        4. Leborigine Avatar
          Leborigine

          @google-dfa4d308a094502c2b5ad7d89e8e3fcb:disqus You are an extremely confused soul and I can now understand most of your issues including your buddies who like your comments. First of all, in my opinion, anyone who puts their religion before their nation is an absolute retard and should be hospitilized accordingly. Religion is a personal way of communicating with your Creator, abiding by certain rules and believing in something that could be 95% fiction. Whereas your country is shared by other people who believe in a land that exists right before your eyes, they have different religions but have a common nation. Unfortunately, I do not want people like you in my country, Lebanon will not survive at all with people in your mental state, actually, no country at all will survive with people in your state unless that country is 110% same exact sect religion.

        5. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          Mehdi; My best wishes to you, and to all on the first day of 2013.
          We won’t always see eye to eye on every point, otherwise the idea of debate loses its purpose.
          Being a Lebanese, and having to witness all the sectarian divisions makes me disagree with You on whether some one’s religion should always come ahead of nationality, however, I will concede to you that some one’s faith can be as important as his nationality.
          When you have a nation like Lebanon of more than 17 sects, with each sect becoming more important than the national identity, then you will end up with 17 different identities. That becomes cancerous and destructive for the idea of a nation. There has to be a balance between someone’s faith, and his national identity; an identity shared with others of different faiths.
          As for the Palestinian cause, I believe that The Palestinian cause is one of the noblest causes of our modern times. No people in our modern times have suffered as much as the Palestinian people; Christians and Muslims alike .It is a cause that should be supported by all people, not only Muslims. Aside from governments’ policies, the majority of the world population, from all faiths, sympathies and support the Palestinian cause, but I have to admit that the world cannot be more Palestinian than Arabs and Palestinians themselves. I do balm Arab regimes, and the Palestinian leadership for the situation the Palestinians are in as well.
          I’m not against Muslim countries working together in supporting Palestinians, but I would not want this cause to become a “Muslim cause” per say. Muslims and Christians have the same obligations to oppose the illegitimate entity called Israel. This entity was built on false biblical claims, racist idea, and aggressive methods such as total denial of an entire people identity and existence, killings, ethnic cleansing, occupation, and segregation……. This entity has no future; it is doomed to be dismantled. Yes they have nuclear weapons and a strong killing machine, but People have not noticed that because of the nature of this state, it became more of prison for its own people, protected with a killing machine. To that I would borrow a famous saying “lies have speed, but truth has endurance”. This is about right and wrong, and might is not always right, and if it is, it won’t last forever.
          If one is to examine the religious important of this conflict, Jerusalem is as important to Christian as it is to Muslims and Jews, therefore the false claim that God promised the Jews this land goes against everything humanity believes about God. In fact this false claim negates both Christianity and Islam. It also sends the wrong impression that God is not fair by preferring a small number of his creatures over the rest, since God is fair and has created all human equally.
          On your second point of disagreement with me; I would ask you, for the sake of argument and as an example only, whether you’d want all Iranians to pay a price for electing a president who is not “favored” by other nations, or whether the entire Iranian population should be responsible for the policies or the form of government. I think not.
          Even with the Israelis, I separate my views of their illegitimate Nation and the individual Israeli human being.

        6. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          @Leborigine:disqus Yes i will always put my religion before my nation so have me hospitillized. 
          Relgion is in no way only a personal matter. if this is what you think about religion then you dont have a clue about religion.
          You think lebanon wouldnt survive with people like me? dear leborigine lebanon wouldnt survive withOUT people like me.. 
          do you even have a sense of reality? if you do then open up your eyes and face where the world is heading! the talk about nationalism outdated right after ww2!!!! In a century of globalization the magical word for survival is COOPERATION with other countries you have something in common with and in the middle east islam is what we have in common!!!!

        7. Leborigine Avatar
          Leborigine

          @google-dfa4d308a094502c2b5ad7d89e8e3fcb:disqus Really!!! So let me get this straight, what you are trying to say is that you would prefer and get along with a Phillipino or Indonesian muslim than you would an iranian Zoroastrian or Christian?! Or maybe I should make that easier, so you want the Lebanese Shiites to put Islam first and favor iranian Shiites over Lebanon (which HA is doing right now anyway) or their Lebanese compatriots?? So then you do not have a problem with me siding with the Great Nation of The United States Of America only because the majority are Christians against my fellow Lebanese who follow Islam or the great Druze religions!!
          You are really Fu%$#ng retarded and I can see why iran is going down. I dare any Lebanese on this site to agree with you, I know for a fact that none will, and thats including all the pro iranians!
          Religion IS A PERSONAL MATTER and the world will run better with it only being a personal matter, unless it is an open religion that does not enforce its ideoligies onto others. 50% of Australians are athiests and we live in the best country in the world because no one cares what you believe in!

        8. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          @Leborigine:disqus you have some serious understanding issues!!! what i would prefer is to get along with a phillipino and a indonesian muslim AND all other citizens of muslim countries!! is that SO hard to understand!???!!!!! Dont you even have a SMALL brain where this SINGLE PIECE OF information can settle !!!!You freakin’ skank, what i said was that muslim countries should create an organization where they could cooperate on common issues/interests just like the european unioun!! thats why i dont give a fucking shit if 50% of the australians are atheists thats not relevant you piece of crap!!!!
          I neither care what asshole you personally may worship although i strongly suspect that my asshole is your god .. 
          And yeah you just stay down there, all right, the middle east is obviously not in need of your incompetence!.
          and the americans and the europeans will never side by lebanese christians because no westerner really cares about you so keep on dreaming!!!

          beside why on earth are you that keen on lebanese nationalism, a country created by france less than 70 years ago. even my grandma is older than that!!!

          IrAngel isnt going down you nasty fucktard! irangel is the 17th (PPP) and 25th (GPD) richest country in the world!!!!! add to that, despite all the sanctions iran prospers in all fields such as science!!! no country in the ME can match that beside israHELL and turkey!! But disgusting arabs like you, well, have no brain to even understand simple stuff like this!!! 

          one last thing!!!!! stop ruining my day by being such a goddamn fuckface!!!

        9. Leborigine Avatar
          Leborigine

          Hahaha, you truely are a moron, i might add an under rated moron!! Judging by your language and reaction, you are a weak, uneducated and uncivilised Neanderthal, which does not surprise me, you being from a desert that Alexander The Great defeated an army that was 10 times larger than his own!! iran is a wasteland full of losers and jawheads and NOTHING civilised will or ever come out of iran.

          So far, I know that I have a larger brain than yours despite the size of mine. Muslim countries will never have a union you imbecile. The Great European Union is united on the basis of economy, finance, region etc etc and not religion. Christianity has nothing to do with the European Union at all, even a donkey can understand that, and you want a union of muslim countries just based on islam – do yo live in a cave??! 50% of Australians are atheists is relevant, just to show you that religion is not important as much as your country. I do apologise though that I forgot that you are from iran the sandal country and I DO NOW understand why you place so much importance on religion than your Wasteland.

          A lot of Gay people that I know, who are on the receiving end think that their asshole is god due to the worship and pounding that it receives from the dominant partner. Once again judging from your reaction, you do sound like a pillow biter.

          I will definitely stay down here! Why would I go back to a country full of idiots like you. The only time I would go to Lebanon is when every Lebanese puts their country first like I do, and not their religion.

          I don’t know where you got that I want the Americans and Europeans to side with Lebanon, but, once again I am talking to a Piece Of $Z1t who thinks that he knows everthing!

          Lebanese nationalism is something that neither you or your grandmother can understand. Lebanon is older than any dwelling cave that your great great great great great grandmother crawled out from in that wasteland that you call iran. Once again, get an education and you will know why we love our country more than you love your religion ya 5ara.

          Finally, iran will go down, and it will go down like a sack of shit. There is no place for second best, let alone 17th and 25th. Stick those numbers where the sun don’t shine, they mean nothing. A wasteland is a wasteland, even if its number one, its still a wasteland!

      5. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        It seems your president is breaking the winds in Iran by calling on the minority who are owning the 90% of the wealth in iran to spread it around. But those so called religious scumbags do not wish to spread the wealth around and want to keep it for themselves. The way I see it if the west and israel didn’t destroy Iran war machine, the people will revolt against your economic oppressions. I predict Iran regime give it max 10 years to be realistic will fall and the people will take what is rightfully theirs. You and Nassrallah will be crying because you will not have money from these low life mullahs. Oh wait nassrallah gangs are selling bad meat, bad medicine, drugs and pirating CD and God knows ever scam on earth in order to support their so called resistance.. so maybe they’re smart thinking ahead just in case..

        1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          yeah exactly lets be realistic. you give the current iraniangel regime 10 years.. still keeping it realistic i give lebanon 10 years and TEN minutes at top… but since the new iranian regime will be an ally of israHELL lebanon will be leveled to the ground in a much shorter period of time… probably only in 5 minutes… tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock.. and just for the record this isnt a song of kesha – this is reality. then you will find yourself crying your eyes out and not me.. in fact i totally agree that iran would be better off without this islamic dictatorship. the question is whether lebanon would be better off without the iranian regime or not… enjoy your last 10 years and 5 minutes to death

    2. FreetheME Avatar
      FreetheME

      WOW, Nostradamus has been resurrected. The predictions are getting better and better. The scary thing is you probably believe the crap you wrote.

    3. AntiFSA Avatar

      Still waiting for this end you spoke off so long ago. Oh, wait a minute, could you have meant to say two to three years maybe.

  4. The end is very near….two to three weeks maximum…he is toast…what goes around, comes around…for what his family did to Lebanon, he will burn in hell and hang by his balls…very soon

    1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
      Mahdi Kenaani

      stop breaking wind…

      1. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Mahdi, If you don’t mind me asking, where are you from,and where do you live?

        1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          i dont mind but first why are you interested? where do you think i am from and where do you think i live? 

          and wouldnt it be easier to hack my account? 

        2. Mahdi is an Iranian spy…

        3. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          Hannial, Why is it that everyone who disagrees with you has to be some spy?No one has accused you of being a spy for any country because of the views you hold.Why can’t we all have a new start at the start of New year?
          Happy New Year.

        4. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          dear prophettttttttttttttt i am an iraniAngel to the bone. Not an entirely persiAngel though.. however i love iran and all iraniAngels alike.. actually the iranian diversity makes me love iran even more and iran wouldnt be the same with just one ethnicity or religous community lacking.  Iran is my love, Iran is my dream, Iran is my passion, Iran is my life… every time i hear the word iran my heart beat speeds up… and i have yet to meet an iraniAngel who doesnt feel the same way about iran… it happens that we politically disagree but the great part is that we love our nation and will always defend it against any aggressor.. even the arab community was in the front line defending our country alongside all other iranians in the war back in the 80’s. 
          But i am a muslim before that, which means that i support our regime despite all its lacks, because its actually helping palestine and lebanon against the israHELLi aggression. this is why i think arab jarabs should appreciate the current iranian regime a little bit more due to the fact that 99 % of the iraniangels want closer ties with the united shit of americancer. in case of a regime change you would never get a lebanon-caring country out of iran with its people craving a western way of life. i am not saying that things are gonna get hostile, but yunno wat i mean…

      2. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Mahdi; No worries&No Panic lol. Where people come from,and where they live may  explain their views. 
        I have no particular reason for asking, but curiosity has its own reasons for existing. The fear that your account could be hacked if people knew where you live is not  realistic,uless you keep your banking information on yalibnan site,lol
        Happy New Year

        1. oh Prophet you are such a suit… You lost your sense of humor… A spy does not show his true colors…

        2.  So because you are from the South of Lebanon then that explains your views?? That’s really generalizing don’t you think?

        3. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          Hannibal,You’ve got a point there, Maybe I’m loosing My sense of humor. I’m visiting geo soon,and we’ll party together. That should loosen me up a bit.lol

          Preview, No doubt that having bee born in the south, within eye sight of the border,and experiencing  certain events  have played a role in shaping some of my views. That being said, people learn from experiences,and I assure you that I have learned to turn wounds to wisdom and love,and tolerance.
          I was not generalizing that your birthplace alone defines you and your views. Your birth place is just one factor. So loosen up a bit,and Happy New Year.

      3.  No it wouldn’t be easier to hack your account, it would be easier to ASK you. Not to mention it would be extremely rude and invasive to hack one’s account. But the fact this has to be pointed out to you is quite alarming.

      4. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Mehdi, 
        I respect and appreciate your passion toward your nation,and You, like many Iranians who I have met over the years,are proud of your nation and its culture and history. I know many Persians who happened to be Jews,yet they have the same passion  and pride toward Iran  despite their disapproval of its Political system….I have to admit that Persian women are exotic,and having met many of them through the nature of the business I was involved in for many years, I have to say that they know how to party!!!!
        I agree with you that the Arabs (regimes and elites especially) have abandoned the Palestinians cause years ago,but not so much Arab Public.The majority of Arabs are oppressed and are  too busy trying to make ends meet,While their leaders are busy scaring them of the “Persian threat”instead of facing off the biggest threat to the region,Israel,which was created through aggression,occupation and ethnic cleansing.

        Speaking of the war between Iran and Iraq without without getting into right and wrong, I always remind people who accuse Iraqi Shiia of being followers of Iran,that Iraqi Shiia fought against Iran with the same passion as other Iraqis,and their Iraqi nationality came first.And I always tell people that Shiia of Lebanon will always  be Lebanese first in spite of all accusations thrown at them because of the Iranian Support.
        Being a Lebanese American myself, I disprove of your characterization  of America,and would urge you to separate your views of America as a nation and its policy. You know that many ignorant people around the world bad mouth Iran,as a nation ,and its people and culture  because they dislike the political system or the form of government of Iran,and that is wrong too.It is wrong to do so that to any nation.
        Happy New years,and I’m happy that because of me asking you where you were from, You and Hannibal are starting the new year on a better note. lol

        1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          first of all happy new year to you to.
          i disagree with two points. 

          1) its islamically very inappropriate to put one’s nationality and ethnicity above one’s islamic identity. One should never ever do that. yes i know i just stated that i love my country, but i also stated that i was a musim before being an iranian.
          you see like the vast majority of the iraniangels im not that religious but nevertheless i want every muslim to prosper and that will only happen if we start working together and defending each other. being a shia i believe that an estabilishment of an islamic caliphate is unrealistic to put it mild until imam mahdi arrives so a caliphate is in no way what im looking for.
          what i want is something like nato or eu. as ironic as it may sound the westerners behave more according to islam than muslims. just like nato does with its member states all muslims should literally line up and defend palestinians every time israHELL starts killing palestinians  this is what the muslim world is in a desperate need of – a nato-like organization to protect all muslims and all its citizens including those of other faiths. 
          but i am not naive. i am very well aware of the fact that this is probably not gonna happen in my life time. 

          2) i think we all agree that unlike iran the united shit of americancer is a democracy where the ppl elect their president to do what ever the ppl want. so basically the killings of muslims is the desire of the american ppl otherwise they could replace this #1 killer machine just like that which is why i will blame the americans till the day they stop killing ppl all around the world.

        2. Hannibal Avatar

          @google-dfa4d308a094502c2b5ad7d89e8e3fcb:disqus You state: “all muslims should literally line up and defend palestinians every time israHELL starts killing palestinians” However, before the state of Israel came to be and until now Palestinian Christians who made up 50% of the land population were targeted as well. Would the Islamic state come to their rescue or should they be attacked it is the job of the Christian EU to come help them?Then you say that one should put his religion before his state… So if Lebanon goes to war against a moslem state all moslems should sit it out… and if Lebanon is attacked by a Christian state the Christians of Lebanon should not defend their country.
          You confuse the hell out of me Mahdi… I think you need some reevaluation of your values. 

        3. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          @hbarca:disqus  please re-read my post. I said the following: a nato-like organization to protect all muslims and all its citizens including those of other faiths. 

        4. Leborigine Avatar
          Leborigine

          @google-dfa4d308a094502c2b5ad7d89e8e3fcb:disqus You are an extremely confused soul and I can now understand most of your issues including your buddies who like your comments. First of all, in my opinion, anyone who puts their religion before their nation is an absolute retard and should be hospitilized accordingly. Religion is a personal way of communicating with your Creator, abiding by certain rules and believing in something that could be 95% fiction. Whereas your country is shared by other people who believe in a land that exists right before your eyes, they have different religions but have a common nation. Unfortunately, I do not want people like you in my country, Lebanon will not survive at all with people in your mental state, actually, no country at all will survive with people in your state unless that country is 110% same exact sect religion.

        5. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          Mehdi; My best wishes to you, and to all on the first day of 2013.
          It’s obvious, and very natural that we can’t always see eye to eye on every point, otherwise the idea of debate loses its purpose.
          Being a Lebanese, and having to witness all the sectarian divisions makes me disagree with You on whether some one’s religion should always come ahead of nationality, however, I will concede to you that some one’s faith can be as important as his nationality.
          When you have a nation like Lebanon of more than 17 sects, with each sect becoming more important than the national identity, then you will end up with 17 different identities. That becomes cancerous and destructive for the idea of a nation. There has to be a balance between someone’s faith, and his national identity; an identity shared with others of different faiths.
          As for the Palestinian cause, I believe that The Palestinian cause is one of the noblest causes of our modern times. No people in our modern times have suffered as much as the Palestinian people; Christians and Muslims alike .It is a cause that should be supported by all people, not only Muslims. Aside from governments’ policies, the majority of the world population, from all faiths, sympathies and support the Palestinian cause, but I have to admit that the world cannot be more Palestinian than Arabs and Palestinians themselves. I do balm Arab regimes, and the Palestinian leadership for the situation the Palestinians are in as well.
          I’m not against Muslim countries working together in supporting Palestinians, but I would not want this cause to become a “Muslim cause” per say. Muslims and Christians have the same obligations to oppose the illegitimate entity called Israel. This entity was built on false biblical claims, racist idea, and aggressive methods such as total denial of an entire people, killings, ethnic cleansing, occupation, and segregation. This entity has no future; it is doomed to be dismantled. Yes they have nuclear weapons and a strong killing machine, but People have not noticed that because of the nature of this state, it became more of prison for its own people, protected with a killing machine. To that I would borrow a famous saying “lies have speed, but truth has endurance”. This is about right and wrong, and might is not always right, and if it is, it won’t last forever.
          If one is to examine the religious important of this conflict, Jerusalem is as important to Christian as it is to Muslims and Jews, therefore the false claim that God promised the Jews this land goes against everything humanity believes about God. In fact this false claim negates both Christianity and Islam. It also sends the wrong impression that God is not fair by preferring a small number of his creatures over the rest, since God is fair and has created all human equally.
          On your second point of disagreement with me; I would ask you, for the sake of argument and as an example only, whether you’d want all Iranians to pay a price for electing a president who is not “favored” by other nations, or whether the entire Iranian population should be responsible for the policies or the form of government. I think not.
          Even with the Israelis, I separate my views of their illegitimate Nation and the individual Israeli human being.

        6. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          @Leborigine:disqus Yes i will always put my religion before my nation so have me hospitillized. 
          Relgion is in no way only a personal matter. if this is what you think about religion then you dont have a clue about religion.
          You think lebanon wouldnt survive with people like me? dear leborigine lebanon wouldnt survive withOUT people like me.. 
          do you even have a sense of reality? if you do then open up your eyes and face where the world is heading! the talk about nationalism outdated right after ww2. in the century of globalization the magic word for survival is COOPERATION with other countries you have something in common with and in the middle east islam is what we have in common!!!! 

        7. Leborigine Avatar
          Leborigine

          @google-dfa4d308a094502c2b5ad7d89e8e3fcb:disqus Really!!! So let me get this straight, what you are trying to say is that you would prefer and get along with a Phillipino or Indonesian muslim than you would an iranian Zoroastrian or Christian?! Or maybe I should make that easier, so you want the Lebanese Shiites to put Islam first and favor iranian Shiites over Lebanon (which HA is doing right now anyway) or their Lebanese compatriots?? So then you do not have a problem with me siding with the Great Nation of The United States Of America only because the majority are Christians against my fellow Lebanese who follow Islam or the great Druze religions!!
          You are really Fu%$#ng retarded and I can see why iran is going down. I dare any Lebanese on this site to agree with you, I know for a fact that none will, and thats including all the pro iranians!
          Religion IS A PERSONAL MATTER and the world will run better with it only being a personal matter, unless it is an open religion that does not enforce its ideoligies onto others. 50% of Australians are athiests and we live in the best country in the world because no one cares what you believe in!

        8. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          @Leborigine:disqus you have some serious understanding issues!!! what i would prefer is to get along with a phillipino and a indonesian muslim AND all other citizens of muslim countries!! is that SO hard to understand!???!!!!! Dont you even have a SMALL brain where this SINGLE PIECE OF information can settle !!!!You freakin’ skank, what i said was that muslim countries should create an organization where they could cooperate on common issues/interests just like the european unioun!! thats why i dont give a fucking shit if 50% of the australians are atheists thats not relevant you piece of crap!!!!
          I neither care what asshole you personally may worship although i strongly suspect that my asshole is your god .. 
          And yeah you just stay down there, all right, the middle east is obviously not in need of your incompetence!.
          and the americans and the europeans will never side by lebanese christians because no westerners really care about you so keep on dreaming!!!

          beside why on earth are you that keen on lebanese nationalism, a country created by france less than 70 years ago. even my grandma is older than that!!!

          IrAngel is going everywhere but down you nasty fucktard! irangel is the 17th (PPP) and 25th (GPD) richest country in the world!!!!! add to that, despite all the sanctions iran prospers in all fields such as science!!! no country in the ME can match that beside israHELL and turkey!! But disgusting arabs like you, well, have no brain to even understand simple stuff like this!!! 

          one last thing!!!!! stop ruining my day by being such a goddamn fuckface!!! 

        9. Leborigine Avatar
          Leborigine

          Hahaha, you truely are a moron, i might add an under rated moron!! Judging by your language and reaction, you are a weak, uneducated and uncivilised Neanderthal, which does not surprise me, you being from a desert that Alexander The Great defeated an army that was 10 times larger than his own!! iran is a wasteland full of losers and jawheads and NOTHING civilised will or ever come out of iran.

          So far, I know that I have a larger brain than yours despite the size of mine. Muslim countries will never have a union you imbecile. The Great European Union is united on the basis of economy, finance, region etc etc and not religion. Christianity has nothing to do with the European Union at all, even a donkey can understand that, and you want a union of muslim countries just based on islam – do yo live in a cave??! 50% of Australians are atheists is relevant, just to show you that religion is not important as much as your country. I do apologise though that I forgot that you are from iran the sandal country and I DO NOW understand why you place so much importance on religion than your Wasteland.

          A lot of Gay people that I know, who are on the receiving end think that their asshole is god due to the worship and pounding that it receives from the dominant partner. Once again judging from your reaction, you do sound like a pillow biter.

          I will definitely stay down here! Why would I go back to a country full of idiots like you. The only time I would go to Lebanon is when every Lebanese puts their country first like I do, and not their religion.

          I don’t know where you got that I want the Americans and Europeans to side with Lebanon, but, once again I am talking to a Piece Of $Z1t who thinks that he knows everthing!

          Lebanese nationalism is something that neither you or your grandmother can understand. Lebanon is older than any dwelling cave that your great great great great great grandmother crawled out from in that wasteland that you call iran. Once again, get an education and you will know why we love our country more than you love your religion ya 5ara.

          Finally, iran will go down, and it will go down like a sack of shit. There is no place for second best, let alone 17th and 25th. Stick those numbers where the sun don’t shine, they mean nothing. A wasteland is a wasteland, even if its number one, its still a wasteland!

      5. nagy_michael2 Avatar
        nagy_michael2

        It seems your president is breaking the winds in Iran by calling on the minority who are owning the 90% of the wealth in iran to spread it around. But those so called religious scumbags do not wish to spread the wealth around and want to keep it for themselves. The way I see it if the west and israel didn’t destroy Iran war machine, the people will revolt against your economic oppressions. I predict Iran regime give it max 10 years to be realistic will fall and the people will take what is rightfully theirs. You and Nassrallah will be crying because you will not have money from these low life mullahs. Oh wait nassrallah gangs are selling bad meat, bad medicine, drugs and pirating CD and God knows ever scam on earth in order to support their so called resistance.. so maybe they’re smart thinking ahead just in case..

        1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          yeah exactly lets be realistic. you give the current iraniangel regime 10 years.. still keeping it realistic i give lebanon 10 years and TEN minutes at top… but since the new iranian regime will be an ally of israHELL lebanon will be leveled to the ground in a much shorter period of time… probably only in 5 minutes… tick-tock tick-tock tick-tock.. and just for the record this isnt a song of kesha. then you will find yourself crying your eyes out and not me.. in fact i totally agree that iran would be better off without this islamic dictatorship. the question is whether lebanon would be better off without the iranian regime or not… enjoy your 10 years and 5 minutes to death

    2. FreetheME Avatar
      FreetheME

      WOW, Nostradamus has been resurrected. The predictions are getting better and better. The scary thing is your properly believe the crap you wrote.

    3. AntiFSA Avatar

      Still waiting for this end you spoke off so long ago. Oh, wait a minute, could you have meant to say two to three years maybe.

  5. When men live in ¨a constant fear ¨,they become inhuman ,lose reason and commit atrocities!!!

  6. When men live in ¨a constant fear ¨,they become inhuman ,lose reason and commit atrocities!!!

  7. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
    Mahdi Kenaani

    @hbarca:disqus  im definitely an Ian.. but not an indIAN, a columbIAN nor any other kind of Ian but an IRAN-IAN! now i would like to know what kind of key you are: a monkey? a donkey? or a yankee? oh my mistake you are an arab jarab… ps. im not trying to have a go at ya.. im just joking… thats what frenemies do, remember?

    1. OK OK … Now really are you an Iranian? My best friends in the U.S. are Iranians. We party together and laugh together. One dude used to do Azan from my window to annoy my neighbors when we were roommates in college… They are fun to be with. Most are dentists and good ones I must add.
      Now if and ONLY IF you take all your clothes off, totally naked from a balcony or roof where people can see you and hear you and then shout Hannibal is an Arab ONLY THEN I may consider it… Until then I remain a European Lebanese. 😛

      1. FreetheME Avatar

        Well you must be the only European Lebanese in world Hannibal. Should contact genius book of records. Sure they have a spot for you. Lol
        On a serious note. Happy new year to all, Even the ones I heavily disagree with (which includes you Hannibal lol). Hope the New year brings all of you and your families love and prosperity.

        1. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          I second that,Free. Hannibal is the only ” European Lebanese” I have ever encountered.Now we can say we have them all. lol
          Happy New year to you and yours ,and hopefully everyone comes back with a more friendly attitude toward each other.Happiness and peace to all.

        2. Happy New Year FreetheME… You are wrong though about me being the only Lebanese European you know because they are all over the Middle East… Take the family name Frangieh for instance, it comes from the Franj or Franks, the first wave of crusaders. Yet he is a strong ally of Hezbollah. It is really rather simple… After their defeat, the crusaders had two options… Either leave or stay under Moslem rule. The rich in general, i.e. those who had properties in Europe went back home… The poor married locally and stayed. It is said that Salahudiin was a gentle, kind and a fair man. He let the Christian community be, which thrived during the crusade rule and thrived even more after the Crusader defeat. The remainder of the crusade armies “dissolved” into the local populace in Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria. Many adopted different religions according to where they resided. That is why you find them genetically dispersed amongst all sects at a 30% ratio. That is a scientific finding backed by genetic studies and there is no question nor doubt about it.
          That being said, you will find our Lebanese DNA to reflect Greek (Fellas family), Roman (Antipa family), Byzantine (Domeny, Gregory), Crusaders (Franjieh, Salibi), Ottoman (Shehab)… If you understand our history you understand this simple truth. Believe me when I opened my DNA report I was praying that my genes were of a Canaanite origin because I love the Phoenician / Punic history (Therefore my name Hannibal 😉 ) but it was of European descent and I accept it as my ancestors have dwelled the land since the 11th century and adopted the Maronite sect since they lived amongst the Maronites. 
          Zalloua and Spencer found out that the distribution of genetic markers at first appeared virtually indistinguishable across the Christian, Druze, and Muslim populations of Lebanon. But a closer look at the Y chromosomes of 926 Lebanese men sampled in the study revealed something intriguing. They noticed some interesting lineages in the dataset. Among Lebanese Christians, in particular, they found higher frequency of a genetic marker—R1b (To which I belong)—that we typically see only in Western Europe. They also found Arab Maronites and Phoenician J2 haplotype Maronite. On the other hand maternal X chromosome shows an equal distribution of European, Canaanite, Arab and other haplotypes (minor). My X chromosome revealed a Phoenician/Canaanite lineage. My friend who is a Shia has a European mitochondrial DNA whereas her Dad’s Y chromosome shows an Arab J1 haplotype.Let me ponder a little about your sect here… Shia Islam have faced persecution many times on a big scale. In 1514 the Ottomans ordered the massacre of 40,000 Anatolian Shia living side by side with Sunnis and Christians. The Sultan Salim al awwal said that the killing of one Shiite had as much otherworldly reward as killing 70 Christians. In 1801 the Al Saud armies attacked and sacked Karbala. Therefore you see migration of refugees into Lebanon of this sect in three waves the first being during the mamluks rules. They also intermarried with the local population which already had European, Canaanite and Arab gene pool. Add to this the Armenians and others and you start getting the picture. Saying we are Arabs is unfair and untrue… Saying we are NOT Arab says the same…What does it tell us? We are Lebanese first lest we decide to unfairly label others as we wish. Our unity must be in our history and culture… Not in the religion (we have seen this is impossible to achieve) and not in hiding behind our finger and ignoring the history of the Middle East. Happy New Year 2013 to all… Friends, Enemies and Frenemies…
          Read this link:
          http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/03/080328-crusaders-dna.html

      2. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
        Mahdi Kenaani

        yup im an iraniAngel and im proud of it. dont you believe me? i remember you responding to one of my first comments ever on this site, by accusing me of being a persian. i replied that i am not so maybe thats why you dont believe me now..

        i am not supprised at all that they are dentists. haha… the iranian-american community is the best educated diaspora-community in the states. just a shame they cant use their education in iran and in that way help developing our country.
        iranian parents (and my parents are no exception) keep telling their kids to either study for a medical or an engineer degree. poor children….

      3. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Hannibal, I’d recognize you and the “European Lebanese” as a community as long as you don’t make it a sect,and demand your right of representation in the already  congested sectarian system. lol

    2. Constantin7 Avatar
      Constantin7

      Mahdi,

      If you are Iranian and hate so much the Arabs, what are you doing on a Lebanese (Arab) site ? I am sure there are plenty of Iranian sites that you could use your communication talents on. By the way, I thought you were Lebanese because your nick is very misleading (Kenaani), you should have called yourself Irani rather than Kenaani.

      1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
        Mahdi Kenaani

        oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh so you think im talented? thats so sweet thank you. 
        You guys have to make up your minds whether lebanon is an arab state or not. if the answer is no, then im not breaking the law… and just for the record i dont hate the arab ethnicity but rather the way arabs behave. having spent approx. 10 months on this site this should be no secret to anyone. 
        regarding my nick you should keep in mind that im probably the only one who uses his right name and if you find it misleading then im not to blame but i will comply with your request and change my nick in the upcoming days… how does the nick IraniAngel sound to you? a combination of “iranian” and “angel”..

        1. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          Whether some people admit it or not Lebanon is an Arab country and the Lebanese Christians are the most ethnically Arabs (except for the Armenians) with their dark skin and dark hair. This said Canaanites and Phoenicians are also semites and the origins of the Lebanese and the people of the Levant. On the other hand the other Muslim groups in Lebanon a lot of them are white, blond, blue or green eyed (as many Syrians also are) and they may have European DNA, as I suspect they are the result of all the Crusades invaders on their way to Jerusalem in the middle ages. I used to have friends in the University who were Shiaa Muslims, who were blond, blue eyed, if you see them you would mistake them for Swedish or German, but they were Shiaa from South Lebanon and staunch defenders of hizbullah. Finally, yes if you change your nick to Iranian Angel you won’t mislead others. 

      2. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        constantine7, Happy New Year.
        You should have said: Except for the Armenians and Hannibal,the European,lol. Now, Before He comes swinging,I have my helmet and bullet proof vest on.lol
        On a serious note, Many Muslims who are light skinned  with blond hair and blue eyes are  a result of the intermarriages between the locals and the Turks, Albanians,and Yugoslavians during the ottoman empire. The Albanian marks are all over Egypt too. In fact , Mohammad Ali Basha,the ruler of Egypt and the entire royal family of Egypt were originally Albanians. Thousands and thousands of Albanian families stayed after  WW1 and the collapse of the Ottoman empire.Also, Mecca was a meeting place,and a trading point  for many people before and after Islam.During the “Abbassyeien” period, Persians,and Chechnyians ,and other people from the “sistan” region came to Arabia,and stayed,and eventually their genes were spread all over. A blond girl would have had people lining up for her back then,lol
        Between the crusader, Turks, Persians,and everyone else, We’re a mud.

        1. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          Happy New Year Prophetttt,

          Indeed we are a mud, being at the cross roads between three continents and on the way of many who wanted to reach Jerusalem. I have been few times in Syria and encountered Befouins living in tents, most of their children who were playing outside were blond or red headed. In Syria, this phenomenon is flagrant, if you go Damascus and watch the people you would be amazed of their fair skin and their colored eyes.

          In any case, all the best to you and your family in 2013, actually I also send my best wishes to all the YaLibnan team and the contributors on this site (whether I agree with their political/religious views or not). The Yalibnan team and this medium allowed us to discuss and exchange views in a way that we could have never been able to or that we would not dare to in a face to face situation. We should continue learning from each other and improve our civilized communication skills.

          I give you a brotherly/virtual/intentional/spiritual hug Prophetttt, can you feel it….?!  🙂

    3. a loubnani…

      1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
        Mahdi Kenaani

        does that mean that you are not a key? ohh man

  8. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
    Mahdi Kenaani

    @hbarca:disqus  im definitely an Ian.. but not an indIAN, a columbIAN nor any other kind of Ian but an IRAN-IAN! now i would like to know what kind of key you are: a monkey? a donkey? or a yankee? ps. im not trying to have a go at ya.. im just joking…

    1. OK OK … Now really are you an Iranian? My best friends in the U.S. are Iranians. We party together and laugh together. One dude used to do Azan from my window to annoy my neighbors when we were roommates in college… They are fun to be with. Most are dentists and good ones I must add.
      Now if and ONLY IF you take all your clothes off, totally naked from a balcony or roof where people can see you and hear you and then shout Hannibal is an Arab ONLY THEN I may consider it… Until then I remain a European Lebanese. 😛

      1. FreetheME Avatar

        Well you must be the only European Lebanese in world Hannibal. Should contact genius book of records. Sure they have a spot for you. Lol
        On a serious note. Happy new year to all, Even the ones I heavily disagree with (which includes you Hannibal lol). Hope the New year brings all of you and your families love and prosperity.

        1. Prophettttt Avatar
          Prophettttt

          I second that,Free. Hannibal is the only ” European Lebanese” I have ever encountered.Now we can say we have them all. lol
          Happy New year to you and yours ,and hopefully everyone comes back with a more friendly attitude toward each other.Happiness and peace to all.

        2. Happy New Year FreetheME… You are wrong though about me being the only Lebanese European you know because they are all over the Middle East… Take the family name Frangieh for instance, it comes from the Franj or Franks, the first wave of crusaders. Yet he is a strong ally of Hezbollah. It is really rather simple… After their defeat, the crusaders had two options… Either leave or stay under Moslem rule. The rich in general, i.e. those who had properties in Europe went back home… The poor married locally and stayed. It is said that Salahudiin was a gentle, kind and a fair man. He let the Christian community be, which thrived during the crusade rule and thrived even more after the Crusader defeat. The remainder of the crusade armies “dissolved” into the local populace in Palestine, Lebanon, and Syria. Many adopted different religions according to where they resided. That is why you find them genetically dispersed amongst all sects at a 30% ratio. That is a scientific finding backed by genetic studies and there is no question nor doubt about it.
          That being said, you will find our Lebanese DNA to reflect Greek (Fellas family), Roman (Antipa family), Byzantine (Domeny, Gregory), Crusaders (Franjieh), Ottoman (Shehab)… If you understand our history you understand this simple truth. Believe me when I opened my DNA report I was praying that my genes were of a Canaanite origin because I love the Phoenician / Punic history (Therefore my name Hannibal 😉 ) but it was of European descent and I accept it as my ancestors have dwelled the land since the 11th century and adopted the Maronite sect since they lived amongst the Maronites. 
          Zalloua and Spencer found out that the distribution of genetic markers at first appeared virtually indistinguishable across the Christian, Druze, and Muslim populations of Lebanon. But a closer look at the Y chromosomes of 926 Lebanese men sampled in the study revealed something intriguing. They noticed some interesting lineages in the dataset. Among Lebanese Christians, in particular, they found higher frequency of a genetic marker—R1b (To which I belong)—that we typically see only in Western Europe. They also found Arab Maronites and Phoenician J2 haplotype Maronite. On the other hand maternal X chromosome shows an equal distribution of European, Canaanite, Arab and other haplotypes (minor). My X chromosome revealed a Phoenician/Canaanite lineage. My friend who is a Shia has a European mitochondrial DNA whereas her Dad’s Y chromosome shows an Arab J1 haplotype.Let me ponder a little about your sect here… Shia Islam have faced persecution many times on a big scale. In 1514 the Ottomans ordered the massacre of 40,000 Anatolian Shia living side by side with Sunnis and Christians. The Sultan Salim al awwal said that the killing of one Shiite had as much otherworldly reward as killing 70 Christians. In 1801 the Al Saud armies attacked and sacked Karbala. Therefore you see migration of refugees into Lebanon of this sect in three waves the first being during the mamluks rules. They also intermarried with the local population which already had European, Canaanite and Arab gene pool. Add to this the Armenians and others and you start getting the picture. Saying we are Arabs is unfair and untrue… Saying we are NOT Arab says the same…What does it tell us? We are Lebanese first lest we decide to unfairly label others as we wish. Our unity must be in our history and culture… Not in the religion (we have seen this is impossible to achieve) and not in hiding behind our finger and ignoring the history of the Middle East.happy New Year 2013 to all… Friends, Enemies and Frenemies…

      2. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
        Mahdi Kenaani

        yup im an iraniAngel and im proud of it. dont you believe me? i remember you responding to one of my first comments ever on this site, by accusing me of being a persian. i replied that i am not so maybe thats why you dont believe me now..

        i am not supprised at all that they are dentists. haha… the american-iranian community is the best educated diaspora-community in the states. 
        iranian parents (and my parents are no exception) keep telling their kids to either study for a medical or an engineer degree. poor children….

      3. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        Hannibal, I’d recognize you and the “European Lebanese” as a community as long as you don’t make it a sect,and demand your right of representation in the already  congested sectarian system. lol

    2. Constantin7 Avatar
      Constantin7

      Mahdi,

      If you are Iranian and hate so much the Arabs, what are you doing on a Lebanese (Arab) site ? I am sure there are plenty of Iranian sites that you could use your communication talents on. By the way, I thought you were Lebanese because your nick is very misleading (Kenaani), you should have called yourself Irani rather than Kenaani.

      1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
        Mahdi Kenaani

        oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh so you think im talented? thats so sweet thank you. 
        You guys have to make up your minds whether lebanon is an arab state or not. if the answer is no, then im not breaking the law… and just for the record i dont hate the arab ethnicity but rather the way arabs behave. having spent approx. 10 months on this site this should be no secret to anyone. 
        regarding my nick you should keep in mind that im probably the only who uses his right name and if you find it misleading then im not to blame but i will comply your request and change my nick in the upcoming days… what do think about the nick IraniAngel?

        1. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          Whether some people admit it or not Lebanon is an Arab country and the Lebanese Christians are the most ethnically Arabs (except for the Armenians) with their dark skin and dark hair. This said Canaanites and Phoenicians are also semites and the origins of the Lebanese and the people of the Levant. On the other hand the other Muslim groups in Lebanon a lot of them are white, blond, blue or green eyed (as many Syrians also are) and they may have European DNA, as I suspect they are the result of all the Crusades invaders on their way to Jerusalem in the middle ages. I used to have friends in the University who were Shiaa Muslims, who were blond, blue eyed, if you see them you would mistake them for Swedish or German, but they were Shiaa from South Lebanon and staunch defenders of hizbullah. Finally, yes if you change your nick to Iranian Angel you won’t mislead others. 

      2. Prophettttt Avatar
        Prophettttt

        constantine7, Happy New Year.
        You should have said: Except for the Armenians and Hannibal,the European,lol. Now, Before He comes swinging,I have my helmet and bullet proof vest on.lol
        On a serious note, Many Muslims who are light skinned  with blond hair and blue eyes are  a result of the intermarriages between the locals and the Turks, Albanians,and Yugoslavians during the ottoman empire. The Albanian marks are all over Egypt too. In fact , Mohammad Ali Basha,the ruler of Egypt and the entire royal family of Egypt were originally Albanians. Thousands and thousands of Albanian families stayed after  WW1 and the collapse of the Ottoman empire.Also, Mecca was a meeting place,and a trading point  for many people before and after Islam.During the “Abbassyeien” period, Persians,and Chechnyians ,and other people from the “sistan” region came to Arabia,and stayed,and eventually their genes were spread all over. A blond girl would have had people lining up for her back then,lol
        Between the crusader, Turks, Persians,and everyone else, We’re a mud.

        1. Constantin7 Avatar
          Constantin7

          Happy New Year Prophetttt,

          Indeed we are a mud, being at the cross roads between three continents and on the way of many who wanted to reach Jerusalem. I have been few times in Syria and encountered Befouins living in tents, most of their children who were playing outside were blond or red headed. In Syria, this phenomenon is flagrant, if you go Damascus and watch the people you would be amazed of their fair skin and their colored eyes.

          In any case, all the best to you and your family in 2013, actually I also send my best wishes to all the YaLibnan team and the contributors on this site (whether I agree with their political/religious views or not). The Yalibnan team and this medium allowed us to discuss and exchange views in a way that we could have never been able to or that we would not dare to in a face to face situation. We should continue learning from each other and improve our civilized communication skills.

          I give you a brotherly/virtual/intentional/spiritual hug Prophetttt, can you feel it….?!  🙂

    3. a loubnani…

      1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
        Mahdi Kenaani

        does that mean that you are not a key? ohh man

  9. Mr Mehd and Hannibal,Under the caliphate Christians and Jews and muslims enjoyed relative security. The Quran says muslims are one body and should perform as one body. Since the caliphate was dismantled, Muslims have been living in sin and it’s consequences. We should work for the re establishment of he calliphate even before the Mahdi arrives, as the umma needs to be in the right state to be led. When Shia learn to respect their Sunni brothers, and vice versa, we might start making progress. Really there is no Shia or Sunni, Allah has given us a name and that is Al Muslimun or Muslims. The hatred and slandering of Omar and Abu bakr is what is dividing Muslims. Remember that the Quran states that whoever Fought with the prophet at Badr was forgiven his sins and guaranteed paradise. Omar and Abu bakr are therefore guaranteed paradise. You cannot slander them. And the Quran is the last word.

    1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
      Mahdi Kenaani

      so according to you the muslim world with 90 % sunnis is fucked up because the last 10% shia slander omar? 

      1. Im sorry you feel that way, but the forces of evil are dividing muslims. I came to you with an olive branch and guidance from the Quran. You come to me with poisonous remarks to trigger an endless us and them debate and Reopen old wounds. Would you rather befriend allies of the enemy or focus on our common ground which is the Quran , sunnat il rasul and ahly bayt . I think you should reconsider your posture. Tell me why we should not work towards establishing a khilafah . Is it not a worthy effort. Or is it that your right and everyone else is wrong. No one is 100 per cent right, but there s a lot of common ground.

        1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          my dear brother in islam… of course i would love to see all muslims to befirend and this is actually what i suggested somewhere in this thread. The only way the mid east can get out of this shit hole is to get over the never ending discussion about ali and abu-bakr and start focusing on common interests

    2. FreetheME Avatar
      FreetheME

      What you fail to mention which is a big contributing factor as to why Shia and Sunni’s have been at each others throats for many years is how the majority of the Sunni world denounce the Prophets family (PBUH). Do you even know who the Prophets real family was. According to many Sunni Scholars the prophets family were Abu bakr. Omar and Osman. This has been extracted through your fake Hadith. Much of what you believe in. (and I’m generalising) has not been taken from the Quran it self rather from fake books written by fake Sheiks with a hidden agenda. 
       

  10. Mr Mehd and Hannibal,Under the caliphate Christians and Jews and muslims enjoyed relative security. The Quran says muslims are one body and should perform as one body. Since the caliphate was dismantled, Muslims have been living in sin and it’s consequences. We should work for the re establishment of he calliphate even before the Mahdi arrives, as the umma needs to be in the right state to be led. When Shia learn to respect their Sunni brothers, and vice versa, we might start making progress. Really there is no Shia or Sunni, Allah has given us a name and that is Al Muslimun or Muslims. The hatred and slandering of Omar and Abu bakr is what is dividing Muslims. Remember that the Quran states that whoever Fought with the prophet at Badr was forgiven his sins and guaranteed paradise. Omar and Abu bakr are therefore guaranteed paradise. You cannot slander them. And the Quran is the last word.

    1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
      Mahdi Kenaani

      so according to you the muslim world with 90 % sunnis is fucked up because the last 10% shia slander omar? 

      1. Im sorry you feel that way, but the forces of evil are dividing muslims. I came to you with an olive branch and guidance from the Quran. You come to me with poisonous remarks to trigger an endless us and them debate and Reopen old wounds. Would you rather befriend allies of the enemy or focus on our common ground which is the Quran , sunnat il rasul and ahly bayt . I think you should reconsider your posture. Tell me why we should not work towards establishing a khilafah . Is it not a worthy effort. Or is it that your right and everyone else is wrong. No one is 100 per cent right, but there s a lot of common ground.

        1. Mahdi Kenaani Avatar
          Mahdi Kenaani

          my dear brother in islam… of course i would love to see all muslims to befirend and this is actually what i suggested somewhere in this thread. The only way the mid east can get out of this shit hole is to get over the never ending discussion about ali and abu-akr and start focusing on common interests

    2. FreetheME Avatar
      FreetheME

      What you fail to mention which is a big contributing factor as to why Shia and Sunni’s have been at each others throats for many years is how the majority of the Sunni world denounce the Prophets family (PBUH). Do you even know who the Prophets real family was. According to many Sunni Scholars the prophets family were Abu bakr. Omar and Osman. This has been extracted through your fake Hadith. Much of what you believe in. (and I’m generalising) has not been taken from the Quran it self rather from fake books written by fake Sheiks with a hidden agenda. 
       

  11. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    Constantin7, One can’t give a hug without getting one back,especially when it comes from  brotherly heart .lol 
    The best to you and your loved ones too.

  12. Prophettttt Avatar
    Prophettttt

    Constantin7, One can’t give a hug without getting one back,especially when it comes from  brotherly heart .lol 
    The best to you and your loved ones too.

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